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Posted by ruddratt on Monday, March 21, 2011 10:58 AM

No prob Doogs. I still have two more in the wings for this GB. Gonna get to work on the SE.5 for the WWI GB, and I'll be jumping back in here after that for the 1/72 Jug.

Rich, mighty fine work on that sub! Yes Always loved those cutaways!

Mike

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Posted by DoogsATX on Monday, March 21, 2011 9:54 AM

ruddratt - WOW. Simply stunning! I'll get it added to the front page as soon as I can!

Richard - the u-boat's looking nice! I'm not all that big into ships, but I love the cutaway view...might have to tackle one of those one of these days!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

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Posted by ruddratt on Monday, March 21, 2011 9:44 AM

Many thanks for the kind words fellas! They are sure appreciated!

jbrady, for the turnbuckles, I went with .05mm brass tubing cut in lengths of 1/8". Monofilament thread, and individual strands of computer wire make up the loops at the ends, and the long runs are .003" grey EZLine.

Howard, been to Rhinebeck many times when I was younger. Yep, it's awesome! (I'm a transplanted NY'er living in BC. Wink ).

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by daddy1 on Sunday, March 20, 2011 10:28 PM

Rudratt- I must also give a big YesCool,to the Phalz. Even though my main focus is WWII and 'Nam era warbirds, I do have a soft spot for the WWI canvas and wire birds. Heck!, that's where aerial combat all got started , where the basics tactics, techniques  and strategies  in use today were founded. Much by the Germans too. The Immelman turn , the finger four formation, and the list goes on.

 If anyone out there has the opportunity to visit the Rhinebeck Aerodrome in New York state , I highly recommend it . A beautiful setting in the Hudson River valley for a backdrop of wonderful aircraft winging by.  That is truly seat of the pants flying. 

BTW, I have been tempted to take the plunge into some of those Wingnut Wings kits. They do look like a lot of fun. I've heard much great things about them. 

 Kermit- That's another genre I've been tempted by. Subs and flat tops. One because ,I like planes. The other because I find them very interesting. Especially some of the big 1/72 scale Gato class and U-boat kits.

Looking good   there kermyToast.

Howard

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:47 PM

Hey guys, the stangs going back in the box for a while. Not quite sure im up to it. So can someone change me to TBA. Im going to do something just not sure what.

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Posted by kermit on Sunday, March 20, 2011 3:42 PM

I simply adore that Pfalz... Makes you think how they managed fighting it out in the skies back then in glorified lawnmower engines with wings...Smile I agree that your build makes me think of that Dr1 i wanna do one day... Wingnut wings it is.

Anyways... I just assembled the hull and dryfitted the tower for the picture:

richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by pepper kay on Sunday, March 20, 2011 12:29 PM

Hi All:

Everything loks great ... suberb work by one and all ...

I've been sorta-kinda lurking of late, fighting pneumonia again, but am well enough to start adding some WIP photos ... tomorrow for sure ...

Thanks,

pepper

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Posted by jbrady on Sunday, March 20, 2011 8:05 AM

Rudratt: WWI planes ait my thing... almost convinced me to take the plunge. Great work. What did you finally decide on for the turnbuckles?

   

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Posted by ruddratt on Sunday, March 20, 2011 4:56 AM

Howard, I have to agree, that P-38 is just plain awesome!

Richard, that is some incredible detail you're packing into that sub, and the weathering will really make it pop!

 

OK fellas, I'm calling this one done. Gotta say I loved every minute of this build. Even if WWI birds ain't your thing, these WnW kits are worth it just for the sheer pleasure. Anyway, hope you enjoy the pics (and thanks to Doogs for hosting what is so far a great GB!).

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by kermit on Sunday, March 20, 2011 3:19 AM

Oddmanrush,

That is some serious waterdamage weathering skill there. Ab-so-lute-ly love it!!Bow Down Best stuff i've seen since terry's rustYes

Daddy1,

Stunning paintjob and subsequent fading. I love those faded streaks like that!YesYes

Just dropped by to announce completion of the interior of my type XXI sub. It took ages and painting and decalling all that detail was alot of work. The weathering part can now be started at leastWink. I am nowhere near the skill level some people have shown on here but i will give it my best trySmile

It looks rather bent like a banana in the picture but the whole assembly has quite some weight and is pretty flexibleWink But anyways,... I love how it turned out and everything is there from little beds, galley, engines, torpedoes etc. etc.

Thinking about how to attack the masking once this is all installed and ready for exterior paint i am thinking covering it with a sheet of damp kitchen towel and securing it with tape... Will have to see i guess.

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, March 19, 2011 8:03 PM

Just checking in, still no new updates from here.

Terry.

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Posted by DoogsATX on Saturday, March 19, 2011 9:18 AM

Howard - that's Lightning's looking aces, man! 

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

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Posted by daddy1 on Saturday, March 19, 2011 7:18 AM

 Beginning  the weathering process on my Lightning.

 I started by grinding some black pastel into a powder , dipping a brush into water, then into the black powder to paint on as a thin wash. As I worked over the model, I'd wiped off the excess in the direction of airflow with a paper towel . The first two pics show the results of this wash.

