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Posted by bsyamato on Wednesday, August 3, 2011 8:22 AM

heres the rotor:

added control arms to the down rotor, decided to not use the pieces of the kit for these control parts.

checking the upper i notice that blades glues same as the down rotor... it's impossible on real thing !

The Kamov helicopters particularity is the two rotor turn in inverse direction, the from the up rotor must looks specular, but putting the up rotor in this way he flow the air up Whistling ... the helicopter will never fly in this situation. 

I resolved the mess with some cut to the base of blades , holed the pieces and fit metal rods inside

and now the rotor is in right position , also added the others control arms 

actual situation of rotor, all control arms glued , need only to add last pieces to the top and cut and fix lower control arms.

soon some update Propeller

 

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Posted by bsyamato on Tuesday, August 2, 2011 7:58 PM

before to forget about, searching for ka-18 rotor details i found another russian site about walkarounds 

http://walkarounds.airforce.ru/index.htm

Actually working on the ka-18 rotor to resolve some vodka inducted error on the engineering of rotor kit..... if i followed the intructions the helicopter never could fly ( Hmm ..static kits don't fly )

today the report with pictures

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Posted by bsyamato on Tuesday, August 2, 2011 12:13 PM

joeviz

Thank you bsyamato!

As for the under-track, I do not like the way the brown out but there was nothing I could do to repair it.  It also became very glossy after i added future to seal it.  Anyway, I will take your advice and black to it. I think that will help it some.

just high thinning few drops of black (i use enamels, acrilycs does work in the same way) and place with a thin brush (0 size or less) at the star of tracks separation, the color will run in the grooves, with a q-tip remove the excessive paint. This method avoid drastic washes and the danger to ruin the rest of the kit . If you don't like an hard separtion can use a darker color respect the tracks main color . 

In any case the tank looks good without other retouches Big Smile 

I want another russian tank to build but i've no time Crying (and money) seen in some place the su-122 , looks really crude as i like !!

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Tuesday, August 2, 2011 11:26 AM

Great looking armor MajMike and Joeviz.   I like the two different approaches to the whitewashing.

Build more armor, it's addictive.

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Posted by Echo139er on Tuesday, August 2, 2011 8:02 AM

Thank you bsyamato!

As for the under-track, I do not like the way the brown out but there was nothing I could do to repair it.  It also became very glossy after i added future to seal it.  Anyway, I will take your advice and add black to it. I think that will help it some.

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Posted by bsyamato on Tuesday, August 2, 2011 5:14 AM

Joeviz really great work as first tank Geeked

IMHO only the under tracks need a black lining to blow up better the various tracks components but looks great even so YesYes

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Tuesday, August 2, 2011 4:13 AM

I'm a bit of an armour "know it nothing", but both of these look pretty good to me. If it's good or accurate is a mystery to me, but the weathering / shading on the SU-85 looks impressive.

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Posted by Echo139er on Monday, August 1, 2011 7:15 PM

I am calling the SU-85 Russian Tank Destroyer (winter) DONE!Big Smile

I must say I have found a new vise in Armor. 

This has been a great project for me.  My first tank has gained me an incredible amount of knowledge.

I had my share of problems but I tried to remedy them and hopefully produced a decent looking build. I do feel I over did it in the weathering and my paint results were too ruff and out of scale.  I know what I did wrong (paint was too thick) and will not happen again.

The deck tools/pieces are left off on purpose.  I ruined them!  LOL...  Still working on the tow cable though.  That will be added at a later time, once I figure out how to make it to scale.

Please critique away; my feeling will not get hurt.  I want to learn and do more so please bring it.

(again I apologize for the photo quality, still using my cell)

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Posted by bsyamato on Monday, August 1, 2011 5:44 AM

hope nothing too bad in the family Mike Sad

nice work seems to me on the t-62 , a weathering layer will improve all , you're near to finish it Tongue Tied

the missiles and the bay looks really great Milairjunkie Yes

I finally finished a kit after 3 months, but for another gb, just now working on the little kamov

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:39 PM

Sorry for the absence.  Been in a bit of a depressive slump, runs in the family.

Everyone here has been exhibiting the kind of skills that I still struggle toward.  That being said, here's photos of my T-62A.  There's still some fiddling to be done, but I'm tired of looking at it on my desk.

