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OFFICAL NATURAL METAL FINISH GB IV 2012-2013

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:14 PM

I cant help you out on this at all. Sorry.

Nice looking plane btw.

Clemens

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Posted by 68GT on Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:17 PM

Thanks, the mold is showing its age with a lot of flash but the fit isn't all that bad.

On Ed's bench, ???

  

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, May 23, 2013 9:13 AM

68GT: Polyscale is out of production and will probably be hard to find. Most railroad shops I've been in carry Floquil products, if you can't find one near you I'm not sure where else to look other than on-line.

I like the Metalizer, works well as long as you don't try to mask over it. Frankly I use Alclad for pretty much all metallic surfaces these days.

Clemens: Good luck with NM GB V - I'd like to support but I'm swamped by stuff now and after building three P-47s and a P-51 need a little break from NM subjects! I was pretty new to the whole GB thing too when I started my two GBs so if you need any advice give me a yell.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, May 23, 2013 9:23 AM

Thank you for your offer, Gamera! Now I have two guys I can talk to about GB problems. (Bish is the other one) YAY!

Cheers, Clemens

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:54 AM

As I mentioned already, I am the new host for round 5!

Here is the link to it: cs.finescale.com/.../154399.aspx

It would be nice, if some of you guys in here would join the next round as well!

Oh, before I forget about it: Everyone who hasn't finished his project for this one, please move to the 5th round after July 2nd!

Clemens

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Posted by vetteman42 on Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:55 PM

Thanks guys for your kind words and understanding.

68GT good progress on the F-105 Yes I too like the look of MM metal finishes but find them way delicate for masking and such. I have seen very good results with Tamiya flat aluminum paint as well and it doesnt seem to lift as easily. as the metalizers do. A suggestion might be a base color of metalizers then seal it with future as some of the panels look shiny then use a low tack mask and paint some of the panels with the Tamiya paint for the flat looking panels. I have also seen a few guys use  black and darker shades of gray paints under metalizers to create differant shades of aluminum. Near the beginning of this group someone did a bunch of test shots using plastic spoons with black and gray base coats and differant paints that might help you.

SchattenSpartan thanks for carring on the group for round V. If there is anything I can do to help you just let me know. Oh and if I may I will be entering my unfinished B-29 if you dont mind. Hopefully I can get it finished this time.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, May 23, 2013 2:10 PM

I'd be happy to have you in the new round as well, Randy. This series was your idea anyway...

Well, looks like me being the new host is now officially approved Smile

Cheers, Clemens

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Posted by vetteman42 on Thursday, May 23, 2013 3:52 PM

GT68 I went on a hunting mission for ya but didnt find the test spoons I told you about, I did however find a couple pages that might help you from round II. Heres a link to round II.

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/29/t/127602.aspx

On page 14 about half way down Ibuild148 did a test panel with a few primer colors under an NMF finish and on page 3 Jmart offers a bunch of sites doing how to's for NMF finishes. Hope they help you out.

SchattenSpartan  the page is up so yeah I would call it offical YesBig Smile

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by kermit on Thursday, May 23, 2013 4:04 PM

I am so glad i still got a full bottle of the Talon paint..... Absolutely love the stuff and it is a shame it is no longer available.

I am not sure but i wonder if you would have a flatter NMF if you used flat black as basecoat as opposed to gloss black...

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by vetteman42 on Thursday, May 23, 2013 4:13 PM

Kermit as I recall someone tried using flat black and it didnt work as planned. Someone else tried using flat black and shooting future over it to get a smoother finish as well and that didnt work very well either.

I really like the Talon paints too. Hope someone buys the line and restarts selling it again.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, May 23, 2013 4:47 PM

Kermit: I can only tell you about Alclad paints: If you spray a flat black base coat (I used the Alclad primer) and polish it a little bit with a soft cloth, you get a very dull look. I tried to paint my Thunderbolt (first plane mdel ever) this way and I think it turned out pretty nice. I used Alclad's Aluminum paint and painted some panels in other colors (Airframe Aluminum, Chrome, Dark Aluminum). There is nothing "shiny-shiny" about it, but it looks not that bad on a Thunderbolt.

Clemens

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Posted by 68GT on Thursday, May 23, 2013 5:46 PM

Thanks for the help,

A while back I used the MM n0n-buff aluminum on the one below.  It has a base coat of gull gray with different panels being painted Testors rubber and a few a mix of the two.  I lucked out on it.

This one has a straight black lacquer base coat with the same top coat of MM.

  

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, May 23, 2013 5:49 PM

That are some really awsome looking planes you got there, 68!

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Posted by 68GT on Thursday, May 23, 2013 5:52 PM

Thanks,

Those were my 1st and 2nd NMF models in a real long time (20+ years).

On Ed's bench, ???

  

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, May 23, 2013 6:06 PM

Believe me, you don't want to see my first NMF bird (a Thunderbol). The pantjob is not perfect at all and it was my first plane model ever, so the model itself aint that good either...

Clemens

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  • From: Hatfield
Posted by Misty on Thursday, May 23, 2013 6:15 PM

Seen a few pp, not impressed with alclads own black gloss basecoat, me included. I now use humbrol gloss black enamel instead under the alclad highshine finishes and am much happier with it.

Ive tried C1 metaliser powder and find it only seems to work on enamel paint properly too

tried clearcoat to seal it and it just ended up looking like shiny grey paint instead of metal :-(

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Posted by vetteman42 on Thursday, May 23, 2013 6:31 PM

GT68 Like em both I especially like the first one the shading really makes is stand out. Love the base idea on the second one too. 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by vetteman42 on Saturday, June 1, 2013 1:16 PM

I think the time had come to close this build. Guys if you would check the front page to make sure I havent missed any completed builds and the build information is right it would be a huge help.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by kermit on Saturday, June 1, 2013 1:37 PM

Just dropping by to thank you Vetteman!. It has been four years of amazing fun and good times. This is without a shadow of a doubt one of the most succesful Group builds FSM has ever seen. You have been an awesome host!

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, June 1, 2013 3:11 PM

I wasn't participating in parts 1-4, but I want to thank you as well for setting this awesome GB up, Randy! And thank you very much for being my co-host in the 5th round of this!

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, June 1, 2013 3:14 PM

AS this one is now officially closed, I have to ask everyone, who wasn't able to complete his/her project in this round, to move up to part 5.

Everyone else interested is of course also very welcome!

Here's a link to it: cs.finescale.com/.../154399.aspx

I wish all of you who take part in part 5 much fun!

Your new host, Clemens

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