Bockscar

Striker8241

Have Kit, Will Trade

Hey all, would any of you be interested in trading? I have a 1/72 B-29 kit made by MPC that I would like to trade for a Hasegawa or equivalent EB-66 or WC-123 (Duck Hook) or C-123H aircraft. My son started on the B-29 years ago but only did a couple of small things. The kit is practically untouched.

 Russ

Russ;

I like the kit, it would make a great builder, more rivets than Trumpy.

I figure the postage for it would be better used for outright purchase of one of your desired kits.

Here's a b-66 on Ebay, branew too:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-72-DOUGLAS-B-66B-DESTROYER-ITALERI-149-/390440489001?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item5ae8111029

Hey Russ, where do you live again, I can't remember.

-Dom

 

You like it? It's yours. I have no desire to build it. Send me an address and I'll mail it to you.  Thx for the tip - I'll check it out!

Russ

Striker8241

Have Kit, Will Trade

Hey all, would any of you be interested in trading? I have a 1/72 B-29 kit made by MPC that I would like to trade for a Hasegawa or equivalent EB-66 or WC-123 (Duck Hook) or C-123H aircraft. My son started on the B-29 years ago but only did a couple of small things. The kit is practically untouched.

 Russ

I like the kit, it would make a great builder, more rivets than Trumpy.

I figure the postage for it would be better used for outright purchase of one of your desired kits.

Here's a b-66 on Ebay, branew too:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-72-DOUGLAS-B-66B-DESTROYER-ITALERI-149-/390440489001?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item5ae8111029

Hey Russ, where do you live again, I can't remember.

-Dom

Gamera

I finally got a chance to read though everything ya'll posted over the weekend. Geeez Louise, I think there's more work and posting going on here than the rest of the GB combined.

Evidently Mike must have lit a fire under everyone's tush when he asked if anyone was building anything here! 

(Except me and my asbestos lined butt...)  

Needless to say but still 'Great work guys!' 

The Motivator.

Have Kit, Will Trade

Hey all, would any of you be interested in trading? I have a 1/72 B-29 kit made by MPC that I would like to trade for a Hasegawa or equivalent EB-66 or WC-123 (Duck Hook) or C-123H aircraft. My son started on the B-29 years ago but only did a couple of small things. The kit is practically untouched.

 Russ

I finally got a chance to read though everything ya'll posted over the weekend. Geeez Louise, I think there's more work and posting going on here than the rest of the GB combined.

Evidently Mike must have lit a fire under everyone's tush when he asked if anyone was building anything here! 

(Except me and my asbestos lined butt...)  

Needless to say but still 'Great work guys!' 

Bockscar

Striker8241

Bockscar

Mikey:

"that must have been before my time? Ive never seen anyone on here called prawley."

Yeah Mikey, before my time too,

his name was Prawley Kiktoff.

They found out he was a spy for

the Russians.

 

Seriously? For real?

Naw, just a bad joke on my part.

Lol!  

Striker8241

Bockscar

Mikey:

"that must have been before my time? Ive never seen anyone on here called prawley."

Yeah Mikey, before my time too,

his name was Prawley Kiktoff.

They found out he was a spy for

the Russians.

 

Seriously? For real?

Striker8241

Bockscar

Mikey:

"that must have been before my time? Ive never seen anyone on here called prawley."

Yeah Mikey, before my time too,

his name was Prawley Kiktoff.

They found out he was a spy for

the Russians.

 

Seriously? For real?

*facepalm*

AAAHHHHHGGG!!!!!! Bloody spam callers. Guy just rung saying their R&D department got my UNLISTED number. They ring up and get you to give them control of your computer, then they install a thing called ransomware. Basically you have to pay to use your own computer.

Bockscar

Mikey:

"that must have been before my time? Ive never seen anyone on here called prawley."

Yeah Mikey, before my time too,

his name was Prawley Kiktoff.

They found out he was a spy for

the Russians.

Bockscar

Well, now everyone can get TSA'd at the airport......lol...."No-Junk" zone.....

