The Official F-4 Phantom II Group Build 2011

Greetings Everyone!

I took today off from work and spent the entire day working on the front console of the cockpit.  It took me quite a few shots with the camera to get some half way decent ones.  Here they are:

In this shot you can see the reflection from the Future that I applied to the dials on the photo etch to give it a glass look (the upper section dials with the black background was done with paint):

Ken

Hi All.

I really need a bit of help.  I have some of those Hasegawa Weapons kits, but they didn't come with any placement or painting guide.  I was wondering if anyone knew of a visual reference which showed each of the different kinds of ordinance, with appropriate markings and paint?  I thought I saw something like that here, but I can't even remember if it was in this thread.  I also posted this in the reference material forumbut that forum doesn't seem to get much use so I thought I better ask here as well.

Thanks.

Rich

I went to look at Hobby search

I clicked on the 1/48 sets and they don't seem to have the instructions sheets posted,,,,,they do for the 1/72 kits I checked on though

http://www.1999.co.jp/search_e.asp?Typ1_c=102&scope=1&scope2=0&itkey=Hasegawa+weapons

just click on the product picture,,,,,and click on the little contents thumbnails,,,,,,,,you'll see how to do the rest of it then

Rex

I have a quick question: In the instructions below, there is this little wedge-shape part that is to be attached to the top of the WSO's canopy. What the heck is it, and how is it painted? Is it a prism, a mirror, a spoiler, a periscope? (LOL)?

It is labeled as "W-11"

Thanks!

JB -- I'm prertty sure it's a rear view mirror, which appeared on some (later?) aircraft.

M/TB379

Thunderbolt379

JB -- I'm prertty sure it's a rear view mirror, which appeared on some (later?) aircraft.

M/TB379

It is.. I think there are actually 2 of them, at about the 10:00 and 2:00 position on the canopy.

it depends on the production block some aircraft have only one rear view mirror at 12 o'clock position and some other have two mirrors at 10&2 o'clock of the canopy bow

Sorry I haven't posted lately, but I just got out of the hospital today.  I was passing blood so I went ot the ER and was admitted.  I went through many test and it was found I had an infection in my colon.  After some strong antibiotics and just about starved to death I was released today.  Every thing is fine now except I am on a soft diet.

Rich, glad you got the ECM pods.  They mound directly to the inboard pylons.  An adapter is needed only if carried in the forward missile wells.

Ken, it may be some time before I get your ECM pod in the mail.  With some of the meds I am on now it will be some time before I can drive.  I'll get it packaged up and maybe my wife can take it to the post office.

The aux air doors were electrical controled hydraulically actuated.  They would be open when ever the gear was down or infligh when an engine bay over pressure occured.  In that case they would only open a crack to dump pressure.  Anytime hydraulic pressure was applied on the ground, if there was a loss of power, the aux air doors would slam closed.  That is why a safety strut was used to keep them open.     

Son Of Medicine Man

Greetings Everyone!

I took today off from work and spent the entire day working on the front console of the cockpit.  It took me quite a few shots with the camera to get some half way decent ones.  Here they are:

 

 

In this shot you can see the reflection from the Future that I applied to the dials on the photo etch to give it a glass look (the upper section dials with the black background was done with paint):

 

Ken

Ken, that is an excellent job.  I wish my hands were steady enough to do that kind of work.

Hey Berny;

I hope you are feeling a bit better. Vanilla rice puddin' for breakfast?

Yeah noticed the insides of those doors were painted red, wouldn't want to be around those slamming closed.

berny13

Sorry I haven't posted lately, but I just got out of the hospital today.  I was passing blood so I went ot the ER and was admitted.  I went through many test and it was found I had an infection in my colon.  After some strong antibiotics and just about starved to death I was released today.  Every thing is fine now except I am on a soft diet.

Rich, glad you got the ECM pods.  They mound directly to the inboard pylons.  An adapter is needed only if carried in the forward missile wells.

Ken, it may be some time before I get your ECM pod in the mail.  With some of the meds I am on now it will be some time before I can drive.  I'll get it packaged up and maybe my wife can take it to the post office.

