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Posted by kermit on Thursday, June 21, 2012 3:43 PM

Hmm... I dont know if the enamel Talon is any different but the acrylic doesnt need any thinning. I just get good results every time. The trick is to really mist it on an be patient applying multiple ultrathin coats...

Richard

 

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Posted by stoutfella on Thursday, June 21, 2012 4:17 PM

kermit

Hmm... I dont know if the enamel Talon is any different but the acrylic doesnt need any thinning. I just get good results every time. The trick is to really mist it on an be patient applying multiple ultrathin coats...

Richard

 

Oops, guess I misunderstood. I have a Paasche Talon airbrush. I'm not familiar with Talon paint.

Cheers,

Stoutfella

On the bench: 1/48 Tamiya Bristol Beaufighter

On deck: 1/48 Tamiya P51-B

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, June 21, 2012 7:50 PM

SF: Looks pretty good to me, esp the topside which should get more attention.

Richard: Sounds good, looking forward to the photos!

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Thursday, June 21, 2012 10:39 PM

Stout - nice work on the stripes! In fact, the whole build is looking really good! Can't wait to see more! Yes

Jollyroger - that is just insanely good work for any scale - the fact that it's 1/72 takes it to another level.

Kermit - looking forward to seeing more pics. I've never used that paint before, and I'm pumped to see how it looks. Yes

Progress has slowed a bit on the bike, but I'll be picking up the pace again starting tonight and should have some pics to share as well.

 

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, June 22, 2012 12:28 AM

Ok lets try this again, typed it all once and the Censored computer burped Bang Head

Miss Owl the front page is updated with your Thunderbolt.

Stoutfella a very well executed save on those stripes man YesYes Thats gonna be one sweet looking Mustang when finished.

Gotta put in my 2 cents worth here.

I too like Talon paints and powders. The trick with it is spraying it on in very light misted coats as Kermit said. The tough part is with the first 3 coats it doesn't look like anything is going on, however by the time you get to the 5th coat the aluminum starts really popping out at you. It is hard to keep ones self from adding heavier coats as you paint but don't do it, just keep the light misting coats going on and you will be rewarded. Also a bit of a hint I only let the paint dry for about 5 minutes between coats, letting the carrier set a bit then add the next coat. Talon is very tough too I have masked it after allowing it to dry 4 hours using blue painters tape with no lifting and no primer under the Talon.Here's one I painted and decaled in 1 day.

Jolly Roger man I gotta tell ya I cant make a pit look that good in 1/48 scale Bow Down

Doogs BIG,,,,, HUGE,,,,,,, UMONGUS B-25 pictures Eats

waiting for Kermified Jug pictures

Ruddratt glad to hear you are getting back to the bike Yes

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by mike_espo on Friday, June 22, 2012 5:47 PM

Was finally able to make some progress on my Revell F-86D. Just cockpit, exhaust nozzle and seat so far.....

This is gotta be one of the easiest and smoothest builds I ever did!!!! Yes

Sorry about my poor photography....cockpit detail is greater than the photo shows.....Confused

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Trumpeter 148 MiG -21F 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Friday, June 22, 2012 10:40 PM

vetteman42

I too like Talon paints and powders. The trick with it is spraying it on in very light misted coats as Kermit said. 

Doogs BIG,,,,, HUGE,,,,,,, UMONGUS B-25 pictures Eats

Have to say, when I've tried Talon, I can never get the stuff to "light mist". For me it's one of those paints that has two operating levels - zero paint flow or full blast. Don't know why.

And sad news - I've put the B-25 back in the box. In part because I'm waiting on aftermarket. In part  because I just need something less epic right now. And in part because of the heat and #*$*@!!$# bugs. It's crickettown here right now, along with spiders. I think it's when I saw the finished bomb bay had become a giant cobweb that I lost it.

Good news is I'll be picking up with two different partial NMF kits. One's another B-25 I'm doing as a commission piece - a 1/48 Revellogram B-25J. The other's Tamiya's two-sprue wonder, the 1/48 P-51B, done up in the RAF Dark Green over bare metal of Henry Brown's "Hun Hunter ~ Texas".

Brown's one of my favorite Mustang pilots, a fellow Dallas boy, and his -B has a fairly unique scheme that's neither OD/NG or NMF...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by kermit on Saturday, June 23, 2012 12:59 AM

Doogs,

The pony just might get you back on track. No fuss no brainer fun builds.