I will build that Nuke load on a G model......yeah, 42 meg is a sobbering thought. And they say that the 'vaporization penalty' is not a deterent......

Mind you, a MK82 go off beside you prawley doesn't hurt much either....

Thanks for the stories.....

Hey Ken, got any spare Hound Dogs.....to go with my Genies and ejector handles?????....lol....man it's gonna be like Christmas around here....

I had a chance to buy some on Ebay, but I got sniped....always like Hound Dogs.

One additional bit of information that few people know about (and even fewer care about ) - the alert bombers were rotated about every 30 days. When a bomber came off alert, it was flown to check out the systems and burn off the fuel that had sat idle in the plane for so long. This flight was called a "FSAGA" - First Sortie After Ground Alert.

Striker8241

B52s on SAC Alert

Thought you might also be interested in another aspect of my tour with the B-52s at Clinton-Sherman AFB, OK - the nuclear aspect. This was the cold war period so our primary mission was to maintain bombers on alert. For this, we had a separate high-security alert area at one end of the base called the "Christmas Tree" (located to the right at the end of the runway as shown on the map below). The parking spaces were arranged this way so the aircraft could quickly pull out  and taxi to the runway.

We usually maintained 6-8 alert aircraft. An alert aircraft was "cocked" - meaning it had the arming codes and targeting information on board. The alert area was a "No-Lone" zone, which meant everyone, including guards had to be in pairs and you could never be out of sight of your partner while in the area. If you did, you could be shot. Even worse, you could set off a security alert and be arrested and bundled onto a pickup where you stood with your hands on the cab, a searchlight focused on you and a gazillion M-16s trained on you while you were trundled off to the poky with great fanfare (it didnt' happen to me, but I saw it happen to someone else - frankly, I'd rather be shot )

Some of our older planes carried Hound Dog missiles on the pylons and usually two large nukes in the bomb bay. A typical bomb load might be two 1-megaton Hound Dogs and two 20-mt nukes. It was pretty sobering to stand next to a live 20 mt thermonuclear bomb and realize if it went off, you would never know what happened - your brain would be vaporized before it could process what was happening.

The alert crews rode in blue pickups with yellow flashing lights on top. They had the same right of way as emergency vehicles. Each alert B-52 had it's own tanker to refuel it once it was airborne and before it headed off to target. Seeing 8 KC-135s and 8 B-52s taxiing out and taking off was a fantastic sight. Knowing they all made it into the air without breaking was even more fantastic .

Russ

 

Well, now everyone can get TSA'd at the airport......lol...."No-Junk" zone.....

I will build that Nuke load on a G model......yeah, 42 meg is a sobbering thought. And they say that the 'vaporization penalty' is not a deterent......

Mind you, a MK82 go off beside you prawley doesn't hurt much either....

Thanks for the stories.....

Hey Ken, got any spare Hound Dogs.....to go with my Genies and ejector handles?????....lol....man it's gonna be like Christmas around here....

I had a chance to buy some on Ebay, but I got sniped....always like Hound Dogs.

Bockscar

Striker8241

Bockscar

 

The craft could take off and land and while doing so, it was very hard to notice any pitch. I think the designers wanted all the wheels to pretty much hit or take off at the same time. I swear i saw a film of early take-offs, and it appears as if it is rising then the nose tilts down as it goes up.....

Again, I think i heard it said that the wing tips could cut an up-down arc of about 27', and the flexibility of those wings was designed on purpose. I have no idea how they did it.

Guys, here's an FSX video that shows the wing flex pretty well. Of course, a bomber never landed with a full load of bombs so that's a little fakey. On the other hand, I have seen bombers come back with hung bombs and seen them drop off on touchdown and go bouncing and cartwheeling behind the bomber. Scarey sight.

Russ

Thanks Russ;

That's a nice little video, especially when you dump the Tom Cruise music.......

The wings could flex up as much as down, or so I was told. Great little clip.

