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That's Amore (Italian GB) Jan 1-June 30 2012

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Posted by Nathan T on Tuesday, January 3, 2012 3:13 PM

[quote user="Italian Starfighter"]

Like I've just announced this is my CR 42 Falco.......Ciao Enric

http://www.pdani.it/public/KIKKO/cr42%20rid0.JPG
http://www.pdani.it/public/KIKKO/cr42rid.JPG

Sweet, looking forward to how this classic airframes kit goes together. I've never built one yet and i'm sure my Macchi CA kit wont go together the same as my traditional hasegawas do

 

 

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Posted by Italian Starfighter on Tuesday, January 3, 2012 4:03 PM

Hi Nathan,this Cr 42 is an old kit (short run) that was improved during 1995 by resin parts and pe.So it's very far from your traditional Hase............Ciao Enrico

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, January 3, 2012 8:16 PM

Thanks Stik and others. I'll probably gauge that color and match as close as I can to Tamiya or Model Master. Does Vallejo make anything.

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 Eric 

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Posted by bufflehead on Tuesday, January 3, 2012 11:55 PM

Oh, I'm tempted Eric, but I've stuck my GB nose out too far, too many times!  I don't want to join only to disappoint; I'll pass on this one, but I'll definitely stop by and check things out! 

Abbia divertimento!

Ernest

Last Armor Build - 1/35 Dragon M-26A1, 1/35 Emhar Mk.IV Female

     

Last Aircraft Builds - Hobby Boss 1/72 F4F Wildcat & FW-190A8

     

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, January 4, 2012 12:07 AM

Oh Ernest. If you burn out on other projects, you know where to find us.

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 Eric 

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, January 4, 2012 12:53 AM

DoogsATX

Alright gents, color questions time...

Answer time.

http://www.stormomagazine.com/RegiaAeronauticaColorsinWWII_3a.htm

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, January 4, 2012 1:51 AM

tigerman

Thanks Stik and others. I'll probably gauge that color and match as close as I can to Tamiya or Model Master. Does Vallejo make anything.

I want to say i have Tamiya and Humbrol matches for the Polly Scale shade. I dont have many Vallejo paints, so I cant answer for their line. I will take a look tomorrow.

 

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Posted by the real red baron on Wednesday, January 4, 2012 1:19 PM

Sorry, tiger man I'll have to forfit. Too many build on at the same time, I've got too complete others first.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Wednesday, January 4, 2012 1:53 PM

bondoman

 

 DoogsATX:

 

Alright gents, color questions time...

 

Answer time.

 

http://www.stormomagazine.com/RegiaAeronauticaColorsinWWII_3a.htm

Excellent. I note that Giallo Mimetico 4 lists RAF Middlestone as an equivalent, and my handy iModelKit iPhone app shows Model Master Afrika Mustard as another match for FS 30266. Looks like that yellow-tan color range is about right. 

Also read elsewhere that Model Master Pale Green is a good match for Verde Anticorrosione. Thinking I may try mixing RAF interior green with US interior green or green chromate and seeing how that works, too.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, January 4, 2012 2:04 PM

the real red baron

Sorry, tiger man I'll have to forfit. Too many build on at the same time, I've got too complete others first.

Sorry to hear it Baron. If you finish up, this build will be going for 5 months, so come on back.

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 Eric 

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Posted by telsono on Wednesday, January 4, 2012 2:57 PM

For verde anticorrosione you can also use British interior cockpit green they are quite close.

NATO Green is a close match to the Verde Olivia Scuro

Light Ghost Grey is also a close match to the Griggio Azzurro Chiarro 1

The tannish color used on Italian aircraft varies alot. Some are a sandy tan, to a sandy yellow. Its not standard as the aircraft manufacturers had to source out the paints for themselves, with predictable variations from paint company to paint company. So check the references carefully, some require a more brownish one, while others are a more yellowish (approximately yellow ochre) tint. You will see references to chestnut brown if the tint has more of a brown base than a yellow.

There are some interesting color patterns, One, the fried egg pattern seen on some early versions of the C.202 including the prototype was a result in an error in printing the camoflage rules. Instead of having the tannish color as the primary color, the dark olive green was again used as the main color with the tan and red brown as the subordinate colors. So, you had a dark green with yellow brown blotches that had a red brown center blotch. This resemble fried eggs scattered all over the aircraft. Later in 1943 this pattern was resurrected to be used for armor. Notably, on late model Semovente's and the P.40. Of course the officials said that was the rules that they meant to have and there was no error in the printing, although the rules were changed soon afterwards.