Ok i promised some NMF stage pics:

Ok, you got me, i used some artificial light on the model to catch the shine Wink But it does...shine now. Took about 5 or 6 coats to get here and i like the results. By means of experiment i tried priming with future after all the sanding i did. I figured the self levelling qualities just might fill up a few scratches left. This went ok-ish but i really feel it did help the NMF coating.

Very slightly visible should be a gentle preshade where i outlined the panels with black paint prior to priming.

Today i am going to spray the flat black anti glare paneling and that should complete the major paintwork...

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by stoutfella on Saturday, June 23, 2012 9:04 AM

Greetings,

Mike: Looks like a good start on the F86.

Kermit: I'm eager to see your Bearcat further along with this 'mysterious' Talon finish Wink

Doogs: Sorry to see the B25 mothballed, but I'm sure your 51B will be a gem.

For my part, I've done some touchups and laid down a semi-gloss top coat on 'Sallee' and added wheels, so she now stands on her own. I want to go back and put a flat coat on the anti-glare panel and the prop (to seal the decals). And then I should be done, with pics to follow shortly.

My only complication for the day is a leaking water heater, which probably means a plumber putting in a new one, which means my painting 'studio' space will be occupied by pipes and wrenches. Something in our water eats up heaters. Previous one lasted only five years, this one seven.

Cheers,

Stoutfella

On the bench: 1/48 Tamiya Bristol Beaufighter

On deck: 1/48 Tamiya P51-B

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, June 23, 2012 9:24 PM

Great work all around guys!!! Though I am disappointed Doogs on the B-25 going on sabbatical, looking forward to seeing that cool pony though. Beer

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Posted by CaptBigMoney on Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:15 AM

I guess I've been lurking here long enough, might as well go for it...

This will be my first attempt at a NMF.  Hasegawa's P-38J with the Aries cockpit and a couple of other aftermarket bits.

The cockpit was a bear to get to fit right, but I finally got it to work:

Next step is to get the booms on and straight.

Mac

Mac

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Posted by Misty on Sunday, June 24, 2012 10:22 AM

Spend days doing this. This is my first go with resin. These parts just do not fit. i expected a little fit and finishing to be needed but jeez this is ridcoliclioclus.

First a comparison between the Aires and CMK wheel wells. Aires wins hands down on detail (excuse the dust)


wwImage1 by omgpainful, on Flickr

second how damn thin do you want me to make the wings. Aires? Note panel lines showing clear thorough! the other wing half is just as thin


wwImage2 by omgpainful, on Flickr

third almost nothing left holding the well together Surprise


wwImage3 by omgpainful, on Flickr

Even with all this the two halves do not quite meet (good enough tho' ...just)

Hope the rest of this build goes easier or I'll neve finish it.

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Posted by stoutfella on Sunday, June 24, 2012 12:52 PM

Greetings,

I call "done" on Short Fuse Sallee. Here she be:

There are certainly some things that, in hindsight, I would have approached differently, the invasion stripe decals in particular. But overall, I enjoyed my first shot at NMF.

My son got home from Scout camp yesterday and, when I showed him the plane, he said that he liked this one the best (of the four planes I've now completed). So, hey, how can I argue with that?

Speaking of my son, for Father's Day, he gave me the Revellogram F-80 Shooting Star. Now, coming back to the hobby, I intended to limit myself to 1/48 WWII prop planes only. The F-80 doesn't exactly fit, but again, how can I argue? So I may do that one for this build a little later and give the Alclad a try.

By the way, these photos were taken using the light box I constructed this morning according to the FSM how-to video that was posted on the home page recently. Easy, not too expensive and I finally have nice even lighting. I'll do some experimenting to find the right camera settings, but I'm pretty pleased. Only trouble will be finding some place in our already cluttered house to store the thing.

Cheers,

Stoutfella

On the bench: 1/48 Tamiya Bristol Beaufighter

On deck: 1/48 Tamiya P51-B

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Posted by DoogsATX on Sunday, June 24, 2012 1:03 PM

stoutfella - she came out very nicely indeed! Gotta love Tamiya's P-51 kits. I'm still waiting on a slew of Ultracast bits for the -B, but did a bit of work last night (got the paper tanks together) and it felt like hanging out with an old friend.

