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Posted by Gamera on Friday, December 14, 2012 7:57 PM

Yikes! Good luck Dom

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Friday, December 14, 2012 7:42 PM

I'm afraid I have to agree with Ken on this one.   I hate guys like this.  Corporate parasites.  And of course, their job is never in danger.  It always just makes me sick when you have someone who works his behind off, trying to do the best job he can.  And then some uppity yuppie in management, who probably has never done and honest day's worth of real honest work in his life, goes looking for excuses to fire the guy with the real skills, to save money so he can get his big fat bonus for saving the company money by firing the good worker, just so the yuppie can get another new BMW or other yuppie-mobile that year.  THIS is the ugly side of capitalism...  Don't worry too much Dom.  You have a unique set of skills, I'd start shopping around to other businesses who may need them.

Rich

Son Of Medicine Man

Bockscar

Sure Rich, I'ld love to have one, and a couple of Tupolevs, the kits i posted, and a few more.

I'm going to coast for a while.....our firm has hired a consultant, and they want both a job description and, get this, a "what we really do" description. Does that sound like a consultant, or what?

Dom

Oh for crying out loud Dom!  Are you kidding?  After already having your pay reduced now you have to deal with this?  No, that does not sound like a consultant.  The name that comes to mind is hatchet man!  Does he have body guards?  That just totally sucks!

Ken

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, December 14, 2012 7:22 PM

Bockscar

Sure Rich, I'ld love to have one, and a couple of Tupolevs, the kits i posted, and a few more.

I'm going to coast for a while.....our firm has hired a consultant, and they want both a job description and, get this, a "what we really do" description. Does that sound like a consultant, or what?

Dom

Oh for crying out loud Dom!  Are you kidding?  After already having your pay reduced now you have to deal with this?  No, that does not sound like a consultant.  The name that comes to mind is hatchet man!  Does he have body guards?  That just totally sucks!

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Friday, December 14, 2012 6:51 PM

Sparrowhyperion

Dom, you reminded me I have a 1/48 MIG 25.  It's half of that dual Monogram/Revell kit that they put out in the 80s I think.  I need to see if I can get Deb to go to storage and get it someday.  No instructions or decals, but it's a simple kit and I can always find some cheap AM decals.  Definitely one brute of an aircraft.  I remember how when the final specs came out of the east on it, that everyone on the joint chiefs was having a fit with the egg on their faces about overreacting to what they were "guessing" were the specs.  Of course, if they hadn't overreacted, we may have never had the F-15 and F-14.

Sure Rich, I'ld love to have one, and a couple of Tupolevs, the kits i posted, and a few more.

I'm going to coast for a while.....our firm has hired a consultant, and they want both a job description and, get this, a "what we really do" description. Does that sound like a consultant, or what?

Dom

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Posted by Bockscar on Friday, December 14, 2012 6:46 PM

Gamera

MikeM: Thanks! It's pretty easy, DoogsATX linked an article he found on how to do it and I just followed him.

1). Paint model gloss black.

2). Paint model with Alclad airframe aluminum. It's shiny and the black will show slightly though making it kinda dark.

3). Paint the centers of the panels with Alclad aluminum. It's lighter and will give a highlight effect.

4). Spray a few misting coats of aluminum over the whole model to bring down the contrast till it looks right to you.

Doogs has more as well as photos on his website, I think it's linked on the bottom of his posts.

Actually my MiG-25 is the old kit Revell kit, I think it's the same one that came in the box with I think a F-15. This kit was designed back during the Cold War so the detail is pretty sparse. But it looks like a Foxbat to me!

Yeah, Cliff, thanks for mentioning that,

it is the only kit in town, unless there's another floating around.

The outline seems accurate, if the deatils are shallow.

FSM runs lessons on Alclad about every 18 months.

i think I picked up the basics from a tiny Connie build.