The FIAT G.50 and the Macchi C.205V had notable color patterns after the armistice, FIAT with the "Patchwork" and "Lizard". Both took on the Luftwaffe patterns as well, but one pattern they shared was a "Herringbone" patern of the dark olive green and the yellow brown. there are even documentation of partial patterns of the "Herringbone" on some C.205V's 

I did build that old Classic Airframes C.R. 42 before and the PE can be a bear as well as the fit as it was a short run centrifugal molded kit. but it does come off very well.

For myself, I would choose the 1/48 Classic Airframe Re.2001.

FIAT and Macchi incorporated the intial of the designer with their aircraft designation.

For example:

FIAT CR. 42 is FIAT (manufacturer) C (Caccia - fighter), R (Rosatelli - designer) 42 (design number)

With the BR. 20 the B refers to bomber, Bombardiere Rosatelli, same designer as the CR. 42.

Macchi C.200 is Macchi (manufacture), C (Castoldi - designer), 200 (design number).

Its Macchi C.200, not Macchi M.C. 200, but can be shortened to M.C.200 as the M is for Macchi. many times in references the aircraft are just mentioned as C.200.

Other companies didn't mention the designer.

Mike T.

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Posted by bsyamato on Wednesday, January 4, 2012 2:58 PM

it's really strange for me to read colors in italian here Huh?

need to complete 3 or 4 kits (and leave space on the workbench) before to start the veltro but are all in good progress stage

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, January 4, 2012 3:05 PM

stikpusher

 tigerman:

Thanks Stik and others. I'll probably gauge that color and match as close as I can to Tamiya or Model Master. Does Vallejo make anything.

 

I want to say i have Tamiya and Humbrol matches for the Polly Scale shade. I don't have many Vallejo paints, so I cant answer for their line. I will take a look tomorrow.

I went thru my paints to compare a short while ago. Humbrol 81 Lt Yellow is an almost perfect match for Giallo Mimetico 2.  I think that is why I picked it up earlier. Humbrol tins are less expensive than Polly Scale bottles, and Humbrol enamels are my preferred brand whenever possible. I don't have the Tamiya equivalent in my paint locker, but according to IPMS Stockholm, Tamiya XF-4 is a match for the Humbrol shade.

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/stuff_eng_colorcharts_humbrol.htm

I also pulled my AB41/42 out of the stash and on to the ready line....Stick out tongue anything for Sophia and Gina...Wink

 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, January 4, 2012 5:04 PM

I prefer enamels only when brush painting and love humbrol for that. That's why I preferTamiya or MM for airbrushing.

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, January 5, 2012 3:10 AM

Great Fubar moment of the day. I was checking another site for some painting ideas, when I realized that they glued a piece that I did on the front hull another way. Well, after a quick glance at the box art and directions, I did indeed glued it on wrong. Of course it was settled on pretty well. So, I put some thinner on it and waited. I stuck an exacto to pop it out and that I did. I launched it into never-never land. I heard it bounce off of things, but the room is packed with junk. I couldn't find it tonight, so I'll try again tomorrow.

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 Eric 

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, January 5, 2012 8:10 PM

Update: No luck finding my piece, but I'm cleaning out the room for Goodwill, so I hope to locate it. P'sing me off.

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Posted by Nathan T on Thursday, January 5, 2012 9:35 PM

[quote user="tigerman"]

Update: No luck finding my piece, but I'm cleaning out the room for Goodwill, so I hope to locate it. P'sing me off.

that sucks, can you scratch it? sometimes the time you waste looking you could've made a new one.
I'm dying to start my Macchi, i washed up all the plastic and resin, got a few ideas for mixing the interior color, but i gotta finish my eduard fw 190 and arado 234 1st, should start next week with the macchi.

 

 

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, January 5, 2012 11:45 PM

What luck! I found my piece. It was nowhere that I thought it could be. It was sitting on a shelf. I mean, it really flew and I heard it clank off of at two to three things. So I glued that on and called it a day. Great day. Wink

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 Eric 

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Posted by bsyamato on Friday, January 6, 2012 4:59 AM

tigerman

Great Fubar moment of the day. I was checking another site for some painting ideas, when I realized that they glued a piece that I did on the front hull another way. Well, after a quick glance at the box art and directions, I did indeed glued it on wrong. Of course it was settled on pretty well. So, I put some thinner on it and waited. I stuck an exacto to pop it out and that I did. I launched it into never-never land. I heard it bounce off of things, but the room is packed with junk. I couldn't find it tonight, so I'll try again tomorrow.

