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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:50 PM

Scorpiomikey

Er, i can send you some Kiwi bugs.

Thats a giant weta.

Mikey, man,

you've been holding out on us....lol.......

that's a katydid, the biggest i ever saw.......

Uhhhh.....a carniverous cricket...

lol....is that your hand pal?

is it still attached....lol.....Stick out tongueBig Smile

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:45 PM

Er, i can send you some Kiwi bugs.

Thats a giant weta.

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:40 PM

Mikey,

Oz has fab bugs,,,,,send us pics man.....always appreciated.......lol......Stick out tongue

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:38 PM

Striker8241

Son Of Medicine Man

Nice job Russ!  Looks great!  Yes  Yes 

Yes, the price tag on model paint is pretty steep.  But part of the reason is the fact that the paint, at least Model Master, is supposed to be mixed to match exactly the FS color.  And the fact that it is a "hobby" paint.

You also might consider investing in an air brush and a air compressor.  Then you could mix your own paint if you want to go that route.  The air brush also will allow you to get a much finer finish.  But it is an investment, and also you do have a learning curve on using it.

Ken

 
Thanks for the compliment Ken!
 
I hear you, bud, but there is no way that hobby paint justifies such a high price, and if I can avoid it with something that's a lot cheaper and works as well, I'll go that route. As a matter of fact, I do have a Badger air brush that uses canned air. I just haven't had the nerve to try it out yet. Once I gain some experience with the spray cans, I'll give it a shot.
 
Russ

Russ,

practice your airbrush technique on the old lady's lamp shades before trying it out on an expensive kit man....lol....

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:35 PM

Striker8241

Hey, Guys,

I made my first foray into spray painting today with anti-corrosive green. I used spray cans and it came out pretty good all things considered. However, when I saw the price of $5 - $6 for a 2-3 oz can of spray paint at the hobby shop, I decided "no way".  So I went to Ace Hardware and purchased 11 oz cans of Krylon enamel.- they now have a type called "Fusion" that bonds to plastic. I found most colors I needed, including the anti-corrosion green. It really does grip the plastic well.

However, I needed Air Force Blue for my 750-lb bomb trailer, but the only blue they had was too blue. So I sprayed the chassis first with flat black and then misted the blue color until it looked about right. I'm really happy with the way it came out (see below).

 

I'm looking forward to even more adventures in spray painting Big Smile

Russ

Russ:

i am envious, I can't paint at home because my mother-in-law cannot deal with it, she is very frail, pushing 90.

That flat-bed chassis looks great.

i was going through a tractor trailer exam at the truck school, and my instructor was talking to me and giving me instructions. he was sipping a coffee and kept resting it on the end of the flat-bed between barks.

i went up and down the flat bed, inspecting, as he checked off his big list with his stoney grimmace. They had a few items rigged to be loose just to fool us.

i get everything right as i walk down inspecting the trailer. I walk up to that bastige, and he has this big smirk on his face. Before he can say anything, I tell him 'we're not going anywhere until that coffee cup is off the back of the trailer'......ruined his day.....lol......

Layering those colours like that is great. There are no solid colors in real life except for brannew stuff. You can use that misting technique to sneak in weathering too, local soil dust, especially around the wheel bays, i dunno, those leaf springs might have a tiny bit of rust or separation, especially around the bands. A smear of dark red sludge and wipe them off to separate the leaves, that'll will make them pop, if you like that look.

Anywhere the paint gets scratched, the rust starts, I wasn't there, so i have no idea how fast rust formed on exposed steel in Vietnam, it's a given up here in Canada. Grit is good, unless you guys cleaned all the rigs daily or so.

The paint looks great so far, I'm looking forward to the rest of that build Russ.

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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:09 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Nice job Russ!  Looks great!  Yes  Yes 

Yes, the price tag on model paint is pretty steep.  But part of the reason is the fact that the paint, at least Model Master, is supposed to be mixed to match exactly the FS color.  And the fact that it is a "hobby" paint.

You also might consider investing in an air brush and a air compressor.  Then you could mix your own paint if you want to go that route.  The air brush also will allow you to get a much finer finish.  But it is an investment, and also you do have a learning curve on using it.

Ken

 
Thanks for the compliment Ken!
 
I hear you, bud, but there is no way that hobby paint justifies such a high price, and if I can avoid it with something that's a lot cheaper and works as well, I'll go that route. As a matter of fact, I do have a Badger air brush that uses canned air. I just haven't had the nerve to try it out yet. Once I gain some experience with the spray cans, I'll give it a shot.
 
Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, July 26, 2012 9:56 PM

Striker8241

Hey, Guys,

I made my first foray into spray painting today with anti-corrosive green. I used spray cans and it came out pretty good all things considered. However, when I saw the price of $5 - $6 for a 2-3 oz can of spray paint at the hobby shop, I decided "no way".  So I went to Ace Hardware and purchased 11 oz cans of Krylon enamel.- they now have a type called "Fusion" that bonds to plastic. I found most colors I needed, including the anti-corrosion green. It really does grip the plastic well.

However, I needed Air Force Blue for my 750-lb bomb trailer, but the only blue they had was too blue. So I sprayed the chassis first with flat black and then misted the blue color until it looked about right. I'm really happy with the way it came out (see below).

 

I'm looking forward to even more adventures in spray painting Big Smile

Russ

Nice job Russ!  Looks great!  Yes  Yes 

Yes, the price tag on model paint is pretty steep.  But part of the reason is the fact that the paint, at least Model Master, is supposed to be mixed to match exactly the FS color.  And the fact that it is a "hobby" paint.

You also might consider investing in an air brush and a air compressor.  Then you could mix your own paint if you want to go that route.  The air brush also will allow you to get a much finer finish.  But it is an investment, and also you do have a learning curve on using it.

Ken

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  • From: USA
Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, July 26, 2012 9:45 PM

Hey, Guys,

I made my first foray into spray painting today with anti-corrosive green. I used spray cans and it came out pretty good all things considered. However, when I saw the price of $5 - $6 for a 2-3 oz can of spray paint at the hobby shop, I decided "no way".  So I went to Ace Hardware and purchased 11 oz cans of Krylon enamel.- they now have a type called "Fusion" that bonds to plastic. I found most colors I needed, including the anti-corrosion green. It really does grip the plastic well.

However, I needed Air Force Blue for my 750-lb bomb trailer, but the only blue they had was too blue. So I sprayed the chassis first with flat black and then misted the blue color until it looked about right. I'm really happy with the way it came out (see below).

 

 

I'm looking forward to even more adventures in spray painting Big Smile

Russ

 

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Thursday, July 26, 2012 9:32 PM

Just be thankful its not an australian one.  Chances are itd be so venomous you would die by loking at it funnyStick out tongue

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Thursday, July 26, 2012 9:22 PM

Nice Mantis Dom.  Yeh they make fun pets, just catch some other bugs to feed it and it will happily rip bug heads off all day lol.  That's a good sized one, but you should see some of the ones we used to see when we went to visit my relatives in Maine...  We had one that sat on the roof of our car and was so big that my Dad was afraid of it and wouldn't get in the car.  It just sat there staring at him...  I haven't see one that color before.  All the ones around here are green.

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, July 26, 2012 9:15 PM

Gosh, are we having fun yet?????...lol

Oh yeah, anyone here like cammo?....lol....:

Beauty man....lol......

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, July 26, 2012 8:23 PM

Bockscar

Son Of Medicine Man

Scorpiomikey

Ugh, I have no motivation to work on models this weekend. Anyone wanna try and motivate/inspire me?

Well, maybe its because you are sick?

But here is one:

 

Ken

Hmmmmm.......nice tumble weeds.......gosh, that's the biggest Praying Mantis i ever saw!...

besides this one:

Dang, she was jess sooh frennnly.......

Of all the bugs out there, these critters are like instant pets!....lol....

That is a pretty cool pet there Dom!  I like it!  Yes  Yes 

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, July 26, 2012 8:02 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Scorpiomikey

Ugh, I have no motivation to work on models this weekend. Anyone wanna try and motivate/inspire me?

Well, maybe its because you are sick?

But here is one:

 

Ken

Hmmmmm.......nice tumble weeds.......gosh, that's the biggest Praying Mantis i ever saw!...

besides this one:

Dang, she was jess sooh frennnly.......

Of all the bugs out there, these critters are like instant pets!....lol....

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, July 26, 2012 7:54 PM

Like Ken said, nothing like a spot of lung infection to slow a guy down.....

Yeah Mikey, if you are painting this weekend, don't inhale.Dead

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, July 26, 2012 7:53 PM

jimbot58

Striker8241

Hey guys,

I came across an interesting masking material today (you all probably already know about it but, anyway...) called Parafilm M. It appears to cling to the plastic without adhesive and can be easily cut to conform to different paint outlines. Says it produces sharp paint separation without bleed-under. I found it at: www.micromark.com/parafilm-m,7551.html.