Lol! Sorry about the music!  And you are welcome  

Son Of Medicine Man

jimbot58

Ok, here are a couple of more shot of the two aircraft I'm trying to do for this build;

The A-7D:

And this is what I hope to achieve:

And the F-105, which I haven't forgotten, but if I can get some progress done on the A-7, I can get back to it:

One thing I have learned about the camera so far, is that I need to turn down the pixel size for the purposes of these forums. Imageshack refuses to allow uploads of the picture at their original size without a premium account. I don't think we need 16 megapixels for this anyway.

Hi Jim,

Looks like you got a full load.  Fine work on all of them!     

Ken

Might seem like a lot, but I can't seem to ever stay focused on just one project. I always seem to have more than one pot on the stove. Besides, were not in a race or a competition, we're just her to participate and have fun, right? Plus I seem to build more carefully than I used to. Not adding usually adding extra detail or anything, just not moving on until I'm satisfied with it, I guess.

Thanks for the compliment Ken, though I can always pick apart my own work, being a kind of an imperfect perfectionist, if that makes any sense.

Ken:

Those really are sweet looking ejector handles.....

Jim:

That build is looking real good, it is gonna look real nice beside those Rhino's.

Sorry to here about the experience with your mom's estate. I'm not saying the bank did anything illegal, but I have business associates who trust banks as much as Ali Babba. They have a saying about safety deposit boxes: "If you can't touch it, the bank owns it." -'nuff said. Looking forward to the rest of those builds Jim. Now I have an F-105 itch real bad.....

Russ;

yes, Ken is right, drool-worthy photos, putting those in my BUFF file. Many thanks for that!

Dang, you guys got a ton of stuff done this past weekend, so I'm playing a bit of ketchup, with fries....lol

Striker8241

Bockscar

 

The craft could take off and land and while doing so, it was very hard to notice any pitch. I think the designers wanted all the wheels to pretty much hit or take off at the same time. I swear i saw a film of early take-offs, and it appears as if it is rising then the nose tilts down as it goes up.....

Again, I think i heard it said that the wing tips could cut an up-down arc of about 27', and the flexibility of those wings was designed on purpose. I have no idea how they did it.

Guys, here's an FSX video that shows the wing flex pretty well. Of course, a bomber never landed with a full load of bombs so that's a little fakey. On the other hand, I have seen bombers come back with hung bombs and seen them drop off on touchdown and go bouncing and cartwheeling behind the bomber. Scarey sight.

Russ

That's a nice little video, especially when you dump the Tom Cruise music.......

The wings could flex up as much as down, or so I was told. Great little clip.

Son Of Medicine Man

But isn't that just another example of how Berny was?  He was always quick to help out a fellow modeler.  If he had something sitting in his stash that could benefit someone else, he never hesitated to offer it up.  He was a great guy!

Ken

Funny how that came up like that, it's like Berny was telling you something like "send Dom those Genies"....lol

Mikey:

"that must have been before my time? Ive never seen anyone on here called prawley."

Yeah Mikey, before my time too,

his name was Prawley Kiktoff.

They found out he was a spy for

the Russians.

Striker8241

Son Of Medicine Man

Striker8241

Ok, guys, need your help again. I can't remember exactly where the ground power cable was connected on the B-52D. I know it was somewhere on the right side of the belly just forward of the front landing gear but I can't pin-point it on the model. I've been searching the internet but can't find a closeup of this area. I've also checed the In Detail and Scale but no luck. Anybody know, know anybody who knows, or have a picture of the location?

Thanks,

Russ

Hi Russ,

I looked through all of my personal photographs (which I took a bunch of the B-52 there at the National Museum) but I do not have any in that location.  So I only have one book on the B-52 (B-52 Stratofortress in action) and I could only find one picture that came close.  I don't know if it will help, but I sent it to your email address.

Ken

 

Many thanks, Ken! I got your email and sent back a reply.

 

Thanks again!

You are most welcome Russ!  I am glad to help.  It was just a fluke that picture had a ground power unit connected in the picture.  It was in a page full of pictures dipicting the different nose art work.

