Bockscar

History Channel has a Horten 229 program tonight at 9:00.

Your channel line up is different than mine.  It is not on mine.

Mike, I realized after I sent that document to you that I need to add more to it, but that should be enough to get you going.  I am totally beat.  I had to work on the servers at work both Saturday and Sunday, so I did not have a weekend off.  And I will have to work again tomorrow night.

Ken

is it the one where northrop builds a replica and puts it in their wind tunnels?

EDIT: It may have been their radar testing thingy they use the test stealth.

History Channel has a Horten 229 program tonight at 9:00.

Striker8241

I'm staggered - I just looked at the stats for the B-52 Big Belly thread - it's only 4 pages long but has been viewed 2,348 times!

I think Rich, Ken and I have discussed a BUFF GB.....Didn't find one

in the old threads.

I'm staggered - I just looked at the stats for the B-52 Big Belly thread - it's only 4 pages long but has been viewed 2,348 times!

Thanks for that info Ken. Ill have to give it a go at some point.

Bockscar

Son Of Medicine Man

jimbot58

Did I hear a bell ringing? Oh look! An A-7 got its wings!

Awesome work again Jim!  Very nice!  And I like the joke too, very funny!   

Ken

Nice work Jim!

From where I am, A-7's always been a great looking ride. Some late model was supersonic, I always thought of it as a fixed wing Crusader, another old favourite of mine.

Dom

I had forgotten about the supersonic version of the A-7, after having read about it somewhere a while ago. Only existed as a prototype and powered by the same A/B engine as the F-15 and F-16. Read about it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_YA-7F

Another interesting fact is that the A-7D (and K) was used as a trainer for the F-117 program as the actual flights of the F-117's were extremely restricted due to the 'black' nature of the program. The 7's offered the pilots an approximate workload equal to that of the F-117's. Also there were not enough F-117's available for training at the time. You can also read some of the history of it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTV_A-7_Corsair_II

I just think the A-7 is an interesting plane, even if it was just slow!

Bockscar

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

I have the document done on how to make those ejection seat handles.  I had to spend twice as long as I intended this morning working on the servers at work and then I had to work at my Mom's house.  So I didn't have as much time to work on it that I thought I would.  With that said, I don't have any pictures in it, but I have the description on how to do it.  I will work on putting in the pictures later.  Anyone who wants a copy please PM me (I am down stairs on my laptop so I don't have everyone's email address here) and I will send it to you.

Ken

Ken;

Really looking forward to reading that!

Dom

I filled them with CA gel - if that isn't sat, I'll go with the plugs ...

Son Of Medicine Man

Nice work there Russ!!      But very sorry to hear about having to fill in those slots.    But at least you did catch it before you had the final finish on it!

Ken

Thanks, Ken!  Not to worry, bud - I've made worse mistakes ...  

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

I have the document done on how to make those ejection seat handles.  I had to spend twice as long as I intended this morning working on the servers at work and then I had to work at my Mom's house.  So I didn't have as much time to work on it that I thought I would.  With that said, I don't have any pictures in it, but I have the description on how to do it.  I will work on putting in the pictures later.  Anyone who wants a copy please PM me (I am down stairs on my laptop so I don't have everyone's email address here) and I will send it to you.

Ken

Really looking forward to reading that!

Dom

Son Of Medicine Man

jimbot58

Did I hear a bell ringing? Oh look! An A-7 got its wings!

Awesome work again Jim!  Very nice!  And I like the joke too, very funny!   

Ken

From where I am, A-7's always been a great looking ride. Some late model was supersonic, I always thought of it as a fixed wing Crusader, another old favourite of mine.

Dom

Striker8241

Dom, looks like I made a boo boo. I cut slots in the upper fuselage corresponding to the door hinges but in reality, there are none. Must have looked at the pictures wrong, or maybe I just had a bad day. You can see them in the post above, along the lip of the bomb bay. Now I'll have to fill them in

Russ

Thanks

Hi Everyone,

I have the document done on how to make those ejection seat handles.  I had to spend twice as long as I intended this morning working on the servers at work and then I had to work at my Mom's house.  So I didn't have as much time to work on it that I thought I would.  With that said, I don't have any pictures in it, but I have the description on how to do it.  I will work on putting in the pictures later.  Anyone who wants a copy please PM me (I am down stairs on my laptop so I don't have everyone's email address here) and I will send it to you.

Ken

jimbot58

Did I hear a bell ringing? Oh look! An A-7 got its wings!

Awesome work again Jim!  Very nice!  And I like the joke too, very funny!   