My recollection, is that the gloss black base coat is the trick,

if you get the plastic smooth enough, and the gloss on perfect,

the Alclad makes the bird pop. i've used it, and it is one of the thinnest

coatings of all time. When they say 'buffable', they mean 'just breath hard'

....lol.....looking forward to NMF in the future, when I am TDO.

Dom

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, December 14, 2012 12:57 PM

Np, it's pretty easy and it doesn't hurt to be a little sloppy - if you paint outside the lines it's still ok. Alclad is very easy to use, the big hassle is getting a perfect undercoat since the Alclad will show every little spot or blemish like a sore thumb.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by mikeymize on Friday, December 14, 2012 10:42 AM

Thanks for the response Cliff. I've been following Doogs for a while now and have always admired his work. I'll check out the link. After my last NMF fiasco on the MiG I need to try a different approach! Working on my Stuka now so I will most likely try it on my Academy F-86 next year.

"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time".


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Posted by Gamera on Friday, December 14, 2012 8:07 AM

MikeM: Thanks! It's pretty easy, DoogsATX linked an article he found on how to do it and I just followed him.

1). Paint model gloss black.

2). Paint model with Alclad airframe aluminum. It's shiny and the black will show slightly though making it kinda dark.

3). Paint the centers of the panels with Alclad aluminum. It's lighter and will give a highlight effect.

4). Spray a few misting coats of aluminum over the whole model to bring down the contrast till it looks right to you.

Doogs has more as well as photos on his website, I think it's linked on the bottom of his posts.

Actually my MiG-25 is the old kit Revell kit, I think it's the same one that came in the box with I think a F-15. This kit was designed back during the Cold War so the detail is pretty sparse. But it looks like a Foxbat to me!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by mikeymize on Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:23 PM

Cliff, that Jug looks great already. It looks as though you pre-shaded; I love the look. I've never done it before but now that I finally got a good airbrush I'm thinking of trying it on my Stuka. What type of paint was used for the NMF? because it looks very realistic.

"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time".


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  • From: Toledo Area OH
Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Thursday, December 13, 2012 8:43 PM

Dom, you reminded me I have a 1/48 MIG 25.  It's half of that dual Monogram/Revell kit that they put out in the 80s I think.  I need to see if I can get Deb to go to storage and get it someday.  No instructions or decals, but it's a simple kit and I can always find some cheap AM decals.  Definitely one brute of an aircraft.  I remember how when the final specs came out of the east on it, that everyone on the joint chiefs was having a fit with the egg on their faces about overreacting to what they were "guessing" were the specs.  Of course, if they hadn't overreacted, we may have never had the F-15 and F-14.

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, December 13, 2012 8:13 PM

Thanks guys,

My favourite story when I was a three-year-old was

"The little Engine That could, I always like the clown!Clown

Dom

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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, December 13, 2012 8:05 PM

Bockscar

Wood?---probably had a burled walnut instrument panelWhistling

Dom

LMAO! Dom, you're hilarious, and probably right!  Big SmileYeah

Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, December 13, 2012 7:55 PM

Dom, you are too funny!  Big Smile 

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, December 13, 2012 7:49 PM

Jim:

Yeah, it looked like a tiny fox being chased by a huge hound. I don't think I

could build anything in 1/72 anymore. I'm really starting to love big kits.

It's a moot point for me, I'm not actually completing anything these days....

Maybe an 'unauthentic avionics hump looks like this:

Whistling

Ken:

You sure are handy, must be nice to have a new stove. Lucky mom you have. My MIL is getting back to normal, I have been making her dinner.

Cliff:

Great looking Jug! Very nice paneling/weathering work.

That Foxbat of yours is very cool:

and:

Russ:

"Great news, Ken! Please post a picture when you get it installed. Are you going to weather it lol? [D:]"

LOL.....Ken is buying aftermarket components for it....

Great work going on, that window you installed looks great!