Cheers,

Russ

I use Parafilm all the time and that roll will last a life time! Here are my canopies for the RF-4B coated with the film. (Inside frames have been pre-painted) I stretch it, press it into place and then trim with a new fresh #11 hobby blade. It does tend to harden a bit once covered with paint, but it can be carefully removed with a toothpick! I love it!

Haven't used it for camo painting, I discovered Silly Putty for that!

I do need a bit of help with the A-7D: some references, and the AM Airdoc decal sheet I have, call for the intake trunk to be painted either gray or dark-green, depending on the color scheme used, due to the white being too visible. Further in it supposed to be gloss white, but I don't know how far back it would be go. The kit trunk extends back just beyond the rear of the forward landing gear bay. couldn't find any useful photos. I painted the rear wall a very dark gray as it is barely visible in this scale. One reference said about 4' or so.....

Jim:

Your secrets of perfect neatness are slowly being divulged.......

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Thursday, July 26, 2012 7:14 PM

Could be, thanks for the picture Ken. I might see if i can pick up some OD tommorow to paint this beasty.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, July 26, 2012 6:29 PM

Scorpiomikey

Ugh, I have no motivation to work on models this weekend. Anyone wanna try and motivate/inspire me?

Well, maybe its because you are sick?

But here is one:

 

Ken

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  • From: New Zealand
Posted by Scorpiomikey on Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:30 PM

Ugh, I have no motivation to work on models this weekend. Anyone wanna try and motivate/inspire me?

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:41 PM

Gamera

Bockscar

Cliff;

don't get a lot of requests for art these days....lol

I'll post this until I can pull some more images out of the stack.

Magneto optical drives, obsolete hardware and software.....

data migration has been a nightmare, speaking of which:

She's in the Bone Yard.....waiting to escape.......Whistling

Indifferent Um, thanks Dom, I think you just gave me nightmares tonight!!! Wink

Mike: Ouch, hope you feel better soon. Sounds nasty. 

Thanks guys.

Dom. That looks like one of the demons from Hellgate London.

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, July 26, 2012 9:50 AM

Bockscar

Cliff;

don't get a lot of requests for art these days....lol

I'll post this until I can pull some more images out of the stack.

Magneto optical drives, obsolete hardware and software.....

data migration has been a nightmare, speaking of which:

She's in the Bone Yard.....waiting to escape.......Whistling

Indifferent Um, thanks Dom, I think you just gave me nightmares tonight!!! Wink

Mike: Ouch, hope you feel better soon. Sounds nasty. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Thursday, July 26, 2012 9:32 AM

Yeh.  I'm always afraid that if I take the tape off too soon it will dribble or something. lol  Sometimes I forget to burnish the edge of the tape too. lol..

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Thursday, July 26, 2012 9:28 AM

Me too.  All of my medications tend to turn my immune system into Swiss Cheese, so I constantly pick up infections.  Not fun.  That's one of the reasons I don't go out much.

Rich

Scorpiomikey

Bockscar

Scorpiomikey

Bockscar

Scorpiomikey

Ha id hate to think what they would charge me for shipping.

Who knows Mikey, they might make that stuff in Oz......

I think it would help make some mask jobs a lot faster.

How's winter treating you?

Terrible, im getting a chest infection. Blech. Hate being sick.

Chest infection???

Get that sorted out right away mate, lost a cousin to that.

Dom

Im used to them now, Had 5 last year. Doc just gives me antibiotics and prednisone. The main thing i have to watch out for is the fever, Last year it hit 39.5 C (about 103F) Partner carted me off to the docs when i started rambling.

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by jimbot58 on Thursday, July 26, 2012 1:14 AM

Striker8241

Hey guys,

I came across an interesting masking material today (you all probably already know about it but, anyway...) called Parafilm M. It appears to cling to the plastic without adhesive and can be easily cut to conform to different paint outlines. Says it produces sharp paint separation without bleed-under. I found it at: www.micromark.com/parafilm-m,7551.html.

Cheers,

Russ

I use Parafilm all the time and that roll will last a life time! Here are my canopies for the RF-4B coated with the film. (Inside frames have been pre-painted) I stretch it, press it into place and then trim with a new fresh #11 hobby blade. It does tend to harden a bit once covered with paint, but it can be carefully removed with a toothpick! I love it!

Haven't used it for camo painting, I discovered Silly Putty for that!

I do need a bit of help with the A-7D: some references, and the AM Airdoc decal sheet I have, call for the intake trunk to be painted either gray or dark-green, depending on the color scheme used, due to the white being too visible. Further in it supposed to be gloss white, but I don't know how far back it would be go. The kit trunk extends back just beyond the rear of the forward landing gear bay. couldn't find any useful photos. I painted the rear wall a very dark gray as it is barely visible in this scale. One reference said about 4' or so.....