I took the easy way out by applying a winter whitewash.  Weathering, as presented by other builders, was not appropriate here.  Red Army vehicles were normally stored under cover, so rust, faded paint, etc was not usually seen.  I used a mix of Master Modeler Light Grey and Testors Flat White thinned to about 75 paint: 25 thinner.  It was applied over a coat of USSR Armor Green.

A piece of surgical gauze painted green and white to simulate a camo net.  The net was rolled and secured to the vehicle with sewing thread to simulate rope.

The white trap is aluminium foil painted white.

The mantlet cover is aluminium foil painted tan.

May do some detailing later on, but its time to move on.  Thanks for looking.

 

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Sunday, July 31, 2011 3:49 PM

A (little) bit of progress on the Blackjack;

The weapons bays & main landing gear bays are now fitted into the lower fuselage, I've used weld adhesive throughout here as the blended central section of the fuselage will have to bear the weight from the main gear as well as the extended wings;

The upright edges of all the bays has been painted to make masking easier when the time comes & the areas above the intakes have also been painted as would be difficult after the intakes are fitted;

The instructions suggest fitting the forward fuselage halves to their respective upper & lower main fuselage parts (as below) before joining the two complete halves together, but after a bit of studying I've decided to joint the completed forward section to the completed rear section - there just seems too much room for alignment problems in building in the suggested way;

 

The upper & lower forward fuselage parts are not that clever a fit, the upper section being about 2mm wider on each side than the lower;

I'm thinking about gluing some crap plastic locating tabs into the upper section in the hope that it will be pulled narrower when it's assembled. I had planned to make these quite robust, with plenty of surface area for strength, but looking at how close a fit the cockpit section is, there isn't much room to play about with (any suggestions on this one welcome?);

The canopy isn't that great a fit either, being narrower than the fuselage side by a noticeable amount, although I'm hoping that if I can get the "tab" arrangement sorted for the forward fuselage halves, that this should narrow the gap somewhat so that a minimum of work will have to be done sorting the canopy / fuselage joint;

The intake bodies are now built up & just need some sanding & finishing where the side panels meet the floor & roof;

Tags: Tu-160
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Posted by bsyamato on Thursday, July 28, 2011 11:05 AM

kg4kpg

Please add me to this GB.  I have 4 or 5 1/144 jets to add but I can't remember which ones.  I'll come back tonight when I get home with the list.  For sure a Revell 1/144 Su-37 Berkut and Revell 1/144 Mig 1.44 MFI.

Thanks,

Chris

try to pm the host probably are under the sun (me too want a vacacy Crying )

No 1/144 bear in the stash Stick out tongue

Milairjunkie the huge beast come out good YesYes

my ka-18 probably can be parked under the engines without the rotor touch it Indifferent

 

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Wednesday, July 27, 2011 11:32 AM

Dre

Milair- what scale is that again?   It looks like it's going to gigantic when finished.

It's 1/72, but even at that it's going to be big - 750mm long with 770mm span. I really don't know where I'm going to put her when she's finished, but I'll worry about that later............

Dre

Gonna have to "borrow" that liquid styrene idea, too....Wink

It's one of these "black art" things that I've been meaning to try for a while, it seems to work quite well, but the smaller / finer you can get the styrene before starting, the quicker & more easily it will mix - even after a day I still had some lumps in the mixture!

Tags: Tu-160
Dre
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Posted by Dre on Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:35 AM

Milair- what scale is that again?   It looks like it's going to gigantic when finished.

Gonna have to "borrow" that liquid styrene idea, too....Wink

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Wednesday, July 27, 2011 6:50 AM

terry35

Milairjunkie that is some savage work on that weapons bay, brilliant.

It's not bad, but when you consider how much some people are cramming into small fighters it's not that great.

As soon as I get the intake bodies ready, I'll be able to move onto really getting this thing together. I've tried to sort the earlier problem that I had with the intake floor by using melted styrene to build up the corners - I put some sprue scrap into liquid glue & left overnight in a sealed jar & used the resulting "liquid styrene" for the repair. It's the first time that I've done this & it worked out quite well, although the consistency might have been a little better (I think I may have used too much glue);

The intake bodies are ready to go together now, the red sections on the lower intake edges are protector put in place by the ground crew;

Apart from flaps & slats, the wings are built. I used liquid glue on all the rear most joints which are not that obtrusive & I,m going to use a touch-n-flow with plast-i-weld on the leading edges - this should hopefully give me a nice little bead of melted plastic so that I can easily sand the leading edge to get a smooth joint-less finish;