Speaking of Mustangs, I was just outside taking out some trash when I heard an airplane overhead. Not uncommon around here, but the engine note was very distinct from the usual airliners and Cessnas. Looked up and, sure enough, saw a P-51 making its way across the sky. 

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by DoogsATX on Sunday, June 24, 2012 1:10 PM

Oh and...you could always build the F-80 as a late WWII P80. They didn't reach front lines, but they were up and in the air...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by stoutfella on Sunday, June 24, 2012 1:18 PM

Greetings,

CaptBigMoney: That pit looks good. I've got the Revellogram P-38 in my stash. I'll be interested to see how your Hasegawa turns out.

Talentless: That looks like a b***h! Good luck.

Doogs: Thanks much, all the more appreciated after seeing your own work!

Vetteman42: Any progress on group badges? Not that I'm impatient or anything, after jumping the gun on this build in the first place Wink

And to anyone interested, here are a couple of shots of the photo lightbox I mentioned in my previous post:

Cheers,

Stoutfella

On the bench: 1/48 Tamiya Bristol Beaufighter

On deck: 1/48 Tamiya P51-B

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, June 24, 2012 7:23 PM

Capt: Nice work there, I've heard complaints about the booms but the two Hasegawa P-38s I've built seemed to go together pretty well though.

Talentless: Ick, that's one of the reasons I hate resin replacement parts. And yeah I've sanded clean through them on more than a few occasions. Good luck, nice work there I hope things work out.

SF: Beautiful job sir!!! Despite your problems with the invasion stripes and the kill markings everything looks top notch to me. The NM looks just plain great! And as Doogs said the P-80/F-80 was slanted for Second World War use but just missed it so it is sorta a WWII plane.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by kermit on Thursday, June 28, 2012 1:39 PM

Beautiful model Stoutfella and i do love your photobooth. Mine consists of two sheets of blue cardboard, one curled up against the wall and whatever lightswitch i can turn on in the room. Nothing near the absolutely great setup you have made!Yes

Well, i promised Randy an update a day ago so here we go... I have added the anti glare panel using matte black and applied the decals. Usual Academy thick and unwieldy quality there...

 

I do love Academy for making very affordable kits that actually have near tamigawa fit and crispness of the molds but them decals........ughhh.

Next up will be taking care of fitting the undercarriage and little bits....

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by strider07 on Thursday, June 28, 2012 2:14 PM

Well drat

my airbrush has become gummed up >.< at least I've got the fuselage constructed. Time to fix this up after work.

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Posted by stoutfella on Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:30 PM

kermit

Beautiful model Stoutfella and i do love your photobooth. Mine consists of two sheets of blue cardboard, one curled up against the wall and whatever lightswitch i can turn on in the room. Nothing near the absolutely great setup you have made!Yes

Well, i promised Randy an update a day ago so here we go... I have added the anti glare panel using matte black and applied the decals. Usual Academy thick and unwieldy quality there...

 

I do love Academy for making very affordable kits that actually have near tamigawa fit and crispness of the molds but them decals........ughhh.

Next up will be taking care of fitting the undercarriage and little bits....

Richard

Coming along nicely. Looks like you've done a smooth job on those fuselage seams. That's my downfall.

Cheers,

Stoutfella

On the bench: 1/48 Tamiya Bristol Beaufighter

On deck: 1/48 Tamiya P51-B

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Posted by ruddratt on Thursday, June 28, 2012 8:52 PM

Stout - congrats on the first completed build for the GB, and it's a doozie! Really nice work there! Yes

Kermit - great progress on the 'cat so far. I hear ya about the Academy decals - they're a dog to work with. I've used Gunze's softer & setter on 'em - really helped 'em behave themselves and act like decals should.

Mac - sweet lookin' office for the '38. Definitely looking forward to this one!

Been making really good progress on the Virago - just too lazy to post pics with that hungry dinosaur I call a PC - eats up a lot of quality bench time. I'd like to post at least one more set of pics before she's done, so hopefully tonight.

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by Jolley Roger on Friday, June 29, 2012 6:41 AM

Stoutfella, you have done that model proud, wow.

I've ordered the Tamiya 1/32, think i'll enter it in the next NMF build.

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Posted by stoutfella on Friday, June 29, 2012 8:13 AM

Ruddratt and Jolley Roger: Thanks again for the good words. I think it would be near impossible to end up with a bad result from that kit. I'll look forward to seeing the 1/32. Furyan did a super job on one of those in the last NMF group build. Check page 51 of NMF GB III.

