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Posted by DoogsATX on Sunday, February 26, 2012 2:27 AM

Speaking of midnight oil...had one of those hurry up and wait moments with the Fiat tonight, so on to the Hayate!

First, interior got greened...here's the seat. Apologies, the iPhone does stupid things to color (why won't they offer white balance controls?)

Next, the IP in this kit is...a decal. Unacceptable. Made copies of the decal sheet, broke out the punch and die set:

Not much, but off to the races!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Saturday, February 25, 2012 9:34 PM

Wow wood drop tanks! I would've lost money on that bet ,learn something new everyday! Doogs nice seat, and yes RAF interior green is a very close match . Bsyamato it looking great keep burning the midnight oil!

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A strange green mixing
Posted by bsyamato on Saturday, February 25, 2012 8:02 PM

This morning (it's about 3:00 am ,can't say this night) mixed some color for the upper zero surfaces, trying to obtain a correct zero green:

and just after painted

Another layer and some correction to the mix seems to be needed Hmm mhh...

 

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Posted by bsyamato on Saturday, February 25, 2012 10:03 AM

Nice things about fuel tanks

Detailed finally wells

don't worry about the green color, i just primed wells and covers with interior green

 

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Posted by bsyamato on Friday, February 24, 2012 6:16 PM

DoogsATX

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Also, for kicks, I found this on the internet today:

Japanese Fart Scrolls

Talk about Japanese "air power"...

http://www.tofugu.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/fart-header.jpg

just eat a midnight hamburgher with tobasco ,mushrooms salsa and others stuffs inside, after dinner: triyng to not emulate this power on workbench, lots of little pieces on Hmm

Working right now on the zero, today needed a third layer of grey to ensure final look and now working on wells, will post pictures tomorrow 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, February 24, 2012 3:24 PM

Doogs:

I wasn't disagreeing with you, I'd never heard that and just assumed that they were metal tanks.

Thanks, I learned something new today Big Smile

 

Funny I've been to the Arawasi website but didn't see those. Of course that was a year or two ago. Very cool find! 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Friday, February 24, 2012 3:16 PM

Gamera

 

 Reasoned:

 

That'd make great nose art for a Betty. Wink

 

 

LOL

Good find Doogs!

Interesting, I wasn'a aware of the wooden drop tanks. Most I've seen are the underside colour. As you said painting them slightly lighter or darker or adding a slight tint sounds like a good plan to me.

Proof from the internets! 

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, February 24, 2012 2:38 PM

Reasoned

That'd make great nose art for a Betty. Wink

LOL

Good find Doogs!

Interesting, I wasn'a aware of the wooden drop tanks. Most I've seen are the underside colour. As you said painting them slightly lighter or darker or adding a slight tint sounds like a good plan to me.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Reasoned on Friday, February 24, 2012 2:34 PM

That'd make great nose art for a Betty. Wink

Science is the pursiut of knowledge, faith is the pursuit of wisdom.  Peace be with you.

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Posted by DoogsATX on Friday, February 24, 2012 1:38 PM

Excellent! I'll track down some pics of Nakajima interior green and probably use Tamiya's interior green - I've got enough of their paints that I can "push" it a bit in pretty much any direction if needed. 

Looking around, I learned that IJAAF tanks were actually made out of wood or bamboo, not metal (due to shortages). Not quite as crazy as the USAAF paper tanks, but still, interesting. Also have references to the tanks being painted some kind of Japanese version of olive drab. Basically - I find tanks the same color as the underside dreadfully boring and thought it'd be interesting to do something a bit "off". Example, if the underside is that light green-grey color, using straight-up light gray for the tanks.

I did find a few references to yellow, but nothing connecting them to the Ki-84. Course, I'm pondering painting the thing blue, so...

Also, for kicks, I found this on the internet today:

Japanese Fart Scrolls

Talk about Japanese "air power"...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, February 24, 2012 11:40 AM

Doog: Yeah night and day difference between seats there.

