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ARMOR - Towed Gun Group Build (ends 7/1/04)

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 16, 2004 11:56 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Larry_Dunn

Ok, roll call!

What towed gun is everybody working on right now?

I'll start.

Larry Dunn: US 8" howitzer


I'm working on three Russian AT guns in a defensive position along the Dneiper River.

here is a museum photo of the type of gun... ZIS 3


(ref page http://www.thetankmaster.com/english/afv/ZIS-3_01.asp )

and the 45mm guns (2) that I am including with the ZIS 3:


(ref page http://www.thetankmaster.com/ENGLISH/AFV/45mm1937.asp


so when I'm done my guns should look like those above, but will have crews operating them Tongue [:P]

I do not vote for the 88 on the badge, b/c:

1. it will probably be its own build one day
2. it doesnt look like most of the "towed" guns
3. i'm building russian stuff for this gb Clown [:o)]

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  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Saturday, April 17, 2004 12:34 PM
I think you make a valid point Will. That would be just as cool. IMHO

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 17, 2004 2:44 PM
Not to be presumptuous, but what do you guys think of this? Just a suggestion.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 17, 2004 10:32 PM
Cool i'm liking it....but is that a pak I see...

I think the cannon would be cool but its up to you Larry
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 17, 2004 10:56 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ddayomaha

Cool i'm liking it....but is that a pak I see...


No, it's a field gun.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 18, 2004 4:31 PM
Oh whoops!

Ok fine with that, can I add it to by sig now I finished my kit...pics soon I hope Sigh [sigh]
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Sunday, April 18, 2004 6:58 PM
I like that badge, Larry and I am giving it my vote!

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 18, 2004 10:35 PM
Ok guys, here's the progress so far from the world's slowest builder -- the second pic is with my painted but not weathered Panther (yes, from the group build -- STILL not done Sad [:(]) just to give you an idea of how big this bad boy was. It's the AFV Club kit. It's not a bad kit, but is a bit fiddly here and there. Anyway ....



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  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Sunday, April 18, 2004 11:44 PM
Wow, that's a big gun Larry.

Nice zim job on the Panther, did you do it yourself?

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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  • From: Sarepta, LA
Posted by Scorn on Monday, April 19, 2004 2:02 AM
I don't know if anyone replied to me yet, but I would like to join this build if there is still room and/or time...
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 19, 2004 2:35 AM
Hey Larry,

Dunno if the badge is official or not, but since I managed to finish this build I thought I'd try it on for size.

Fits nice!

Cheers, Andy!
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 19, 2004 8:15 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tigerman

Wow, that's a big gun Larry.


Can you imagine the Panther taking a direct hit from that thing? [:0]

QUOTE: Nice zim job on the Panther, did you do it yourself?


Thanks. Yes, I did it myself -- I put Mirage's zimm set on all by myself. Laugh [(-D]

So the badge thing is only if you finish the kit? Uh oh! [:0]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 19, 2004 8:25 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Scorn

I don't know if anyone replied to me yet, but I would like to join this build if there is still room and/or time...


Scorn, there is tons of time -- til July! And this is open to all. And the subject is a great weekender. Pick up a six pounder, build it over the weekend, paint it desert sand and you are done!

Guns IMO are intrinsically cool models for the collection because all of the guts of the weapons system are there to see. They are eye catchers, but people often neglect them. I hope this build will be just a little incentive for people to build and display guns, and maybe even the prime movers that hauled them, if they have the time and the inclination.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 19, 2004 8:30 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Andytee

Hey Larry,

Dunno if the badge is official or not, but since I managed to finish this build I thought I'd try it on for size.


Looks ok -- I don't know if it's official either! I just wanted to put something up for people who had finished the build and wanted to wear their badge proudly. It'd be easy enough to replace with something nicer -- I had thought that it should have a GIF of a howitzer firing .... Tongue [:P]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 19, 2004 8:36 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Larry_Dunn
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Guns IMO are intrinsically cool models for the collection because all of the guts of the weapons system are there to see. They are eye catchers, but people often neglect them. I hope this build will be just a little incentive for people to build and display guns, and maybe even the prime movers that hauled them, if they have the time and the inclination.


Couldn't agree more. Love building artillery models. They can be quick and easy - just over a week for my OOB Pak 40 including the little dio - or you can spend months jazzing up an 88 or something with all the aftermarket hoopla. And so much variety - from a 2pdr pop gun through to that monstorous sewer tunnel or whatever it is that you are building! Big Smile [:D]

And all the detail is right out there where it can be seen! Great stuff - and great idea for a build! Might even squeeze in another model between now and July...

Cheers, Andy!
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 19, 2004 8:40 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Larry_Dunn

- I had thought that it should have a GIF of a howitzer firing .... Tongue [:P]


Thumbs Up [tup] BRILLIANT! There must be somebody out there who can do that...
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 19, 2004 9:53 AM
Larry, your arty is looking sweet. I like the badge too...

