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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:16 PM

Ok, People, listen up... Keep a bookmark (If you're still TBA on a kit) on Page 4 where the GO/ NO GO list is at the top..

Some Kits have been changed as Stik and I find out about some origins. What was a "GO" may now be a "NO-GO" and vice-versa...

Last nite while we were talking Back-Channel,  he discovered and informed me he came across the info that  the B-24D is a   "GO" ...   Doesn't matter if it's a ProModeler or Monogram, Monogram "Classic", or Revell boxing, it was first releaed in 1983, meaning pre-merger..

Here's the link to the page:

 /forums/t/135482.aspx?PageIndex=4

It's a "Living Document" until 31 March... Some other kits status has changed too, so check your builds..

Also, check the roster on Page One in the first post and make sure I have you listed and listed correctly...

Grazie..

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:08 PM

Yeah, you're good to go then, Smitty...

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Posted by BigSmitty on Thursday, February 10, 2011 2:52 PM

HvH,

I found the instructions and the decals for both of my Monogram kits.  I forgot that I keep old/finished instruction manuals and extra decals in an old 1/72 P-47 kit box.  Decals still look pretty good, no yellowing, etc.

Oh and I checked to make sure the F-15C was a legit Monogram kit.  Stamped on the upper half of the wing area is "Copyright - Monogram Models, Inc - Made in U S A"  Pretty sure that validates it as Monogram even after the Revell/Monogram merger, right?

Matt - IPMS #46275

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, February 10, 2011 2:28 PM

the Baron

Oh, and please count me in, with the SBD done as an A-24, Philipines, December 1941, and the TBF done as a FAA Tarpon.

Grazie!

Brad aka Al "Da Tooth" Dente

Good choices, both in kits and variants... Plenty of scratch-building to do in those cockpits.. I always like seeing the Grumman "Turkey" in FAA Feathers... Same with a Banshee vs yet another Dauntless..... (Don't forget to get rid of its tailhook...)

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, February 10, 2011 2:21 PM

kg4kpg

Here is my Kingfisher and Stuka anyway.  And I may do a T-6 as well.  All in 1/48 of course.

Of course.. Go..

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, February 10, 2011 2:18 PM

troublemaker66

Don Hammerleoni,

I would like to have your permission to build the 1973 boxing of the Hurricane and the dreaded F-80C Shooting Star with removeable tail...I know that you are a busy man so I will await your answer...Bow Down

Make it so...

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, February 10, 2011 2:16 PM

MKelley

Put me down for the TBD-1 Devastator and P-51D. Photos to follow. When can I display the badge?

1: Done

2: As soon as you cut a part from its sprue and glue it to another one, or start painting a small part while it's still on it... That goes for the rest of you mugs, too... I'm feeling particularly generous on this one, since the response to this group build is so good... 

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, February 10, 2011 2:11 PM

kbuzz01

Hans - does this one work?

 

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t65/kbuzz_photos/MonogramF102.jpg?t=1297144474

Yepper, it was initially released pre-merger, around 1983.

Also, how about the 1:48 Monogram EA-6B?

Nope, it was a Post-merger kit, 1992..

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:59 PM

stikpusher

OK, choice for my #2 subject, a 1/48 PCF Swift boat. The re issue by Revell. But its pedigree is stamped inside beneath the deck- Monogram Models, 1967.

http://www.fast-autos.net/diecast-cars-models/diecast-car-image-large/monogram-viet-nam-swift-patrol-boat-1967-nmib-1-48_350426982061.jpg

 

Ya, that Logo is a dead give-away that it's OLD Monogram, and way befoe they were re-boxing anything, and the "Skill Level 2" stuff on the Revell box is a 1980/90s thing..

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:53 PM

Like, "Mono-GRAM-a"?

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Posted by p38jl on Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:36 PM

ah.. I see that... ok,, wasnt sure if at first it was spelled wrong on purpose, like it was an attempt at some Mafiaoso type ennunciation.. lolYes

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:33 PM

It was misspelled initially by me, so everyone that used the reply buttons got it the same way...

I went back and, using the edit button, fixed mine... Now if you reply to my posts, it's right, but if you reply to anyone who hasn't fixed theirs, it'll be wrong..

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Posted by p38jl on Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:24 PM

my own post ? ... humm..

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:12 PM

You gotta fix it on your own post..

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Posted by p38jl on Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:07 AM

pppsst... is Monogram spelled wrong on purpose in the line header ?? Whistling

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Posted by taxtp on Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:16 AM

Nice work on the Vette.

Here are my two kits.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by kustommodeler1 on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 10:11 PM

OK, I started on my first build, the 'Vette. As I indicated before, it's Monogram's Corvette ZR-1 original release 1989, Made in U.S.A. Morton Grove, Il

 

Now before all those in the know hit the roof yelling "There were NO 1989 ZR-1s!!" Actually you are half right. There were no ZR-1s sold to the general public until the 1990 model year, but GM DID make 13 1989 models which remained corporate property.

Now, to the kit. This kit is rather unique, as it is patterned after the 1989 ZR-1 which carried the original interior design for the C-4 which was introduced in the 1984 model year.

The instrument panel had what was to be known as the typical '80s type digital vacuum fluorescent display which driving enthusiasts never really warmed up to, so almost like a fad, they disappeared rapidly in the '90s.

 

I started by removing the molded-in instruments leaving the 2 square holes and one rectangular one open. I then found a photo of a C-4 cluster all lit up during it's power-on self test, and scaled it down. After a few test prints, and adjustments, I set the printer to highest quality, and printed.