The fuselage was slightly warped when it arrived, so it's spent a few weeks taped together to straighten it out a bit, although the weapons bay slots are still a bit on the wavy side - hopefully when the bay interiors are fitted, it will straighten this out & add a bit of rigidity. A harmless pilot with a winder for scale;

Here you can see a General Electric powered White Swan, with all high lift devices deployed for take off (the engine nacelle is a J-79 from the B-58, again for some size perspective);

As a side-note, the multicolored, much painted paper in the background of these photos are the leftovers from some heavy wallpaper. I've got about 3/4 a roll of this stuff kicking around & it's great for painting on, acrylics absorb into it & dry very quickly & it can just be rolled up at the end of shift.

Tags: Tu-160
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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, July 23, 2011 4:37 PM

Milairjunkie that is some savage work on that weapons bay, brilliant.

Dre the Mig 3 looks great, I have a pain looking at them in whitewash. If I ever get to mine it will have to be the tiger stripe I posted a while back.

Good luck to everybody as this is shaping up into  a great GB.

Terry.

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Posted by kg4kpg on Friday, July 22, 2011 1:13 PM

Please add me to this GB.  I have 4 or 5 1/144 jets to add but I can't remember which ones.  I'll come back tonight when I get home with the list.  For sure a Revell 1/144 Su-37 Berkut and Revell 1/144 Mig 1.44 MFI.

Thanks,

Chris

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Posted by Echo139er on Friday, July 22, 2011 12:34 PM

I have also used this site in the past.  I usually go to it using Google Chrome.  Once I open a link I use the translate to English option.  Not the best but close enough to help me understand what is being said.

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Friday, July 22, 2011 12:20 PM

Thanks for the link, bsyamato.   I'll bookmark it for later use.

 

I've always wanted to learn Russian, just haven't had the opportunity yet.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Friday, July 22, 2011 11:44 AM

Yes, it's a pretty handy site - I have also used it for Tu-160 reference pics, which are to be honest pretty thin on the ground.

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Posted by bsyamato on Friday, July 22, 2011 11:17 AM

the site is airwar ru 

click on the link to open, the site, the only bad thing is that only russian language avaible and not so simple to find what you  need Sad

the trick is to learn about the various sections avaible what they mean, ex fww2 are the Fighter world war 2 section .. and so on

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Friday, July 22, 2011 9:56 AM

Don't apologize Bsyamato about the refs...  I wanted to build this one that way!     The MiG and the T/34 were both stress-reliever builds for me after I've been fighting some complicated projects (1/32 Cyber-Hobby Bf109, 1/32 DML Bf 110 C7, 1/32 Eduard Bf 109).   Historical accuracy was given far less weight than the pure build-for-the-fun-of-it.  

But what is that Russian site that you mentioned?   Now that my interest in Soviet aircraft, especially MiG and Sukhoi, is peaked I'll be looking for details for future builds.

 

 

Looking back that MiG, I think that I need to add some exhaust trails and finish weathering the landing gear.   The antenna mast needs to be reattached for the eleventy-fifth time and wired, the nav lights need to be put on..   wait, this thing ain't done by long shot!Bang Head

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Posted by bsyamato on Friday, July 22, 2011 8:14 AM

Dre

I'm calling this MiG 3 finished as well.  Still not too thrilled with my weathering, but I'm (supposed to be)learning.  I didn't use any references in painting and decaling this kit, so I don't know if a lack of topside Red Stars on the wings is correct or not...and I don't really mind if it isn't!   I really wanted to use the red arrow striping, but those decals were not cooperative in the least.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh215/DrePanzerVI/finish.jpg

That little wiring detail on the bomb racks- I can see that I need to seat the locating pin a bit deeper.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh215/DrePanzerVI/bombrack3.jpg

 

All in all, if you like pain-free big-scale birds then i really do recommend this kit as it was simple to assemble, the wing fit is perfect and it doesn't require an advanced paint job.  I'd give it 5/5 (red) stars.

looks really good Yes

i've a good site for russian reference Sad

don't know that you withou reference for the little mig, sorry Dre

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Posted by Echo139er on Friday, July 22, 2011 8:04 AM

Looks great Dre!  Your weathering is fine.  

