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                        ARMOR - Towed Gun Group Build (ends 7/1/04)

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                        zokissima
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
                        Posted by zokissima on Thursday, April 15, 2004 8:08 AM
                        QUOTE: but my first vote would be a russian 76mm gun

                        Honestly, let's go for something different. I retract my vote for the 88 and vote for something OTHER than an 88 or a PAK
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:23 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by zokissima

                        QUOTE: but my first vote would be a russian 76mm gun

                        Honestly, let's go for something different. I retract my vote for the 88 and vote for something OTHER than an 88 or a PAK

                        Looking at the PaK it looks like it would be 2 lines and a circle on the badge, maybe we should go with a howitzer. Maybe a SIG 33 with the barrel elevated a little?
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:56 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by claymore68

                        Except Florida democrats, they'll want 4 or 5!Evil [}:)]Wink [;)]


                        Actually, I think they'll just want the right to vote. Thousands of Florida Democratic voters were wrongly denied the right to vote by the company that Republican governor and brother-of-a-candidate, Jeb Bush, contracted to determine voter eligibility. No Republican voters were affected, but I'm sure it was just a coincidence. Laugh [(-D]
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 15, 2004 10:02 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by Dwight Ta-ala

                        OK, let's see how it goes at this time...

                        88 - 2 votes / Pak 40 - 2 votes / Rus 75 - 1 vote


                        I vote for the Russian gun!
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                        zokissima
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
                        Posted by zokissima on Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:59 PM
                        Russian. Please no more 88 and Pak Big Smile [:D]
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 15, 2004 1:13 PM
                        i'm Finally back from Florida and all I have left to do is the nebelwerfer, my Demag is done but not weathered.

                        I'm also working on a US Bazooka team vignette, and a SAS Commando jeep for the SmallAFV GB. I've bought but havent started Tamiya's Pershing, Academy's Hellcat, and Italeri's DUKW.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:56 PM
                        Just a thought on the badge thing - instead of a specific gun how about staying with the theme of the build (any towed gun) and going with something based around the Towed Gun tactical symbol (sort of an inverted 'Y' if memory serves). That would give a badge that looked a bit like one of the old Avalon Hill cardboard wargames counters - anybody else old enough to remember them?

                        Only thing is my computer graphic skill score is a very small number indeed and all I can do is handball the idea to somebody else.

                        Cheers, Andy!
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:07 PM
                        Oh now I know what ya'll are voting about......duh!! Andy has a good idea but not many folks would catch on I don't think... Be more specific... I might burn for this but my favorite is the Pak 40 its just a cool gun with great lines... thats my vote...

                        One of these days I'll get to start... I suppose...

                        Peace Ya'll
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                        Dwight Ta-ala
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Philippines
                        Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Thursday, April 15, 2004 6:27 PM
                        Oh my...this is just like the elections. LOL.

                        OK could somebody please do the counting for me? Just inform me about the final results so that I can design the badge.

                        Progress Report:

                        Painted my 88 dark yellow all over after some pre-shading. Weathering time tonight and probably the figures and the base this weekend. If I am lucky to get enough time I may finish it this weekend.

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 15, 2004 7:35 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by Larry_Dunn

                        QUOTE: Originally posted by claymore68

                        Except Florida democrats, they'll want 4 or 5!Evil [}:)]Wink [;)]


                        Actually, I think they'll just want the right to vote. Thousands of Florida Democratic voters were wrongly denied the right to vote by the company that Republican governor and brother-of-a-candidate, Jeb Bush, contracted to determine voter eligibility. No Republican voters were affected, but I'm sure it was just a coincidence. Laugh [(-D]


                        Florida would have been a moot point if a certain individual had just managed to win his own home state. But then a whole excuse making industry would have withered & died.

                        Now let's get back to towed guns ....Smile [:)]
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 16, 2004 1:50 AM
                        Hey Dwight - if your doing the work on the badge, it seems fair if you decide the content. Have at it! Smile [:)]
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                        Dwight Ta-ala
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Philippines
                        Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Friday, April 16, 2004 2:30 AM
                        Andytee: Well, I would like to give others the chance on this. There are a lot of ideas floating aroung here and I think it is better to have a democratic process in this although it might take a lot longer to decide (excluding the possibilities of recounts...he-he-he). It is a group effort afterall.

                        Anyway, not so many have completed their pieces yet so we still have time. I can wait.

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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 16, 2004 2:34 AM
                        QUOTE: Hey Dwight - if your doing the work on the badge, it seems fair if you decide the content. Have at it!