The aux air doors were electrical controled hydraulically actuated.  They would be open when ever the gear was down or infligh when an engine bay over pressure occured.  In that case they would only open a crack to dump pressure.  Anytime hydraulic pressure was applied on the ground, if there was a loss of power, the aux air doors would slam closed.  That is why a safety strut was used to keep them open.     

Hi Berny!!!

Really glad to hear from you again!  I hope you start feeling better real soon.  No problem on that pod, it will be a little bit before I am ready for it anyway.  When ever you are up to it, no rush at all.

Ken

Ken;

Uhhh....I think I saw some of those dials moving man.....

Berny!  It's good to hear from you.  Soft diets are no fun.  I have an ulcer that bleeds sometimes and all I can eat is the blandest and softest of food.  The man who invents the burrito that doesn't give you heartburn will make a fortune.

Progress on 69-260 is moving along at a leisurely pace.  The body is assembled, i have the Aires cans ready to install after painting.  And I am now prepping her for the first outside painting.  I never put on gear until after primary paint.  Same for stores.  The fitting of the resin intakes came out better than my FGR.2 and so did the cockpit. lol.  It won't be long now before I will be finishing her up.  I am going to try and get some primer on her by the weekend.

Get some rest, enjoy the week and weekend, stop chasing women and stay away from the burritoes. lol

Rich

berny13

Sorry I haven't posted lately, but I just got out of the hospital today.  I was passing blood so I went ot the ER and was admitted.  I went through many test and it was found I had an infection in my colon.  After some strong antibiotics and just about starved to death I was released today.  Every thing is fine now except I am on a soft diet.

Rich, glad you got the ECM pods.  They mound directly to the inboard pylons.  An adapter is needed only if carried in the forward missile wells.

Ken, it may be some time before I get your ECM pod in the mail.  With some of the meds I am on now it will be some time before I can drive.  I'll get it packaged up and maybe my wife can take it to the post office.

The aux air doors were electrical controled hydraulically actuated.  They would be open when ever the gear was down or infligh when an engine bay over pressure occured.  In that case they would only open a crack to dump pressure.  Anytime hydraulic pressure was applied on the ground, if there was a loss of power, the aux air doors would slam closed.  That is why a safety strut was used to keep them open.     

berny13

 

Ken, that is an excellent job.  I wish my hands were steady enough to do that kind of work.

Thank you Berny for the compliment!  It means a lot coming from you because this bird is dedicated to you!

Ken

Bockscar

Ken;

Uhhh....I think I saw some of those dials moving man.....

Thank you Dom for the compliment, I really appreciate it.

Ken

Hi Everyone,

The cockpit tub is officially done as far as paint is concerned.  Here is a picture:

The next phase will be to wait for the paint to dry, mask it off, then cut the base off.  Tomorrow night while I am waiting for the paint to dry I will attend to the seats and get them finished.

Ken

greek spook

it depends on the production block some aircraft have only one rear view mirror at 12 o'clock position and some other have two mirrors at 10&2 o'clock of the canopy bow

Kit instructions on this only call for the one, though three are provided. The other two are marked on the instructions as "Not for use". I haven't looked at the "E", "F", "N", and RF "E" kits in my stash. Wonder how I'm going to simulate a mirror in this scale.....

I have been working bits and pieces on this. All gear and their doors are now installed. As soon as I mount the canopies and their actuators, plus the exhaust cans, the plane itself will be done!

My work has been on those pesky decals that go on the loads from the Hasegawa weapons set. I guess it's never too late for this old dog to learn new tricks. I was trying to get one of those yellow bands on that wrap around the Shrike AGM and it just wasn't behaving. I was using Microset and the decal didn't want to lay down. As soon as I tried to get one end down, the other end popped up. Then I switched to Microsol with disastrous results. The narrow decal shriveled up, the edges curled up and the decal was nothing but a mess! I removed it and tried again. Again the decal didn't want to lay down with just the setting solution as before. Then I thought, maybe if the decal was warmed, it would bend. I used my breath to warm it, (or my breath is just that bad! ) and the thing just curved and lay down with hardly any coaxing from me! Never too late to learn!

A picture:

The yellow bands are there, they just came out as really washed out by my camera. I have to cut the bands into little pieces on the AGM-78. You can just make out that the one side is done, only 3 sides left to go! The AGM-45 gets a band as well between the fins.