Ken

Striker8241

Son Of Medicine Man

Striker8241

Ok, guys, need your help again. I can't remember exactly where the ground power cable was connected on the B-52D. I know it was somewhere on the right side of the belly just forward of the front landing gear but I can't pin-point it on the model. I've been searching the internet but can't find a closeup of this area. I've also checed the In Detail and Scale but no luck. Anybody know, know anybody who knows, or have a picture of the location?

Thanks,

Russ

 

Hi Russ,

I looked through all of my personal photographs (which I took a bunch of the B-52 there at the National Museum) but I do not have any in that location.  So I only have one book on the B-52 (B-52 Stratofortress in action) and I could only find one picture that came close.  I don't know if it will help, but I sent it to your email address.

Ken

 

Many thanks, Ken! I got your email and sent back a reply.

 

Thanks again!

Son Of Medicine Man

Striker8241

Ok, guys, need your help again. I can't remember exactly where the ground power cable was connected on the B-52D. I know it was somewhere on the right side of the belly just forward of the front landing gear but I can't pin-point it on the model. I've been searching the internet but can't find a closeup of this area. I've also checed the In Detail and Scale but no luck. Anybody know, know anybody who knows, or have a picture of the location?

Thanks,

Russ

Hi Russ,

I looked through all of my personal photographs (which I took a bunch of the B-52 there at the National Museum) but I do not have any in that location.  So I only have one book on the B-52 (B-52 Stratofortress in action) and I could only find one picture that came close.  I don't know if it will help, but I sent it to your email address.

Ken

Great!  Thanks, Guys!

It's actually easy to find in most supermarkets and department stores.  It's a floor finish which can be applied by brush, although I have heard some folks spray it with an airbrush.  I'd be afraid of gumming up the airbrush.  It's basically a clear thick acrylic.  If I need to do a small part, I just dip the piece into it, then let it dry on wax paper.  I use this technique mostly for small cockpit glass and window pieces.

Rich

Scorpiomikey

Striker8241

Scorpiomikey

Its not wax dude, its called Future floor polish. Or pledge with future shine. Whereabouts are you located geographically russ?

Thanks, Mikey. BTW. how do you apply it? Spray?  I live in Melbourne, Florida, about 15 miles south of Cape Canaveral.

Brush paint. Its self levelling. Not sure where to get in in the states. Swannys website had a page about it but i lost the link a while ago.

Scorpiomikey

Striker8241

Scorpiomikey

Its not wax dude, its called Future floor polish. Or pledge with future shine. Whereabouts are you located geographically russ?

Thanks, Mikey. BTW. how do you apply it? Spray?  I live in Melbourne, Florida, about 15 miles south of Cape Canaveral.

Brush paint. Its self levelling. Not sure where to get in in the states. Swannys website had a page about it but i lost the link a while ago.

Pledge with Future Shine Floor Polish.  You can get it almost at any department store like Walmart.  I picked a bottle of it up at Home Depot.

Ken

Striker8241

Scorpiomikey

Its not wax dude, its called Future floor polish. Or pledge with future shine. Whereabouts are you located geographically russ?

Thanks, Mikey. BTW. how do you apply it? Spray?  I live in Melbourne, Florida, about 15 miles south of Cape Canaveral.

Brush paint. Its self levelling. Not sure where to get in in the states. Swannys website had a page about it but i lost the link a while ago.

Striker8241

Ok, guys, need your help again. I can't remember exactly where the ground power cable was connected on the B-52D. I know it was somewhere on the right side of the belly just forward of the front landing gear but I can't pin-point it on the model. I've been searching the internet but can't find a closeup of this area. I've also checed the In Detail and Scale but no luck. Anybody know, know anybody who knows, or have a picture of the location?

Thanks,

Russ

Hi Russ,

I looked through all of my personal photographs (which I took a bunch of the B-52 there at the National Museum) but I do not have any in that location.  So I only have one book on the B-52 (B-52 Stratofortress in action) and I could only find one picture that came close.  I don't know if it will help, but I sent it to your email address.