Ken

Bockscar

Striker8241

Hey Guys,

Here is a preliminary look at the bomb bay doors configured in load position. The detail on the door is only suggestive, not authentic. The only bomb bay detail I'm adding is the catwalk structure along the sides, since that's about all you will be able to see with the plane sitting on the ground

Russ

 

Russ;

I thought you were new to model building, but do correct me on that.

I can see how you know the subject and are handy with the materials. You didn't start yesterday, right....lol

When i checked my BUFF I realized I have just enough tolerance left over to cut the upper doors as you have described....I saw them, but never translated that info to the kit, lucky for me you pointed that out. You must have cut about 30 or so little ribs to finish the uppermost section of the belly doors? and re-cut the top hinges?

Russ, where did you get the catwalks, I'm guessing sheet stock, patience, and a drill?

Nice work on the bomb belly and bulkheads, You lined the inside of the lower doors with thin stock sheet right? And How come?

Thanks for explaining the Radome, I guess the Revel and Mono kits are exactly the same tooling after all....What with you in addition to this thread, we are turning into a scratch channel.....

Also, did you put in some scratch just behind the bomb belly, over the rear wheels.....your build is really shaping up man.....I hope you don't mind if I take some of your ideas....

Dom

Nice work there Russ!!      But very sorry to hear about having to fill in those slots.    But at least you did catch it before you had the final finish on it!

Ken

Ain't this bird pretty:

I always thought the A-7 was gorgeous.

It may not be as pretty as something like an F-14 or an F-18 but its still beautiful.

Ok Jim, ugly maybe but not quite as butt ugly as the A-10 or the Goblin!

Gamera

Hey nice work there Jim!

I would have said beautiful work but I'm not sure there's much beautiful about an A-7. 

What? You are calling the SLUFF ugly? Next you'll tell me the A-10 is not the most beautiful thing you ever saw or such planes as the XF-85 goblin:

Or this hansom devil here:

They are all beautiful.....in their creators eyes in any case....

Dom, looks like I made a boo boo. I cut slots in the upper fuselage corresponding to the door hinges but in reality, there are none. Must have looked at the pictures wrong, or maybe I just had a bad day. You can see them in the post above, along the lip of the bomb bay. Now I'll have to fill them in

Russ

Bockscar

Long replys are good when they have that much info.....tap on, tap on....

Thanks Russ.

I guess I missed that reinforcement part for the tail section, prawely still on the sprues.

The holes look right from 10 feet away, so they are right, look great from here.

Hey man, use anything I post up here, this has been a great thread for ideas.

I have to cut all those little ribs......need BBQ sauce for those.....lol...

Card-stock.....heck why not.......if you get a shot of your completed or in process upper belly with

the fuselage slots and the the stock you use for hinges....

I have to start scribing into the belly of the BUFF......cut those upper doors out, I'm thinking to cut straight in from the ground-plane axis, hop I don't run into the Belly bay walls, it will be only a few thou tolerance...

Thanks Russ, great work man.

is that a standard chromate green, or did you mix that?

 

Yeah, I was going to ask but you started that already, the little bay in front of the front wheel bays, did they put ordnance in there, or use it to drop Jane Fonda onto a power plant in Hanoi?

Thanks,

Dom

 

My pleasure, Dom.

No, you won't find those reinforcements in the kit. I added them using 0.015 in styrene.  They are made up of three sections: the first section starts at the vertical panel line just before the end of the wing root (see picture of model) and goes straight back along the horizontal panel line until just behind the rear wheel wells. There, it overlaps the next section with a tapered end (I sanded down the end of the second section slightly to prevent the tapered end sticking up too much).

The second section angles slightly up and extends to the vertical panel line just past the chaff slots and before the 47-section hatch (hard to see in the pictures). At that point, there is another slight up-angle for the third section. The third section extends along the horizontal panel line to just before the vertical line that runs down to the radio antenna on the belly - about half way between that panel line and the one before it.

Below are some pictures of the strips on the model.

That chromate green is actually Krylon Fusion spray paint I bought at Ace Hardware - It's called "Ivy Leaf". The color turned out to be just about perfect.

Great idea about dropping Jane Fonda. Too bad they didn't do that!  Actually, that's a radome that covers the bombing radar. Below is the only picture I've been able to find with that radome removed.

Hey nice work there Jim!

I would have said beautiful work but I'm not sure there's much beautiful about an A-7. 

Did I hear a bell ringing? Oh look! An A-7 got its wings!

Son Of Medicine Man

Bockscar

Son Of Medicine Man

Bockscar

I hear you Ken:

I would like to give the local guys the business for sure.....but asking me to look up the part number?

I looked it up, I Part # $65US...lol....

-Dom

I am totally in full support of the locally owned business.  I just recently moved my prescriptions from a national chain to a new locally owned pharmacy for that very reason!