Cockpit paint: Every reference I've seen for Nakajima aircraft like the Ki-84 give a greyish- green colour. It looks very much to me like RAF interior green. Mitsubishi a/c had a yellowish-green that looks very much like USAAF interior green which may be what's confusing you here. There may have been some Ki-84s with NM cockpits but I haven't seen any references to them. Personally I'd go with Nakajima interior green if you can find it in your paint brand- if not RAF interior green should be close enough not to make much difference.

Drop tanks: Most references I've seen show them painted the underside colour. Some may have been left in NM aluminum as well. I've seen the yellow tanks but not sure where and when they were used. Maybe someone else here has more information.

Anyway, my two cents for what little it's worth.

BTW: 'The Bug' is looking great!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Friday, February 24, 2012 11:16 AM

Question(s) for the group:

1 - Cockpit color for the Ki-84? I've been getting at least three conflicting choices - silver, light gray, or something similar to interior green. Is any one right? Are they all right? 

2 - Drop tanks. The Tamiya instructions (which I so don't trust BTW) say to paint them the exterior color, but I can swear I've seen builds where the tanks look like they were painted with Tamiya XF-4 Yellow Green. Seems to me that'd be a lot more visually striking...any habits of drop tank painting out there I should know about?

Sorry - Japanese aircraft noob...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Friday, February 24, 2012 11:05 AM

Got a small start last night primering the cockpit bits.

Have to say, I'm VERY happy I decided to spring for the Ultracast seat!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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  • From: italy
Posted by bsyamato on Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:18 AM

LOL i''ve about 3 dioramas started and never fiinshed for the same problem Big Smile one sci-fi in 1/144 with too many planned thing on that is sleeping from 2007 Whistling

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:01 AM

bsyamato

ops i forget to specify .. yes, 1/72, i'll put some more picture soon, want to use on some raf planes, also have the 1/72 preiser set about luftwaffe. Just waiting to get the courage to do a diorama Sad

Wow, I'd assumed he was 1/48th until I remembered you do 1/72nd. That is some great detail, most 1/48th pilots I have aren't that well done.

The diorama sounds really cool, love to see you build it. I've started several but keep adding stuff to them and they get so big I never finish most of them Tongue Tied

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Posted by bsyamato on Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:49 AM

ops i forget to specify .. yes, 1/72, i'll put some more picture soon, want to use on some raf planes, also have the 1/72 preiser set about luftwaffe. Just waiting to get the courage to do a diorama Sad

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:18 AM

Bsyamato: Nice! Very smooth clean paint job there. Looks like you're back on track.

Is that RAF pilot 1/72nd scale? If so that is some really sharp molding.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by bsyamato on Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:01 AM

here some update:

two coats of mix grey, waiting for total dry bet seems enough

painted others grey pieces too and the engine cover with mix of semigloss black and dark blue (instructions says 50/50 % but seems incorrect, i used a little percentage of blue)

Out of topic, if you need good raf pilots try the new revell set

some poses allowed and good and not soft plastic easy to gut, clear and modding. The luftwaffe set probbly at same good standard.

Now left to detil the main wells and retouch the removed paint from frames and the rest of work wil be "standard " finishing work (if no more bad things will come Hmm )

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Posted by bsyamato on Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:54 AM

Reasoned

I don't know bsyamato, that "weathered" finish looks almost plausible.

Yes but unwanted Smile

Trey the correction seems accomplished, the mixed grey seems grip good withouth the primer but i'll leave the color dry for two or more days for sureness. Just today weather finishe a  3 heavy raining days!

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:06 PM

Bsyamato ,man really hate to see that! I'm confident you'll get it sorted tho my Man!

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Posted by Reasoned on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:44 PM

I don't know bsyamato, that "weathered" finish looks almost plausible.

Science is the pursiut of knowledge, faith is the pursuit of wisdom.  Peace be with you.

On the Tarmac: 1/48 Revell P-38

In the Hanger: A bunch of kits

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Posted by bsyamato on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:19 PM

Thanx guys, problem i hope resolved, after removed the bad paint and cleaned even the panel lines (and lots of swearing because even parts of frame paint was removed) ,i brushed on the camouflage grey mix withouth priming more Super Angry He seems working. Plastic seems to work good with my mineral thinner .

