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The Offical Natural Metal Finish Group Build III

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  • From: Vancouver, WA
Posted by AndyT on Thursday, September 22, 2011 10:07 PM

vetteman42

Andy T Alclad is a very good paint you can get very good results with and if you dont want to spray with lacquer based paints there is always Talon paint which is acrylic. Dont give up on the foil Andy, get yourself a P-47 or something like it with a simple airframe for a first go. My first one was a Testers P-47 both simple and cheap too. My P-38 was my 3rd foil build and let me tell ya, it like to have drove me nuts with all the compound curves and such, but in the end it was worth it all.

What ever you decide to do just let me know and I will be happy to get you listed on the front page. If this is your first group build dont be shy about asking questions, there are a lot of very talented people in this group who are more than willing to help out.  And I see from your posts you are new here.

Welcome Sign to the forum Andy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think I'll do the P-38 for this build and do it on Alcad or MMM. I'll pick up a P-47 a little later and give the foil another go.

As far as how far along I am. I just removed the pieces from the sprue glued the wings together and applied the foil.

Andy
Imagination is Froever.

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Posted by B17Pilot on Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:13 PM

I got the cockpit parts on my P-47N all weathered and assembled, even installed in the fuselodge while I was at it. Oh yea since I was weathering things, got the engine out of the way, though I'm thinking the engine needs more.

Cockpit assembled and installed:

OK here's a close up of the engine. It does have a wash of black oils on it, but as mentioned, thinking it needs more, no?

  

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:50 PM

Gamera wowzers doesnt look like I missed anything from the little I saw. I do hope we dont lose the people who said they wont be back here. Its sad a few can make things so bad in so short a time. Glad I did miss it to be honest.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:42 PM

Doogs: Went back and reread your post. duraluminum? After post-shading with aluminum I misted that over the model- would duraluminum have worked better? Now that I think about it I think I will go back and do the control surfaces, gun areas, etc along with a few random panels in a different shade.

AndyT: As Vetteman said a P-47 would be good, I've seen people use a F-86 or MiG-15 too. Anything with a more simple design and not as many friggin' complex curves as the P-38.

Vetteman: You have no idea, just look up the 'end forum fascism' or any of the five million 'manifesto' posts by Jdice... Confused

Edit: Vman: I think Aaron wiped the offending posts. Thankfully - I'd rather we all put that behind us.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:25 PM

Andy T Alclad is a very good paint you can get very good results with and if you dont want to spray with lacquer based paints there is always Talon paint which is acrylic. Dont give up on the foil Andy, get yourself a P-47 or something like it with a simple airframe for a first go. My first one was a Testers P-47 both simple and cheap too. My P-38 was my 3rd foil build and let me tell ya, it like to have drove me nuts with all the compound curves and such, but in the end it was worth it all.

What ever you decide to do just let me know and I will be happy to get you listed on the front page. If this is your first group build dont be shy about asking questions, there are a lot of very talented people in this group who are more than willing to help out.  And I see from your posts you are new here.

Welcome Sign to the forum Andy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gamera I missed out on a juicey feud ???? Bummer those can be kinda fun sometimes.

 

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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  • From: Vancouver, WA
Posted by AndyT on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:10 AM

vetteman42

 

Andy T its not to late at all to join in on the fun. How far along is your P-38 ? Looks like you have the idea with the foil too, but you have picked a tough one for a first time.

Actually i have removed the foil. I didn't like the job I did. Maybe the P-38 is too tough for a first attempt. I am going to look at alcad and decide.

Andy
Imagination is Froever.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 7:44 AM

Thanks guys!

Vetteman: Sorry to hear about the family issues, still I was afraid you'd ended up in that whole weekend feud and got ticked off and left! Glad to see you're still with us.

Doogs: Thanks, I think it's the light though, the wings look ok in RL. I have went back and sanded some trash and rough areas off the cowling. I hope I don't end up wrecking more than I fix this time. Black Eye

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 7:33 AM

Gamera - digging it! You going to add any contrasting panels? Also, looks like on the upper wings you may want to mist a very light overcoat of Duraluminum. Might be the photo angle, but I think the upper wings could use a touch more blending.

vetteman - family, can't live with em, can't kill 'em! Seriously, hope all's well!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:04 AM

Gamera N I C E !!! You should be happy with that P-47 YesYes The paint job looks just fine from my end, no runs and the contrasting with the black looks right on.

Andy T its not to late at all to join in on the fun. How far along is your P-38 ? Looks like you have the idea with the foil too, but you have picked a tough one for a first time.

Sorry for my absence all, it seems family stuff has gotten in the way again. Hopefully this will be the end of it for a while, at least I hope it will.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by AndyT on Sunday, September 18, 2011 2:32 PM

Is it tooo late o get in. I've been out of it for a few years. I am working on an Academt 1/48 P-38 and using foil for the fisrt time.

 Haven't started buffing yet.

Andy
Imagination is Froever.

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:46 AM

Well, here's where my P-47 stands.I borrowed Doogs' technique and though there is some trash in the paint and it looks a little grainy from the gloss black always orange peels on me I'm pretty durn happy so far.

 

You can see where the red trim chipped off on the cowling.

Going to repair the red trim and a little more NM on the tail and I think she should be ready for decals.

(Cross your fingers)

Cliff

 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Nebraska, USA
Posted by CallSignOWL on Monday, September 12, 2011 10:48 AM

vetteman42

CallSignOwl "Done" I will be more than happy to switch your build to the Tamiya kit. I will however be hunting fior your OD/NG build, gotta see that one Big Smile

thanks vetteman! The little P-51 will be hiding out in my Odd Animal GB once I get some free time from my studies. Smile

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Posted by jetmodeler on Sunday, September 11, 2011 7:22 PM

Excellent job doogs. The pony came out great.