 

 

 Now for some dry pastels to give the paint a faded look. Reference pics don't show markings such as the Star and Bar with this effect , so I'm assuming they were applied after shipping or were a more durable paint. I'll apply and weather them after giving this bird a good fade. 

I would pick up a little of the selected colors with a fine tip eye shadow brush and apply to the center of panels and then using a short bristled ,broad tip eyeshadow brush work in the chalky powder toward the outer edges of the panels. The white pastel really gave the OD a good faded appearance. 

 Have to handle with care at this phase . The skin oils will surely leave fingerprints . I use a paper towel to hold the model.

 

I want to create the appearance of where the shipping tape had been removed and cleaned off . Decided to use a wash for what looks like a solvent was used to scrub off tape residue along the panel lines. 

The hardest part of this step was choosing the right colors for a very thin wash along the panel lines. Just brush on and let dry. Neatness at this step isn't required, sure doesn't look like it was when they cleaned up the aircraft after shipping.  

 

 

  Next up is to recreate the discoloring from where the sealing tape itself was applied . Then I'll give it a shot of Future in prep for the decals. 

 After the decals are on and sealed up, I'll applied some light filtering and a final thin wash of black/brown to bring it all together.

 Howard

 

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Posted by terry35 on Thursday, March 17, 2011 6:19 PM

Due to an other GB, I have kinda stalled for a week or two, now I'm no use at planning so it could be longer, but I do need to make corrections to my LWS.

Jon the 190 is loking great really like the plane being taken from the water you have your effect spot on.

Howard the P38m is really coming to life now.

 

Terry.

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:16 AM

For 1/48, you might be able to sleeve the end of a line with some of that micro tubing. The midge size is 1/64", which works out to about 3/4" in 1/48. A touch big, maybe, but not ridiculously so.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

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Posted by Heavens Eagle on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 11:27 PM

Thinking along the lines of scale, even a dab of super glue might be too thick and hard to control.  My thoughts on turnbuckles and the bindings it might be better to use some somewhat thick paint and just put a thick coating on the flying wire where you want the turnbuckle to be.  If the first coat isn't thick enough it is easy to add a little more with another layer of paint.  After all a 3 inch long turnbuckle in 1/48th scale comes out to 1/16th of an inch long.

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Posted by daddy1 on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 10:05 PM

ruddratt

Julez, to be honest, I've yet to include turnbuckles in any of my 1/48 builds. The ones I'm working with in 1/32 are really quite tiny - couldn't even imagine working with anything smaller. There might be away to create the illusion of buckles. Let me think on that a bit and get back to ya.

 I haven't really studied any references on the turnbuckles, but one idea off the top Idea, would a tiny dab of super glue on the rigging make for a fair representation ? 

 BTW- Thanks for the info on the WWI GB .  Very tempting . Right now trying to get back on track with my current projects. I've got the Lightning moving along pretty well right now . Been working some pastels into the paint to get a well faded look ( pics in a day or two). 

 There's also a parts box Chevell dirt track stock car I thought of throwing into this GB, but may put that back on the shelf for now. Also need to get an F6F-3 going again for another GB. Plus I've signed up a pair of Williams Bro.s Golden age racers for  another GB.  All depends on which way the modeling winds blow. These group builds can be like buying model kits . Our stashes seem to grow faster than we can build them. Same with GBs, it's easy to get into more than one can keep up with sometimes. 

 Howard

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Posted by ruddratt on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:30 PM

Julez, to be honest, I've yet to include turnbuckles in any of my 1/48 builds. The ones I'm working with in 1/32 are really quite tiny - couldn't even imagine working with anything smaller. There might be away to create the illusion of buckles. Let me think on that a bit and get back to ya.

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by Julez72 on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 8:22 AM

Oddman, Great work, i really like what you have done with the 190 it looks superbYesYes

Howard,  i'll be watching your Dr1 build closely as well, I have the Eduard Dr1 profipac kit in 48 scale coming up shortly...I've planned on doing 2 of them, one for each of the Richtofens, i have to admit that i'm having a hard time coming to terms with the red one, it seems immature considering i used to build the old 1/72 revell Dr1's as a kid and have dogfights in the backyard..."the Baron Vs the Camel"

Mike, Doogs.. How would you guys approsch turnbuckles in 1/48 sale??? i've recently aqquired Eduards Sopwith Triplane...

 

 

 

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:54 PM

Howard, I really like what you've got planned for the Dr.I, especially after seeing your current works. Yes

....and (I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds here by mentioning another GB), but there's a WWI GB going on until the end of this year. If you plan on building your Dr.I before New Years, you might want to check it out and join in.

Mike

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Posted by daddy1 on Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:32 PM

oddmanrush- Jon, that looks awsomeYes. Love it . Glad to see you hanging in with the 190. 