By the way, great looking forward panel there, SOMM! Looks like you should play hookey from work more often!

Jim

P.S. I googled some pictures of G's and almost all the examples I found only had the one mirror.

Berny, glad to hear your feeling better. I had a bit of a intestinal infection some weeks ago and it sucked. I wasn't passing blood, but I had a temp of 101 and a pain in my side like I was stuck with a knife. 10 days of some nasty antibiotics and a bland diet for a while made it better. I did decide to cheat at one point and have some Taco Bell. Bad choice that was!

J.

That's a pretty nice looking weasel jimbot keep up the good work.I can't remember if the G models had only one.But i can assure you that E models and especially block 48 and later have two mirrors.These birds fly with the Hellenic Airforce and every day i go for exterior inspection i find two of them in the canopy!!!!

greek spook

That's a pretty nice looking weasel jimbot keep up the good work.I can't remember if the G models had only one.But i can assure you that E models and especially block 48 and later have two mirrors.These birds fly with the Hellenic Airforce and every day i go for exterior inspection i find two of them in the canopy!!!!

Jim;

NoFair teasing like that, canopies on the floor in the background!

Pssssst.....those missiles are backwards......

Looking good Jim.......

Found another one:

jimbot58

greek spook:

it depends on the production block some aircraft have only one rear view mirror at 12 o'clock position and some other have two mirrors at 10&2 o'clock of the canopy bow

 

Kit instructions on this only call for the one, though three are provided. The other two are marked on the instructions as "Not for use". I haven't looked at the "E", "F", "N", and RF "E" kits in my stash. Wonder how I'm going to simulate a mirror in this scale.....

I have been working bits and pieces on this. All gear and their doors are now installed. As soon as I mount the canopies and their actuators, plus the exhaust cans, the plane itself will be done!

My work has been on those pesky decals that go on the loads from the Hasegawa weapons set. I guess it's never too late for this old dog to learn new tricks. I was trying to get one of those yellow bands on that wrap around the Shrike AGM and it just wasn't behaving. I was using Microset and the decal didn't want to lay down. As soon as I tried to get one end down, the other end popped up. Then I switched to Microsol with disastrous results. The narrow decal shriveled up, the edges curled up and the decal was nothing but a mess! I removed it and tried again. Again the decal didn't want to lay down with just the setting solution as before. Then I thought, maybe if the decal was warmed, it would bend. I used my breath to warm it, (or my breath is just that bad! ) and the thing just curved and lay down with hardly any coaxing from me! Never too late to learn!

A picture:

The yellow bands are there, they just came out as really washed out by my camera. I have to cut the bands into little pieces on the AGM-78. You can just make out that the one side is done, only 3 sides left to go! The AGM-45 gets a band as well between the fins.

By the way, great looking forward panel there, SOMM! Looks like you should play hookey from work more often!

Jim

Hi Jim,

Thank you for the complement!  Also, very nice job on the decals and thank you for the tip.  I will remember that when it comes time to put mine on!

Ken

Bockscar

Found another one:

Hi Dom,

Pretty cool looking!

Ken

Son Of Medicine Man

 

Bockscar:

 

Found another one:

 

 

Hi Dom,

Pretty cool looking!

Ken

Thanks Ken;

That's a great painting, I wish I could find a copy of the original to see the whole picture. Love that Eagle...

Bockscar

Son Of Medicine Man:

 

Bockscar:

 

Found another one:

 

 

Hi Dom,

Pretty cool looking!

Ken

 

Thanks Ken;

That's a great painting, I wish I could find a copy of the original to see the whole picture. Love that Eagle...

Hi Dom,

I found this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bicentennial_themed_F-4_Phantom_II.jpg 

Ken

Bockscar

Son Of Medicine Man:

 

Bockscar:

 

Found another one:

 

 

Hi Dom,

Pretty cool looking!

Ken

 

Thanks Ken;

That's a great painting, I wish I could find a copy of the original to see the whole picture. Love that Eagle...

Here is a couple more:

http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices/gallery/images/f4/d4c-118173-8.htm 

http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices/gallery/images/f4/d4c-118173-9.htm 

Ken

Cool

Thanks