Peace
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  • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posted by zokissima on Monday, April 19, 2004 10:16 AM
Wow, leave for a weekend, and two pages add up.
Well, I didn't get anything done this weekend, except starting the basework for the dio. Got a lot of catching up to play this week.

QUOTE: AFV Club 155mm (with M4 HST).

Wow, I've wanted to build this one forever. The long tom really does look like a massive gun. What can you say about the kit?
Where did you manage to find a high speed tractor?
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 19, 2004 8:13 PM
Hey Scorn sorry bout not answering you! I am almost positive you can still join

I'm adding the badge to my sig as well I finished the demag w/ neb 42
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 19, 2004 8:19 PM
I second the motion to carry the field gun badge for this build.

PS. I will be starting my 3.7mm Pak 36 this weekend. Using the Tamiya kit with the Krupp Protze but will be using the old (1995) Eduard set for the gun. The Protze will have some extra detail from scratch 'cause there is not much in the new Eduard set that you can't do yourself with patience.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 19, 2004 8:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by petbat

I second the motion to carry the field gun badge for this build.

PS. I will be starting my 3.7mm Pak 36 this weekend. Using the Tamiya kit with the Krupp Protze but will be using the old (1995) Eduard set for the gun. The Protze will have some extra detail from scratch 'cause there is not much in the new Eduard set that you can't do yourself with patience.


Ahh the krupp protze by Tamiya its a great kit and I made it into my first dio,

If you want to see pics just go to www.gateswasher.com/armor


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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 19, 2004 8:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by zokissima


QUOTE: AFV Club 155mm (with M4 HST).

Wow, I've wanted to build this one forever. The long tom really does look like a massive gun. What can you say about the kit?
Where did you manage to find a high speed tractor?


See my webpage for some 1st impressions & etc. The only thing I didn't note is that the tires are very, very post-war, in fact even post-Korean War.
Also see caveats about being under construction (the web page).
I'll have an update in about a week, as I've really started spreading some glue recently.

The M4 is (was) available from either Mission Models or RJ Enterprises.

Larry got the coup -- he got the Mack NO which I really wanted.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:24 AM
I like the group build badge and have suggestions to tweak it slightly... :)

1. shorten the legs of the gun and move it to the right to show more barrel and dont let the barrel touch the left side of the badge

2. make all the letters the same size font (just looks odd to me)

Good badge, that's what I had was voting for all along (not a pak or 88) :)

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:13 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by muzzleflash88

I like the group build badge and have suggestions to tweak it slightly... :)

1. shorten the legs of the gun and move it to the right to show more barrel and dont let the barrel touch the left side of the badge

2. make all the letters the same size font (just looks odd to me)

Good badge, that's what I had was voting for all along (not a pak or 88) :)




Not to be presumptious (where did I read that recently?Big Smile [:D]) but maybe like so....



Its still 90% Larry's, but I reckon somebody smarter than me could trick it up a bit more still.

Edit: The gun's still off-center or something, isn't it......
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 8:18 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by muzzleflash88

I like the group build badge and have suggestions to tweak it slightly... :)

2. make all the letters the same size font (just looks odd to me)



Hmmm, I used the same font for all the letters .... Maybe it's an illusion based on the space allotted to the letters?

But it was just a suggestion! If anyone wants to make changes and so on, please do!

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  • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posted by zokissima on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 8:35 AM
The badge looks good Larry. Now, on to earning it.. Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:38 PM
Dday....I think I've seen your site before. Nice work.

Yeah the Krupp is nice for it's vintage. I built the original personnel carrier version when it was first produced in the 70's (showing my age again).

As for the badge, I like it as is, but if you want symmetry, the wheel needs to be positioned centrally in the badge. This will also mean that the barrel and trailing legs will need to be the same length. Another option is to have the gun barrel raised more, then insert a small 'O4" or '2004' vertically in front of the field piece. This will balance out the sit of the gun components.

Nice work so far guys. Enjoying some catch up in the forum posts, and the pics have my fingers getting itchy to start my own.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:03 PM
I was gonna stay out of the badge debate (I like Larry's) but I decided to try and make one...

...and got carried away. Tongue [:P]


I made three attempts that are showable and
I'm not saying which is my fav of these threeTongue [:P]
Suggestions,comments and critiques welcome.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:58 PM
Shoot they all look good claymore I say the people pick the one they would like to use since you got 3 and larry hes 1seems all bases are covered.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:19 PM
D'oh. I like Larry's and all of Dereks. I do like the idea of having 2004 on there.

I am weathering my SiG33 at the minute. Going to tuck it into a little vignette I think. A dirty great Panther just jumped in the way of me building a towing vehicle.

Matt
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