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Friday, July 22, 2011 7:39 AM

I'm calling this MiG 3 finished as well.  Still not too thrilled with my weathering, but I'm (supposed to be)learning.  I didn't use any references in painting and decaling this kit, so I don't know if a lack of topside Red Stars on the wings is correct or not...and I don't really mind if it isn't!   I really wanted to use the red arrow striping, but those decals were not cooperative in the least.

That little wiring detail on the bomb racks- I can see that I need to seat the locating pin a bit deeper.

 

All in all, if you like pain-free big-scale birds then i really do recommend this kit as it was simple to assemble, the wing fit is perfect and it doesn't require an advanced paint job.  I'd give it 5/5 (red) stars.

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Posted by bsyamato on Tuesday, July 19, 2011 4:56 AM

Karl good modding on the nose zone Yes

Joeviz, one of my su-85 option was the winter camo, now i see your wintered 85 i regret my green choice Crying

Terry nice build on the artillery piece.

Milairjunkie what beast the tupolev!!! i fear my little gannet for the flaps opened option but the blackjack seems have outstandig flaps and too huge number of pieces 

Dre the kamov is not finished Crying actually too few free time, hot sun and girls and lots of work keep me away from the workbench

 

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Monday, July 18, 2011 3:12 PM

I would imagine that doing the styrene indy links would be like that, so I use the much easier Friul metal tracks which take about 1 hour per side to link together.  Mindlessly repetitive but once you get into the zone the time just flies by... and no waiting for the glue to dry!

As for the crying, it is because I have lost a degree of fine motor control in right hand since my neck surgery in March.  I know what I could do once upon a time, but now it is increasingly frustrating to not be able to do it anymore.   But, your detail work sure is nice to look at and envy.Smile

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Monday, July 18, 2011 3:01 PM

Dre

 that detail painting makes me want to cry it's so clean and precise.  Those wings would drive me insane, but I will "borrow" your method of numbering and tracking parts.

I can't say I have cried at any point, but I am now slightly more ***-eyed than before. The wings with their small parts are more of a challenge than I had imagined, it's not that they are difficult or uninteresting in themselves, but the repetitive twiddling with such a large number of similar parts is a challenge. I don't know as I don't do AFV's, but I imagine complex tracks can get like this?

Tags: Tu-160
Dre
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Posted by Dre on Monday, July 18, 2011 12:04 PM

Joe- that's your first armor build?  Certainly looks as if you've been at them for a while.   Great looking tank destroyer, I can't wait to see it finished as I've never had any luck with whitewashes.   Kind of a shame to cover up that base paint work as it had such a grimy, used look.   It looked washed and weathered already.   You're on a good path to the Dark Side.

Karl, good save on the intake blanking.  After that NMF, how are you going to paint this one?

Milairjunkie- that detail painting makes me want to cry it's so clean and precise.  Those wings would drive me insane, but I will "borrow" your method of numbering and tracking parts.

Terry- I'm glad that you're tackling that towed artillery because I've often wondered what one would look like built up.   It's so odd-looking that it can only be Russian.   And thanks for the comments on the T34- that's the most flattering thing anyone has ever said about one of my models (I'm blushing like a schoolgirl).

Bsyamato- where's the finished 'copter? 

Keep up the great work guys, from what I'm seeing here I think that I need some more Soviet aircraft in my stash.   

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Monday, July 18, 2011 5:56 AM

Progress has been a bit on the slow side here, between not getting much bench time & getting stuck in a bit of a rut with a seemingly endless number of small parts for trimming & sanding.............. Anyway, it hopefully shouldn't be that long before I can start to get some of these bit together into a larger & more meaningfull state;

Weapons bay with 6 missiles decaled & clear coated. The Begemot decals are very accurate & detailed, they also come with a very detailed placement guide with colour call-out's for the model, which are more detailed than those supplied by Trumpeter - on the down side the decal carriers were a bit on the yellow side for my liking;

 

The main landing gear bays are done;

The exhausts are best part finished apart from the contrast in the inside needing toned down a bit. I've been trying to figure out away to detail the contrasting dark & light sections of the outside of the petals that show when the exhausts are in there fully opened position - I could mask them up to do it, but it would take an eternity..............................;

The intakes are part done & presenting a fit problem;

The wings are also part done, but are taking some time due to the number of parts involed (50>60 per wing), here they are with flaps, but still without spoilers, slats & the inboard wing closure / fence arrangement;

To preserve what little sanity I have, I've been using zip seal bags to & keep the parts in a figurable order;

This is one of the inner flap sections;

 

 

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