ù

LOL you simulated an ufo Big Smile 

being to think that best place for a workbench is at the center of a complete empty hangar, withouth carpet or other similar things

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, January 6, 2012 7:24 AM

tigerman

What luck! I found my piece. It was nowhere that I thought it could be. It was sitting on a shelf. I mean, it really flew and I heard it clank off of at two to three things. So I glued that on and called it a day. Great day. Wink

Disaster averted!! Yes

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Posted by Shellback on Friday, January 6, 2012 1:23 PM

Eric , good to read you found your piece .Yes My workbench sits in my basement on a concrete floor . I clean the floor weekly so there is not a build up of junk on it (note , however i do now have 3 dogs and a cat .......sooooooo ) but its still  a 50 / 50 chance that i'll find a part down there . Like you i sometimes find the part a few days later up on a book shelf !

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, January 6, 2012 1:25 PM

Thank you Vance. 

I hope my barrel gets here soon. I also ordered some paint. 

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 Eric 

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, January 6, 2012 2:52 PM

tigerman

What luck! I found my piece. It was nowhere that I thought it could be. It was sitting on a shelf. I mean, it really flew and I heard it clank off of at two to three things. So I glued that on and called it a day. Great day. Wink

Hooray for Tigerman! I have had that happen before. I actually had one part that was missing for years that turned up in a most unexpected place long after it had been given up for lost.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by bsyamato on Friday, January 6, 2012 4:49 PM

Shellback

Eric , good to read you found your piece .Yes My workbench sits in my basement on a concrete floor . I clean the floor weekly so there is not a build up of junk on it (note , however i do now have 3 dogs and a cat .......sooooooo ) but its still  a 50 / 50 chance that i'll find a part down there . Like you i sometimes find the part a few days later up on a book shelf !

you're lucky guys for lost pieces . I lost a piece (complete, paint weathering etc) of a kit other day and already replaced by a scratched one. 

Another time i lost a finished an helicopter tailrotor... scratched another and foud the original piece few months after the helicopter was complete

Not resisted to start the Veltro then i started the surgery stage:

Watching to the walls i was sure that the kit had some detail here Indifferent

remembered after that i had erased it because was too poor. Erased before to join the gb

actual work

Completely removed the wells caps, real one have no covers and lots of things are visible from there.

Also thinned the visible surface for better thickness

fuselage and wings involved too for the correct wells

complete surgery for today, need again to thin the wings surface up the flaps, same flaps will be replaced by very thin evergreen sheets

all is for today 

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, January 6, 2012 6:16 PM

Thanks guys. I once found a piece some 20 plus years after I lost it. It was really hiding behind an old work bench between some scrap wood at my old childhood home. I guess I didn't look well enough.

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 Eric 

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, January 6, 2012 7:33 PM

Got my AM barrel today. Very nice. Pics to follow.

I have to laugh. The kit I picked up for $5 at a show and the barrel cost me $12! WTF? The lenses need replaced as maybe the tracks, but I'm not sinking anymore money into it. Sorry all. Wink

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 Eric 

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Posted by jgeratic on Saturday, January 7, 2012 1:54 AM

Looks like I experienced some of that "Amore" luck Eric had.  Previous night started the interior of the L3/33 and while trying to trim this really small round part, it slipped between my two fingers into the rug.  Spent maybe 20 minutes trying to locate it.  Next  night continued working on the kit and lost a second part.  Ended up finding both within a couple minutes.

Here is a progress shot (about half way through with the insides) with a 1/35 Hornet figure and a sewing pin for size comparison.  I'll say this, the kit box is quite huge compared to what the finished model will be.  It is packed with detail and really don't need to do much scratch building, if any at all, for the interior.  If one excludes the tracks, close to half the build is the interiors.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, January 7, 2012 3:08 AM

Congrats Jack. Sometimes you lose a piece and usually find the previous lost one, or that's how it works for me.

Awesome job on the figure. Love the flesh tones.

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 Eric 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Saturday, January 7, 2012 4:15 PM

Loving the part-finding karma going on here! Only part I've ever full on lost was a clear piece off a LaGG-3 canopy. Also just the thing I couldn't proceed without. I think it the future I may come back to it as a crash dio, but since we've moved, yeah that part's long gone. Never did show up, either.

Ended up futzing about with the Fiat last night. Turns out I took a resin part for a pour stub when it wasn't, and now the gear bays are going to be...interesting. Also got started removing the flaps, elevators and rudder. A massive task consider how thick this friggin' plastic is! Probably took me 45 minuts to get one flap out.

Also did a test fit of the canopy last night, and...uh:

First thought was "great...just great". Then I compared it against the actual thing. If you look at the back of the canopy, it's got the exact same gap! Guess that Mediterranean climate negates the need for, you know, a fully closed canopy?

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by Nathan T on Saturday, January 7, 2012 4:24 PM

You're right Doogs, pretty sure its supposed to be like that. Heck my Macchi only has a windscreen and sides, no top to the canopy. Guess the Italians got claustrophobic in bubble canopies.

 

 

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