I forget about but the zero is really heavy for the kit dimension Indifferent 

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Posted by carsanab on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:49 AM

been there...done that....sounds like my Oscar Bang Head

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:11 AM

Bsyamato: ACK! What you've got done looks so good, and then have to redo everything. Gosh I'd be really mad. Good luck to you my friend. I've been angry with having to sand down and repaint the tail of my P-47N, I should be happy the whole paint job didn't go bad. Crying

Still, as good a modeler as you are I know you'll be able to fix it. Yes

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Posted by Hercmech on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:04 AM

Ohh man that sucks!


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Posted by bsyamato on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:55 AM

two steps back with the zero!!! Bang Head

the under greay used as primer, probably for the humidity of these days, was not perfect dry after 4 days, so i prefered to remove Boo Hoo

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Posted by bsyamato on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:28 AM

carsanab

 

 troublemaker66:

 

 

 carsanab:

 

 troublemaker66:

I`ve built both the Kate and Jill kits. They`re really nice, detailed kits. I do want to pick up the Nachimo offering just out of curiosity. I built the Jake...wasn`t a great nor horrible kit but I think the only kit of that aircraft in 1:48.

 

 

 I had so many fit issues with the Jake that I gave up....that and the kit was more toy like....no interior to speak of...still I agree the 1/48 option...even with all my negative comments about it I bought another not too long ago...I figuered I will add a Val cockpit tub....they should be close enough since they were both Aichi...until some one comes out with a new one(hint...hint....Hasegawa...wink wink...Tamiya)

 

Wink wink...Great Wall Hobbies...may have a slim chance there...WinkWink

 

 

 

anyone.....well except Classic Airframes and Special Hobby...oh and Lindberg...

sounds like my old lindberg hh-3 helicopter was not the only bad kit from this brand Hmm

Trey waiting for more exciting builds about jill and kate Toast 

 

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  • From: Borlando Fla home of the rat
Posted by TREYZX10R on Monday, February 20, 2012 7:07 PM

tigerman

 TREYZX10R:

Bsyamato its really looking great ! Nice birds Doogs! Its getting the itch to bust another Jap bird outa the stash started

 

Trey, have you done a Kate or Jill yet?

Eric ,not yet but would like to do both! I've got a floaty thing that I might do next tho we'll seeWhistling

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Monday, February 20, 2012 4:43 PM

carsanab

 troublemaker66:

 carsanab:

 troublemaker66:

I`ve built both the Kate and Jill kits. They`re really nice, detailed kits. I do want to pick up the Nachimo offering just out of curiosity. I built the Jake...wasn`t a great nor horrible kit but I think the only kit of that aircraft in 1:48.

 

 I had so many fit issues with the Jake that I gave up....that and the kit was more toy like....no interior to speak of...still I agree the 1/48 option...even with all my negative comments about it I bought another not too long ago...I figuered I will add a Val cockpit tub....they should be close enough since they were both Aichi...until some one comes out with a new one(hint...hint....Hasegawa...wink wink...Tamiya)

 

Wink wink...Great Wall Hobbies...may have a slim chance there...WinkWink

 

anyone.....well except Classic Airframes and Special Hobby...oh and Lindberg...

...don`t forget Modelcraft...don`t want anymore kits out there like their F-82....

Len Pytlewski

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Posted by carsanab on Monday, February 20, 2012 4:12 PM

troublemaker66

 carsanab:

 troublemaker66:

I`ve built both the Kate and Jill kits. They`re really nice, detailed kits. I do want to pick up the Nachimo offering just out of curiosity. I built the Jake...wasn`t a great nor horrible kit but I think the only kit of that aircraft in 1:48.

 

 I had so many fit issues with the Jake that I gave up....that and the kit was more toy like....no interior to speak of...still I agree the 1/48 option...even with all my negative comments about it I bought another not too long ago...I figuered I will add a Val cockpit tub....they should be close enough since they were both Aichi...until some one comes out with a new one(hint...hint....Hasegawa...wink wink...Tamiya)

 

Wink wink...Great Wall Hobbies...may have a slim chance there...WinkWink

anyone.....well except Classic Airframes and Special Hobby...oh and Lindberg...

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