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Saturday, September 10, 2011 11:56 PM

CallSignOwl "Done" I will be more than happy to switch your build to the Tamiya kit. I will however be hunting fior your OD/NG build, gotta see that one Big Smile

Doogs I can only echo what has been so eloquently said above Toast I too plan to ummmm borrow your shading technique in the future. Very well done sir.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by kermit on Saturday, September 10, 2011 10:26 PM

Doogs,

Beautiful pony!! That panel line wash really gives it an authentic feel. Love itYes I take it the paper towel residue problem was solved...?

Every model you put out shows not only skill but also how it is decompression/ therapy for you after a long ardous day at work or with the kidsWink The attention to detail and your painting are skills to be envied.

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by B17Pilot on Saturday, September 10, 2011 10:10 PM

CallSignOWL

gorgeous mustang doogs!!  Bow Down

Ditto

  

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, September 10, 2011 7:37 PM

Love how Petie come out Doogs! Beautiful work!

As I said I'm going to steal...um... borrow your pre-shading technique for my P-47D. I keep getting trash in the black undercoat though. Going to give the airbrush a serious cleaning out and hopefully I'll have the model ready when the Alclad gets here next week.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Saturday, September 10, 2011 7:27 AM

gorgeous mustang doogs!!  Bow Down

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:27 AM

Beautiful work Doogs! Toast

I hope mine turns out half as well!

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by DoogsATX on Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:11 AM

Alright, I'm calling it. Petie 2nd is officially off the bench!

Overall, I'm proud of her, but I definitely have some areas I want to work on before I tackle the big 1/32 kit.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Friday, September 9, 2011 7:48 AM

Owl - yay another blue nose! 

Got Petie 2 on the wheels last night...still lots of detail work to do, but the end is definitely in sight now!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Wednesday, September 7, 2011 11:29 AM

that mustang looks awesome, doogs!   Propeller

 

oh, vetteman, can you switch the 1/72 mustang for Tamiyas P-51B in 1/48? I decided I have too many shiny mustangs and want to make the 1/72 one have an OD/NG scheme. The Tamiya will get the final decal set form my "Blue Nosed Birds of Bodney" sheet: "The Flying Scot" is the middle plane with full invasion stripes. Smile

 

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Wednesday, September 7, 2011 10:57 AM

Doogs The Pete is lookin great man !!!! If I may, go to the autoparts store Autozone, Pepboys, Kragen, Oriley, one of those and they carry a blue paper towel that is lint free. I think they call them shop towels on a roll. They are pricey but I cut a small piece from a whole sheet to wipe down my models with so a roll lasts forever, and you get zero lint or wollybogers on a surface. Oh and they work great, damp, wet or dry.

PS I think Napa carries them too.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by B17Pilot on Wednesday, September 7, 2011 9:06 AM

Try a Swiffer duster rag, will only work if they're being held by static electricity

  

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, September 7, 2011 7:50 AM

B-17: Sharp looking cockpit! She's coming right along.

Doogs: Wow Petie looks great! Maybe wiping the model down with a damp clean tee-shirt? Are the fibers stuck to the model or just holding on with static electricity?

BTW: Good luck with the move.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Wednesday, September 7, 2011 1:24 AM

B17 - Hopefully I won't be out of action for that long. My goal is to be up and running again by Thanksgiving. ESPECIALLY if tradition holds and the wife takes the kids to Houston for like four days!

I promised more Mustang, and here we go. Wash is finished up tonight. Only problem with this Flory stuff is that you have to wipe the excess off with paper towels, which leaves little paper towel fibers all over the friggin' place. Anybody have any bright ideas how to get them off? Thinking I might try a dryer sheet, but would that mess up the sealing coat?

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by B17Pilot on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 10:33 PM

Doogs - that's good and bad news.  Good that the new house is that much closer, bad in that the P-47 has to be packed up, along with other models (except for those armor ones).  Now how am I suppose to steal your tips for my own P-47 if you're not working on yours? (guess I'll have to pull my P-47 out has well Wink,...jk).

It'll still be fun to see that shiny M4A4!

  

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Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 10:20 PM

Hate to do this guys, but I need to put the P-47N on hold. 

Found out today that the projected closing date on our new house has been moved up to Oct. 13. That's up from early November, which is up from February 2012. We'd been planning to have this house packed up by October 15, so obviously , this changes things, and throws any chance of one more quick build out the window.

I'll still be finishing up the Mustang, but once that's gone, I'll be packing up the bench save for a few essentials, then cranking on some armor builds. Figure I can slap together 3-4 tanks with nothing but sprue cutters, tweezers, sanding sticks, xactos and glue while all the paint and pigments and masking materials are in boxes...

Heck. Maybe I'll start on that NMF M4A4 I'm planning!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by B17Pilot on Monday, September 5, 2011 6:26 PM

I started on my P-47 this weekend.  Still need to weather the cockpit, but its been painted.  Still working on the Ultracast seat, broke off a piece getting it off the pour stub, but its repairable.

Cockpit:

  

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, September 2, 2011 9:21 AM

Ahhhh, ok! I was planning on just leaving them as they were, putting a drop of silver paint in mine when done, then a drop of Tamiya clear in whatever colour, and then either the kit part or a blob of Microscale Crystal Clear. The MV lenses will look a lot nicer though.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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