*******

On my workbench now:

It's all about classic cars now!

Why can't I find the "Any" key on my keyboard?

 

 

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:14 PM

Well Rich;

You are lucky, she could be asking for hockey equipment....lol

Let me know what tape you want.

After i saw that masking job you did on the Hustler, I figured you

are a guy who could really use a masking innovation.

Cliff has used this stuff before, sounds great, especially the fact

that you can stretch it to conform to the shape.

I saw a program once, and the little company, probably out of business, had these paint detail guys

and they offered an idea that seems to work, at least it did for me.

They said that the trick to masking is simple:

you mask to keep an area from being sprayed, not to keep it under tape

until the paint dries. What does that mean?

If you want a perfect edge, don't give the paint time to bleed in the first place.

Peel off the masking tape immediately after spraying.

This guy had a blue stripe masked all the way down a beautiful Cessna.

He sprayed the blue, and within seconds, was peeling the masking tape off.

He said that if you let the paint dry, it gives it time to allow capillary action to

build up a paint fillet in the corner between the surface and the tape.

He always sprayed then peeled.

The paint doesn't have time to bleed, and does the opposite of forming a fillet;

the paint draws away from the edge, giving a crisp, unraised edge, free of bleeding.

How do you do that?

The mask must be readily and easily 'pullable' from the surface.

Since you are dealing with wet paint, if you pull and it doesn't give,

or you smudge the fudge, you are judged.

Anyhow, did that on ship hulls cause they are easy, and so far, it works.

Okay, model paint drys faster than aircraft paint, but the bleeding....the bleeding....

"...doctor...doctor...we have all the bandages on.....and it's still bleeding!!!!!"

"...oh for the sake of Rice Crispies....pull the dang bandages off!!!!!!"

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:09 PM

Bockscar

Scorpiomikey

Bockscar

Scorpiomikey

Ha id hate to think what they would charge me for shipping.

Who knows Mikey, they might make that stuff in Oz......

I think it would help make some mask jobs a lot faster.

How's winter treating you?

Terrible, im getting a chest infection. Blech. Hate being sick.

Chest infection???

Get that sorted out right away mate, lost a cousin to that.

Dom

Im used to them now, Had 5 last year. Doc just gives me antibiotics and prednisone. The main thing i have to watch out for is the fever, Last year it hit 39.5 C (about 103F) Partner carted me off to the docs when i started rambling.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:49 PM

Bockscar

Son Of Medicine Man

Sparrowhyperion

I was going to get some too, but they want way too much for shipping.  $8.95 to ship it to me...

I searched for it on eBay.  There are several vendors that sell it.  Different widths and lengths with different shipping charges.  So you have a choice.

Ken

Rich:

Russ is sending me that fab little B-29, and won't take a trade, which I really appreciated.

I'll tell you what, I'll pay it forward, and spot you a roll of tape.

Let me know what you want.

-Dom

That would be great.  I have to use all my spare cash for Marissa's Band stuff for school, so I don't even get my normal $20 in August.. Oh well.  She better become the next Louie Armstrong with all this band stuff costs.  I just paid off the trumpet last January. lol   It could be worse I suppose...  Any idea what a decent keyboard costs nowadays, or a drum set or ... gulp..  A violin.....

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On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:31 PM

Scorpiomikey

Bockscar

Scorpiomikey

Ha id hate to think what they would charge me for shipping.

Who knows Mikey, they might make that stuff in Oz......

I think it would help make some mask jobs a lot faster.

How's winter treating you?

Terrible, im getting a chest infection. Blech. Hate being sick.

Chest infection???

Get that sorted out right away mate, lost a cousin to that.

Dom

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  • From: New Zealand
Posted by Scorpiomikey on Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:26 PM

Bockscar

Scorpiomikey

Ha id hate to think what they would charge me for shipping.

Who knows Mikey, they might make that stuff in Oz......

I think it would help make some mask jobs a lot faster.

How's winter treating you?

Terrible, im getting a chest infection. Blech. Hate being sick.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

My signature

Check out my blog here.

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  • From: USA
Posted by Striker8241 on Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:17 PM

Sorry, Dom. I only work in 1/72 at the moment. I'll keep an eye out for one though.

Russ

 

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  • From: Ontario, Canada
Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:06 PM

Cliff;

don't get a lot of requests for art these days....lol

I'll post this until I can pull some more images out of the stack.

Magneto optical drives, obsolete hardware and software.....

data migration has been a nightmare, speaking of which:

She's in the Bone Yard.....waiting to escape.......Whistling

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