Ken

I'll call tomorrow, maybe someone will have the sense to sell me something. Otherwise, I'm back to Ebay.

Dom

Hi Dom,

I totally mis-read your earlier post!  Yeah, with service like that, why bother with them.  They have to earn your business.  If they expect you to go the extra mile to give them business, forget it!  Sorry about that, I re-read your post and now I understand what you are saying.

Ken

I was a bit put off. I know they have some great stuff, and I haven't been to any of them for about 6 months, but I never get a break from them, and i have to drive to them during their business hours.

I am happy to do that, but every time i go into one of those places, i am just a stranger, all over again.

You know, I have never walked into a hobby shop and left without spending money......but they take me for granted, no one ever bothers to help me. So, if it is self-serve world, I can get the same level of respect online......have PayPal Will Travel........

Long replys are good when they have that much info.....tap on, tap on....

Thanks Russ.

I guess I missed that reinforcement part for the tail section, prawely still on the sprues.

The holes look right from 10 feet away, so they are right, look great from here.

Hey man, use anything I post up here, this has been a great thread for ideas.

I have to cut all those little ribs......need BBQ sauce for those.....lol...

Card-stock.....heck why not.......if you get a shot of your completed or in process upper belly with

the fuselage slots and the the stock you use for hinges....

I have to start scribing into the belly of the BUFF......cut those upper doors out, I'm thinking to cut straight in from the ground-plane axis, hop I don't run into the Belly bay walls, it will be only a few thou tolerance...

Thanks Russ, great work man.

is that a standard chromate green, or did you mix that?

Yeah, I was going to ask but you started that already, the little bay in front of the front wheel bays, did they put ordnance in there, or use it to drop Jane Fonda onto a power plant in Hanoi?

Thanks,

Dom

Bockscar

Russ;

I thought you were new to model building, but do correct me on that.

I can see how you know the subject and are handy with the materials. You didn't start yesterday, right....lol

When i checked my BUFF I realized I have just enough tolerance left over to cut the upper doors as you have described....I saw them, but never translated that info to the kit, lucky for me you pointed that out. You must have cut about 30 or so little ribs to finish the uppermost section of the belly doors? and re-cut the top hinges?

Russ, where did you get the catwalks, I'm guessing sheet stock, patience, and a drill?

Nice work on the bomb belly and bulkheads, You lined the inside of the lower doors with thin stock sheet right? And How come?

Thanks for explaining the Radome, I guess the Revel and Mono kits are exactly the same tooling after all....What with you in addition to this thread, we are turning into a scratch channel.....

Also, did you put in some scratch just behind the bomb belly, over the rear wheels.....your build is really shaping up man.....I hope you don't mind if I take some of your ideas....

Dom

Man, you know how to make a guy feel good! . Thanks for the compliments, bud.

Sorry about the long reply. You're more than welcome to use any of my ideas, my friend, as long as you don't mind me doing  the same with your ideas

Striker8241

Hey Guys,

Here is a preliminary look at the bomb bay doors configured in load position. The detail on the door is only suggestive, not authentic. The only bomb bay detail I'm adding is the catwalk structure along the sides, since that's about all you will be able to see with the plane sitting on the ground

Russ

 

I thought you were new to model building, but do correct me on that.

I can see how you know the subject and are handy with the materials. You didn't start yesterday, right....lol

When i checked my BUFF I realized I have just enough tolerance left over to cut the upper doors as you have described....I saw them, but never translated that info to the kit, lucky for me you pointed that out. You must have cut about 30 or so little ribs to finish the uppermost section of the belly doors? and re-cut the top hinges?

Russ, where did you get the catwalks, I'm guessing sheet stock, patience, and a drill?

Nice work on the bomb belly and bulkheads, You lined the inside of the lower doors with thin stock sheet right? And How come?

Thanks for explaining the Radome, I guess the Revel and Mono kits are exactly the same tooling after all....What with you in addition to this thread, we are turning into a scratch channel.....

Also, did you put in some scratch just behind the bomb belly, over the rear wheels.....your build is really shaping up man.....I hope you don't mind if I take some of your ideas....

Dom

Gamera

Russ: Nice work on the trailer and bomb bay, I too really like the wooden deck of the trailer. And the new avatar is cool!

Thanks Gam. I can't take any credit for the wood deck - it came with the model. The boards are actually nicely scribbed on the other side but they stand out so much that it looks unrealistic, so I used the back side of the sheets.

Russ: Nice work on the trailer and bomb bay, I too really like the wooden deck of the trailer. And the new avatar is cool!

Mike: Plus I think if you're going to tag stuff bring along a friggen' dictionary or learn to spell!!!