I saw a documentary on MiG 25, I think it was on the Military Channel, and they mentioned

that to save weight they decided to TIG weld the titanium bulkhead/spar components together rather than use a fastener system, i.e. flanges and bolts. Wood?---probably had a burled walnut instrument panelWhistling

Dom

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, December 13, 2012 7:08 PM

Gamera

Ken: Congrads on the new stove, though now I'm sure the Mrs will complain that it does not match the fridge, the curtains etc and want an entirely new kitchen... 

Not sure there's much to see here but anyway. Here's the P-47D I'm building for Doogs' P-47 GB, about halfway though decaling her now: 

And the MiG-25 I'm working on for Dean's MiG GB over on the aircraft forum. Not the best fitting kit, started her about five years ago and just dusted her off and restarted: 

The figures I just laid down the flesh tones and there's not much to see. 

Nice paint on the Thunderbolt Cliff!  Looks really sharp!  Yes  Yes 

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:42 PM

Striker8241

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

Tonight I picked up our new stove.  It took a week longer for it to arrive than originally forecasted.  It took most of the evening just getting to the store, loading it on the truck, bringing it home, getting the ramps and the two wheel cart out of the shed, getting it out of the truck and into the house, putting the ramps and cart away, and then unpacking the stove.  On top of all that I had to stop by my Mom's house to take care of a few things.

Ken

Great news, Ken! Please post a picture when you get it installed. Are you going to weather it lol? [D:]

Russ

Now that's funny!  Big Smile  But now that you mentioned it, I will have to put a fresh coat of paint on the wall behind the stove before I install it!  It will be easier while the old stove is out before I put the new stove in.  I am going to wait and do it this Saturday.  I am still stopping by my Mom's house each evening after work and tonight is the first night this week I don't have a bunch of stuff waiting for me to do.  So I am going to do some work on my Phantom tonight!

Ken

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, December 13, 2012 11:21 AM

Thanks Russ! Not sure about parts being made of wood, they were almost entirely built of steel which amazed USAF and Japanese personal when we got our hands on one from a defector who flew it from Siberia to Japan. Aluminum loses it strength at  high temperatures  and the Soviets were apparently unable to fabricate the exotic alloys used in the SR-71 so they just used steel despite it's weight.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:35 AM

Gamera

Ken: Congrads on the new stove, though now I'm sure the Mrs will complain that it does not match the fridge, the curtains etc and want an entirely new kitchen... 

Not sure there's much to see here but anyway. Here's the P-47D I'm building for Doogs' P-47 GB, about halfway though decaling her now: 

And the MiG-25 I'm working on for Dean's MiG GB over on the aircraft forum. Not the best fitting kit, started her about five years ago and just dusted her off and restarted: 

The figures I just laid down the flesh tones and there's not much to see.

 

Great builds there, Cliff. Is it true that parts of the Mig-25 were made of wood?

Russ

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:28 AM

Ken: Congrads on the new stove, though now I'm sure the Mrs will complain that it does not match the fridge, the curtains etc and want an entirely new kitchen... 

Not sure there's much to see here but anyway. Here's the P-47D I'm building for Doogs' P-47 GB, about halfway though decaling her now: 

And the MiG-25 I'm working on for Dean's MiG GB over on the aircraft forum. Not the best fitting kit, started her about five years ago and just dusted her off and restarted: 

The figures I just laid down the flesh tones and there's not much to see. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, December 13, 2012 8:46 AM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

Tonight I picked up our new stove.  It took a week longer for it to arrive than originally forecasted.  It took most of the evening just getting to the store, loading it on the truck, bringing it home, getting the ramps and the two wheel cart out of the shed, getting it out of the truck and into the house, putting the ramps and cart away, and then unpacking the stove.  On top of all that I had to stop by my Mom's house to take care of a few things.

Ken

Great news, Ken! Please post a picture when you get it installed. Are you going to weather it lol? [D:]

Russ

 

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Posted by jimbot58 on Thursday, December 13, 2012 3:06 AM

Interesting little craft, the A-4, some people nicknamed it "Scooter". I have a couple in my stash, an old Testors E/F with an "authentic" avionics hump, though I'm not sure what an "un-authentic" avionics hump might look like! I also just recently picked up Airfix's A-4B/4P-no hump on this one. I don't know the quality of these little (1/72 scale of course) kits as I haven't really cracked them open. FSM is to do a benchtop review sometime soon for the Airfix kit. I had to have one as I always wanted a humpless version.