After giving the instrument panel a base of satin black, I laminated the photo paper printed cluster to the back of the panel. Now to detail the rest of the panel......

 

I also got started on the engine too. It has red wire included for the ignition wires, and black tubing for the heater hoses. I will wire that up as time for installation gets closer.

 

Thanks for looking, more later..........

Darrin

Setting new standards for painfully slow buildsDead

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Posted by vetteman42 on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 8:37 PM

Ok Hans I am in with the F-15 and the P-51D, both Monogram in 1/48 scale. I will post the box pictures tomorrow and if its ok I just finished an old 1/48 Monogram F-14A and will post a picture of that also. Its modeled after the one on display at the Ronald Regan Library.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 7:16 PM

Ok, gotcha both...

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Posted by taxtp on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 2:40 PM

Hans von Hammer

 

 taxtp:

 

I've got a Monogram Porsche 904 in the stash. It's kit number 2954. The body has an inscription to the effect of Copyright Monogram Models Inc 1992.

Cheers

Tony

 

 

So Tony, you in with that, or were you just letting Bob know that the kit was ok?

Hi Hans,

I was trying to assist Bob. You can put me down for a Bugatti 35B, at least until I change my mind or manage to get my paws on an Aston Martin DB4. The Bugatti is in the 'white box' and is copyright to Monogram 1978, BTW.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by vonBrakken on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 2:03 PM

Here is my start on the Skyraider.

In the hanger: 1/48 Tamiya A6M2 Zeke

You hit somebody with your fist and not with your fingers spread. ~ Guderian 

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Posted by kustommodeler1 on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 2:03 PM

As a builder, now 47 years young, I got to confess I was an automotive builder hot and heavy for years before I ever picked up the first aircraft kit.

 

There are times that 1/24 in Revell boxing is not originally Monogram. Some are domesticated Revell Germany kits, like my Ferrari 612 Scaglietti. One would be pretty safe with all the older American muscle kits though, like those listed on Revell's website.

Darrin

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 1:27 PM

beav

 Hans von Hammer:

The Hawk and Corporal are ex-Renwal kits, if I'm not mistaken, and the Hunter is a Revell-Germany product that also was released under the Revell/Monogram label, but was released post-Revell/Monogram merger... 

Hate to be a stickler, but after all, it's "Monogram Mafia"...  Just like the real Mafia, which traces your roots back to the "Old Country" in order to be a "made" man, the kit has to be able to be traced back to an original Monogram release in order to be "made"...

 

 

Confused  Renwal sucks.  But I completely understand.

Come up wit' anything else yet?

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 1:25 PM

bobbaily

Re: Porsche 904-Thank you all for your input.  Now I just have to make sure that no one out bids me.....

Lemme know when you get it...

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 1:25 PM

B17Pilot

I would really like to join in here, but I couldn't start on mine till April.  Will follow along though.

Ahh, pull a couple down from the shelf, cut a part off a sprue, or maybe add a little flat black to a part still on the sprue, and you're "started"...

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 1:22 PM

taxtp

I've got a Monogram Porsche 904 in the stash. It's kit number 2954. The body has an inscription to the effect of Copyright Monogram Models Inc 1992.

Cheers

Tony

So Tony, you in with that, or were you just letting Bob know that the kit was ok?

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 1:19 PM

It's a gap that needs to be filled, I think, because look at how much confusion we've got about the 90's releases

Oh, no doubt about THAT...  The 90's and late 80's era of kits were driving me nuts... Especially the ProModeler series, since the kits in thse boxes were coming from everywhere, lol...  And, not all that many were even Monogram kits in the first place..  Basically, we're looking at kits that were in Monogram boxes from 1986 and back, 1886 being the year of the merger...   Didn't help that Monogram started putting their logo back on things that weren't originally theirs, lol.. 

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 1:10 PM

p38jl

Hans,, don't start stealing your med supplies for scratch building, untill your RELEASED from the Hospital.. !! lol.  ok ?? ....Yes

I already grabbed a new supply of gloves and those cone-shaped things they attach to the light to look in you ears and nose with.. Dunno what I need 'em for, but I'll need 'em someday... If nothing else, they'll make great funnels and viscosity cups for paint mixing...

I'm ALWAYS on the lookout for stuff like that...

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 12:39 PM

bondoman

Godfather, I'd like to put in for cook of the outfit. Never know when you're gonna have to feed twenty guys.

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm150/6134rdm/DSC_0397.jpg

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm150/6134rdm/DSC_0389.jpg

Santa Madre! MANGIA!

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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, February 9, 2011 11:45 AM

Hans von Hammer

Ok, Baron.. Did some checking and the 1979 "White-Box" release of the A-7 is indeed an Ex-Aurora kit, at least according "Modeling MadnessDOT com" 's review of it...  

Good catch... Not being a "Jet guy", I need to check a little harder, lol.. Shoulda suspected it, since their never was a 60's release of it, nor did they ever do a real "box-art" type of release in the 80s..

 

EDIT:  Upon further reviews, and a took jog around the net, it appears that Monogram retooled the molds for the Aurora A-7A Corsair II, but the A-7E, boxed as a Revell kit, isn't Aurora's kit, but rather an ex-Hasegawa mold..  Doesn't change anything though.. Both versions are ineligible..

 

Grazie, Padrone!  My source for any of these kit origins is Graham's books on Monogram, Revell and Aurora, good info on Monogram and Revell kits up to the merger, at which point, he stopped his research (and his kit catalog).  It's a gap that needs to be filled, I think, because look at how much confusion we've got about the 90's releases?

As an aside, the Aurora Corsair was considered by some to be the best kit they ever produced.

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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