Cheers,

Stoutfella

On the bench: 1/48 Tamiya Bristol Beaufighter

On deck: 1/48 Tamiya P51-B

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, June 29, 2012 9:04 AM

Richard: The NM looks perfect Yes The decals do look a little thick but not too bad!

Strider: Good luck with your airbrush, gosh I know how annoying the things can be.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Friday, June 29, 2012 9:47 AM

Got some first-look test-fit goodness with the P-51B...

Test-fitting this one reminded me why I keep saying it's possibly the best-building kit in the scale. This thing is literally held together with three pieces of tape. One on the fuselage, one on the tail, and one under the chin. 

A closeup of the canopy and the wing root. The fit on these two critical areas is just phenomenal. Last time I built one of these, I didn't even have to glue the upper wing root. Don't think I'll need to this time around, either...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, June 29, 2012 12:10 PM

Mike_espo I would call that a very good start man ! That pit is gonna be a nice one, love the detail work and the IP is really well done. You gonna dirty up the burner can with pastels maybe ? If I recall correctly those engines produced a lot of soot, just a suggestion of course.

Doogs I to am sorry to hear the BIG 25 is on the back burner but I can sympathize with you having lived in Boyd for a while. In the spring we were invaded by fire ants, swear there was a hill every 10 feet of a 2 acre yard. Finally got them under control as it went into summer, then after a rain in the early fall it was water beetles !

I have that same Tamiya P-51B in the stash too sure looks like a pleasure to build. I will get you 2 new builds on the list today.

CaptBigMoney yup that kit is a definite challenge to be sure, but it looks like you have that P-38 headed in the right direction.

Stoutfella CONGRATULATIONS !!!!! yours is the first completion for the group. As has been said above, you have done the model justice, very well done Sir. You I believe said this was your first attempt doing NMF ? It looks like you have done many of them in the past and knowing how fragile the Metalizers are, you handled it like a pro. YesYesToast Your build is posted on the front page. Cant wait to see your next one.

Talentless man that Aries does look a bit taller then the CMK version. I for one have never had much luck with resin addons other than wheels and props, course that could be that I am a bit hamfisted. I am looking forward to seeing how they turn out for you.

Richard WOW nice !!!!!!!!!!! Been wanting to see these pictures of the Kermi-cat Big Smile I've heard horror stories of the Academy decals and must say you got them to lay down and behave very well. I really like the markings you have chosen too, Yes keep the pictures coming buddy.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by ruddratt on Saturday, June 30, 2012 12:39 AM

OK fellas, finally got some pics taken and uploaded. Gotta say, in spite of how far out of my comfort zone this kit is, I'm havin' a ball building it. Man though, that Alclad II chrome is some tricky stuff! Very easy to get heavy handed with it, and if that happens it kills the effect completely, looking more like aluminum. Too little, and it's way too dark. It relies heavily on that uber-glossy black base coat. After a lot of trial and error, I found that 2-3 very light coats of the Alclad at about 12psi worked best, but it was tough maintaining that consistancy, and I still had some pieces that ended up with a better finish than others. Overall though, I'm quite pleased with the reults so far. Used a little creative license and went with colors on the fenders to match the tank and battery covers instead of chrome.

Anyway, here's where it stands so far.

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by stoutfella on Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:43 AM

Ruddratt: Comfort or no, that's beautiful!

Cheers,

Stoutfella

On the bench: 1/48 Tamiya Bristol Beaufighter

On deck: 1/48 Tamiya P51-B

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Posted by DoogsATX on Saturday, June 30, 2012 9:29 PM

ruddratt - holy crap man, that thing's ridiculous! When I saw it on my phone earlier, I thought it was a reference of the real bike you're building!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Saturday, June 30, 2012 9:33 PM

Had some fun with the airbrush last night.

On a few recent builds, I've been less than happy with my cockpits. Interior green over primer just looks way too clean and uniform, even with heavy-handed weathering.

So this time around I'm trying something I've used to good effect on armor builds. 

Started out painting all the interior pieces with Tamiya X-1 Gloss Black. I'd have used flat, but need to Alclad a few areas, so hey, X-1 for everything!

Next, thin MM Interior Green, building up haphazardly and in light coats.

Here's a few bits of the B-25 interior:

And the P-51:

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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