The A-4 looked so teeny when it went up against the F-14 in 'Top Gun'.

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:22 AM

Dude, i wouldnt recognise anything if i got smacked in the head with it. Itd just be a case of "WTF was that?"

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:22 PM

Gents:

Don't worry about keeping up, i am swamped, spent 2 hours helping MIL

tonight, and back at it tomorrow.....

Ken, only kidding....lol......

I wouldn't know a P-40 if Claire slapped me upside the head with it.....

but i recognize Glenn Curtiss....

Dom

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:22 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Gamera

Bockscar

Gosh Ken;

Love those planes, I found a very cheap MiG 17 in China,,,,,had to fly it home myself

with minimal training......almost go shot down over Alaska.......LMAO......

A deadly battle-proven machine.

Dom

So the movie 'Firefox' was based on you Dom? I always figured you look a lot like Clint Eastwood. Wink

Last night I painted a couple of gaming figures, slapped a few decals on a Tamiya P-47D, and did some sanding and built a few missiles for an old Revell MiG-25. 

ScorpyMike: Nice looking work on the A-4, I hadn't seen many photos of the NZ ultimate Skyhawk, cool plane! 

Hi Cliff,

If you get a chance, can you post some pictures?  I really enjoyed those pictures of your P-40!!

Ken

KeN:

You will be vastly disappointed in the promo marketing, as i never flew the P-40,

and they always forgot to cut-n-paste may face into those Claire Chennault  photos.....!!!

Dang, my media people, never get me out there enough...LOL

dom......dang....

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:19 PM

Hi Everyone,

Tonight I picked up our new stove.  It took a week longer for it to arrive than originally forecasted.  It took most of the evening just getting to the store, loading it on the truck, bringing it home, getting the ramps and the two wheel cart out of the shed, getting it out of the truck and into the house, putting the ramps and cart away, and then unpacking the stove.  On top of all that I had to stop by my Mom's house to take care of a few things.

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:09 PM

Gamera

Bockscar

Gosh Ken;

Love those planes, I found a very cheap MiG 17 in China,,,,,had to fly it home myself

with minimal training......almost go shot down over Alaska.......LMAO......

A deadly battle-proven machine.

Dom

So the movie 'Firefox' was based on you Dom? I always figured you look a lot like Clint Eastwood. Wink

Last night I painted a couple of gaming figures, slapped a few decals on a Tamiya P-47D, and did some sanding and built a few missiles for an old Revell MiG-25. 

ScorpyMike: Nice looking work on the A-4, I hadn't seen many photos of the NZ ultimate Skyhawk, cool plane! 

Hi Cliff,

If you get a chance, can you post some pictures?  I really enjoyed those pictures of your P-40!!

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:05 PM

Bockscar

Soviet influence?

lol

Yeah, figures Americans could put a huge hump like that on

an aeroplane, and improve it's statistics...LOL

Dom

Dom,

It is hard to keep up with your posts!  You are just too funny man!  You can make me laugh even on my worst day.  Big Smile  Thank you for that!

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:03 PM

Scorpiomikey

No worries, Oh and the little horizontal fins on the vertical stabiliser are there because when they took the hump off it messed with the aerodynamics, so they fixed it with the tiny fins.

Scorpio Mike,

It is obvious you know quite a bit about the Skyhawk!  Thank you for sharing that with us!

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:56 PM

Soviet influence?

lol

Yeah, figures Americans could put a huge hump like that on

an aeroplane, and improve it's statistics...LOL

Dom

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:31 PM

No worries, Oh and the little horizontal fins on the vertical stabiliser are there because when they took the hump off it messed with the aerodynamics, so they fixed it with the tiny fins.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

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