                        Sign - Ditto [#ditto]

                        Ummm...ahhh...OOOOOOPPSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
                        Didn't mean to whack a hornet's nest with a stick!
                        I DO know the solution though...vote for me for President, I'll get this country back in order!
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                        Dwight Ta-ala
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Philippines
                        Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Friday, April 16, 2004 3:58 AM
                        Derek/Andy:

                        Thanks for the vote of confidence, guys. But let's just wait for the other's opinion on this, OK? I am very much biased on the 88 you know because that's what's I am building. However, I agree that we should have a badge that more or less represents all the pieces being modeled here. (Could be a frankenstein of a towed gun...he-he-he).

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                        zokissima
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
                        Posted by zokissima on Friday, April 16, 2004 7:15 AM
                        QUOTE: I think it is better to have a democratic process in this although it might take a lot longer to decide

                        Democracy only goes so far. Kind of ironic that we'd be using a democratic process to vote for a Facist piece of equipment.
                        Dwight, since you so gracefully agreed to make it, I think the decision should be yours. And I guess the 88 is a fairly recognizable piece of artillery, but PLEASE no PAK. Better pieces out there. Heck, even an American piece would be very nice.
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                        Scorn
                        • Member since
                          March 2004
                        • From: Sarepta, LA
                        Posted by Scorn on Friday, April 16, 2004 8:27 AM
                        I saw in the Stug (potential) group build that there was sign up for this one until May 20th. Is that correct? If so, I think I would like to join this one. Kinda missed out on the M1 build. Would have loved that one!
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 16, 2004 9:54 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by jratz

                        Florida would have been a moot point if a certain individual had just managed to win his own home state. But then a whole excuse making industry would have withered & died.


                        Or if the person more people voted for won the election. Laugh [(-D]

                        QUOTE: Now let's get back to towed guns ....Smile [:)]


                        Indeed.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 16, 2004 9:56 AM
                        Ok, roll call!

                        What towed gun is everybody working on right now?

                        I'll start.

                        Larry Dunn: US 8" howitzer
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                        zokissima
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
                        Posted by zokissima on Friday, April 16, 2004 11:09 AM
                        Demag towing a flak 43
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 16, 2004 11:13 AM
                        Finished!!!!!!!! Shock [:O]Tongue [:P]Wink [;)]Smile [:)]Big Smile [:D]Approve [^]

                        Larry, i just finished my Demag with nebelwerfer last night. I'm going to put into a dio where it has been abandoned and almost covered in snow

                        I'm hoping to build one or two other kits before the build's over, possibly that german mini howitzer thingie by Italeri or a pak 40

                        as far as the badge goes what if you made it the first towed gun-a cannon, thats pretty generic, but I'm with andytee, Dwight should have the final word.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 16, 2004 11:54 AM
                        I did the PaK 40 and am doing a 251/1 for a tow vehicle just because I have time left.
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                        maffen
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                          September 2003
                        Posted by maffen on Friday, April 16, 2004 1:18 PM
                        http://gallery56091.fotopic.net/c150875.html did osttractor with nebelwerfen Big Smile [:D] and a c7p (by the russians captured polish artillerie tractor pulling a 76.2mm
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 16, 2004 3:59 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by maffen

                        http://gallery56091.fotopic.net/c150875.html did osttractor with nebelwerfen Big Smile [:D] and a c7p (by the russians captured polish artillerie tractor pulling a 76.2mm


                        Maffen, most excellent!
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 16, 2004 4:08 PM
                        I'll be posting pics of my demag soon... stupid computers Banged Head [banghead]
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 16, 2004 4:35 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by Larry_Dunn

                        Ok, roll call!

                        What towed gun is everybody working on right now?

                        None! Big Smile [:D]

                        Finished, remember. Pak 40.


                        Maffen: NICE! How'd you do the mud - I can feel it suckin' my boots off!

                        Cheers, Andy!
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 16, 2004 5:52 PM
                        Matt: SiG 33, quite possibly untowed!

                        Maffen: Exceptional work as always!

                        Matt
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                        tigerman
                        • Member since
                          March 2003
                        • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
                        Posted by tigerman on Friday, April 16, 2004 6:55 PM
                        Like the jeep in the small AFV build, an 88mm has to be the most recognizable and infamous gun.

                        http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

                         Eric 

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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 16, 2004 7:28 PM
                        Larry:

                        AFV Club 155mm (with M4 HST).

                        I think your 8" is AFV Club also ? We should compare notes.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 16, 2004 7:44 PM
                        Excellent Maffen!
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 16, 2004 9:47 PM
                        Great job maffen!

                        As for the badge how bout the most generic towed gun.. an old cannon (civil war) thats the most generic gun and sidesteps the Axis vs Allied gun debate
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