Ken

Yeh we definitely need to do another trip.

Rich

A C5... Man that will bring back some memories...

Son Of Medicine Man

Striker8241

Hey Ken,

I stumbled onto this site for the National Museum of the USAF.

www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/.../media_search.asp

There are some nice shots of F-101s, as well as a host of other aircraft.

Cheers,

Russ

Hi Russ,

Oh yes, I know the museum well.  I live in Indiana about a 3 hours drive away from it.  A group of us met with Berny last year there.  I setup a special "one-on-one" with one of the F-4's for Berny where they allowed him behind the ropes to get up close and personal.  It was a real treat.

I want to go there again this year since they have part 2 of the Vietnam Exhibit done now.  When the weather cools down I think would be a good time to go.  They are also supposed to be building a new wing that will be housing a C-5 Galaxy!

Ken

Ok, guys, need your help again. I can't remember exactly where the ground power cable was connected on the B-52D. I know it was somewhere on the right side of the belly just forward of the front landing gear but I can't pin-point it on the model. I've been searching the internet but can't find a closeup of this area. I've also checed the In Detail and Scale but no luck. Anybody know, know anybody who knows, or have a picture of the location?

Thanks,

Russ

jimbot58

Ok, here are a couple of more shot of the two aircraft I'm trying to do for this build;

The A-7D:

And this is what I hope to achieve:

And the F-105, which I haven't forgotten, but if I can get some progress done on the A-7, I can get back to it:

One thing I have learned about the camera so far, is that I need to turn down the pixel size for the purposes of these forums. Imageshack refuses to allow uploads of the picture at their original size without a premium account. I don't think we need 16 megapixels for this anyway.

Hi Jim,

Looks like you got a full load.  Fine work on all of them!     

Ken

Scorpiomikey

Its not wax dude, its called Future floor polish. Or pledge with future shine. Whereabouts are you located geographically russ?

Thanks, Mikey. BTW. how do you apply it? Spray?

Striker8241

B52s on SAC Alert

Thought you might also be interested in another aspect of my tour with the B-52s at Clinton-Sherman AFB, OK - the nuclear aspect. This was the cold war period so our primary mission was to maintain bombers on alert. For this, we had a separate high-security alert area at one end of the base called the "Christmas Tree" (located to the right at the end of the runway as shown on the map below). The parking spaces were arranged this way so the aircraft could quickly pull out  and taxi to the runway.

We usually maintained 6-8 alert aircraft. An alert aircraft was "cocked" - meaning it had the arming codes and targeting information on board. The alert area was a "No-Lone" zone, which meant everyone, including guards had to be in pairs and you could never be out of sight of your partner while in the area. If you did, you could be shot. Even worse, you could set off a security alert and be arrested and bundled onto a pickup where you stood with your hands on the cab, a searchlight focused on you and a gazillion M-16s trained on you while you were trundled off to the poky with great fanfare (it didnt' happen to me, but I saw it happen to someone else - frankly, I'd rather be shot )

Some of our older planes carried Hound Dog missiles on the pylons and usually two large nukes in the bomb bay. A typical bomb load might be two 1-megaton Hound Dogs and two 20-mt nukes. It was pretty sobering to stand next to a live 20 mt thermonuclear bomb and realize if it went off, you would never know what happened - your brain would be vaporized before it could process what was happening.

The alert crews rode in blue pickups with yellow flashing lights on top. They had the same right of way as emergency vehicles. Each alert B-52 had it's own tanker to refuel it once it was airborne and before it headed off to target. Seeing 8 KC-135s and 8 B-52s taxiing out and taking off was a fantastic sight. Knowing they all made it into the air without breaking was even more fantastic .

Russ

 

Okay Russ, when Dom gets back online, he is going to drool all over this stuff.  I find it fascinating as well.  Very cool.  I may have to build a B-52 in "nuclear" mode myself!

Ken