I remember seeing a show on one of the history networks( may have been Nat Geo) about the recovery of this bird. Interesting to see it done in scale. 

ruddrat & Doogs- Your discussion about WWI aircraft makes me think of the Revell reissue of the Fokker Dr1 in 1/28 scale. Added to my stash last August. Close enough in scale to look really cool displayed with my model vintage street rods. Wish Revell would reissue the Spad and Camel in that scale . The kits are dated ,but detailed enough to look good OOB and great starting points for super detailing.

 While its not a rigging nightmare , when I get around to building it , I plan on adding the interior frame work and rigging plus I'll attempt to paint the inside to show the staining of the exterior paint on the linen fabric. A project still in the future. Still haven't figured out whose Tripe it'll be, but probably not the Red Baron , too many of those around. Leaning towards Lothar Richthofen or Werner Voss , maybe Ernst Kessler's bird from the Waldo Pepper flick .  Also not sure when I'll build it , but will definitely share here in the forums.   

 Howard

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Posted by ruddratt on Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:17 PM

DoogsATX

ruddratt - 64...my eyes hurt just thinking about it! And I saw that you're tackling the Hisso next? Talk about a rigging monster! If I follow up the Pup with anything, it's going to be a Junkers J.1 I think...

Doogs, did a test run last night to get rough idea how long it would take to make 'em all  -  cut, cleaned up both ends, and re-opened the holes on 16 of 'em in about 45 minutes. Should take me about 2+ hours to do the rest.

...and I figured I'd give myself a break by choosing the Hisso - heck, it's easier than rigging a DH-2 (but not by much). Wink

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by oddmanrush on Tuesday, March 15, 2011 8:39 PM

Well apparently I lied when I said I was putting the 190 aside for now. I did some extra work on it last night and am quite pleased with it.

I applied the Balkan cross and Swastika by hand as I don't have decals for them and this wasn't really worth purchasing new ones. Then I gave it several layers of washes, different colors of each...a burnt umber, a lighter brown, and white. In that order actually. Once that set I gave her a once over with the dry brush.

I didn't apply the crosses to the wings as I intend to have them some what covered with soil, leaves, moss, foliage, etc once its down on the base.

Here it is:

Not a huge fan of my photography but I'll deal with it.

Jon

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:04 AM

the Spitfire was a second hand kit that was missing decals and the canopy, but it gave me a chance to use up some of my spare stuff I have lying around. It will have American markings with full invasion stripes.

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:16 AM

Terry - what can I say but Indifferent - your technique is simply stunning!

Howard - the P-38's looking great! Nice recovery from that sneak attack by the forces of gravity! 

Jon - I think the sunken 190 would be an awesome challenge! I'm contemplating doing something similar with that F4U birdcage they pulled out of Lake Michigan not too long ago.

On the subject of wrecks (and Corsairs) this would be a fun project to tackle!

ruddratt - 64...my eyes hurt just thinking about it! And I saw that you're tackling the Hisso next? Talk about a rigging monster! If I follow up the Pup with anything, it's going to be a Junkers J.1 I think...

Owl - got you down for the Mk.IX! Looking forward to it! This going to be straight RAF, or something a bit more exotic?

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:49 AM

hey, Doogs! Ive finally decided on a kit. (It took a while, I know!)  I've decided to beat up Airfix's offering of a Spitfire Mk. IX, in 1/72 scale.

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Posted by Julez72 on Monday, March 14, 2011 11:18 PM

Howard, your P-38 is looking very nice, great save on the nose coneYes

 

 

 

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Posted by daddy1 on Monday, March 14, 2011 10:19 PM

 The pre wash works pretty well , a bit more subtle than pre shading but still accents panels nicely and the wash will also show scratches and other defects like a primer would . I personally still need to refine my skills of top coating without covering up too much pre shade or wash. I see where I should stop, but often still give one more pass with the airbrush. 

 I'll get the lines and other shading back with weathering.

 Speaking of which, I was all set to start the process last night after touching up the camo demarcation lines . Was almost done with the touch up when it slipped out of my hand and hit nose first on the floorBang Head.

 I was lucky it broke along the seam without any chunks of filler breaking away. Made for a simple re glue , clean up, touch up. Just set me back a day. 

 

 

Another sample sheet to check how various washes and pigments are going to look. 

Not a bad recoveryWhistling. The hand brush touch up OD  came out a little darker than the airbrushed OD. A few light passes with 1000 grit  blended fairly well and any variation left will even out with weathering.

 Time to start getting it faded and dirty.

 Howard

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Monday, March 14, 2011 9:56 AM

Howard, the P-38 is progressing nicely! Yes Looking forward to seeing how all those weathering techniques pan out. Never even heard of a pre-wash before.

 

The upper wing for the Pfalz is complete. In the next few days, the fun starts - the way I figure it, there's about 64 more turnbuckles that need to be cut from the brass tubing and then the rigging can start to go in.

Mike

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Posted by oddmanrush on Sunday, March 13, 2011 1:21 PM

Howard, you make a good point there. The crosses and even the swaztika on the tail are still visible and appear to be in good shape. I like your idea of making the picture into a vignette. I could scratch build the straps and such....ugh, now I'm gonna have to think about what I want to do...I think I'll put it aside for now and finish up the Stuka for this GB then return to the 190 when I've made up my mind.

Jon

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