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Posted by Italian Starfighter on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:06 AM

Thanks guys...................

@Ken:very good cut & sew work........clean and sharp.

Ciao all,Enrico.

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:15 AM

Hi All,

Made a little progress on my unlisted, Army bird Mohawk...Wink.

The Martin Baker ejection seats are very accurate when compared to reference photos of the real deal...

The IP is pretty sweet too, too bad I can`t do it justice..

After some confusion deciphering the instruction sheet, I put the bulkhead and `pit deck together...again, very deatailed IMO...

And the last thing I did for the night , and the most frustrating, was closing up the fuselage. The instructions say to glue the cockpit to the right fuse` half and the IP to the right, now whadda ya think happened next?? You got it, I was cursin` like a truck driver....Bang Head. I have no pics of it but, to get the IP to fit I had to remove the rudder pedals and shave an 1/8 inch off the front edge of the control lever pedestal. I did a lot of work building up the pedals, only to have to remove them. After I calmed down a bit, I realized you prolly won`t be able to see them anyhow, once everthing is closed up...

That`s all for now. Thanks for looking!

Len

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, October 16, 2012 9:36 PM

Enrico, that Hun is simply SUPERB! You are a master!

Ken, great work so far on the intakes there. I have to watch how you do this as I have never seen the process for using those before.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:56 PM

Hi Everyone,

Slow and steady once again.  Tonight I was down to using a file.  I am glad I used the approach that I did.  It worked out pretty good.  I took some pictures with it just fitted together without it being glued of course:

 

In this next shot you are looking down the inside of the intake:

 

Tomorrow night I will start on the other side.

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:53 PM

Hi Enrico,

I totally agree with Jimmy D.  That is some great detail work you are doing there!  Fabulous!  Yes  Yes 

Ken

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Posted by Italian Starfighter on Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:33 AM

Hi all.....not finished yet.......same other updates........Ciao Enrico.

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, October 15, 2012 9:46 PM

Hi Everyone,

Here is tonight's work, slow but steady.  The instructions are not very clear on where to cut so I am cutting on the lean side which is going to take longer.  First I drilled holes to use to help guide my micro saw:

 Next I started sawing.  This is all the farther I got.  After I get this side done and know how much and where to cut, the other side will be quicker:

 

Ken

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Monday, October 15, 2012 8:57 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

troublemaker66

Hey Ken, read over this list several times and couldn`t find an OV-1A/ JOV-1A Grumman "Mohawk" listed. That`s what I`m currently building for this GB....Wink.  Just thought I`d let ya know..lol.

Len

Hi Len,

Thanks for the message, but the Mohawk was an Army bird.  My list is only of USAF birds.  It would be a lot longer if it included the other branches of service!  Smile 

Ken

Sorry,forgot about that...list was so long I thought it was everything!

Len Pytlewski

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, October 15, 2012 8:41 PM

troublemaker66

Hey Ken, read over this list several times and couldn`t find an OV-1A/ JOV-1A Grumman "Mohawk" listed. That`s what I`m currently building for this GB....Wink.  Just thought I`d let ya know..lol.

Len

Hi Len,

Thanks for the message, but the Mohawk was an Army bird.  My list is only of USAF birds.  It would be a lot longer if it included the other branches of service!  Smile 

Ken

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Monday, October 15, 2012 7:02 PM

Hey Ken, read over this list several times and couldn`t find an OV-1A/ JOV-1A Grumman "Mohawk" listed. That`s what I`m currently building for this GB....Wink.  Just thought I`d let ya know..lol.

Len

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, October 15, 2012 6:39 PM

Nice job Mike!  It has that "washed for inspection" look where they couldn't get all of the oil stain out of the paint.

Ken

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Posted by mikeymize on Monday, October 15, 2012 3:35 PM

troublemaker66

Looking good Mike! Hurt my neck trying to look at the box art tho`.....

Yeah, sorry 'bout that troublemaker, I'm not quite sure what went on there. As to the overall paint I think I should have added some white to the green and brown colors to make it look better. I didn't even give  it a thought until it was too late; next time.... Here's some more pics . Will add centerline tank and pitot tube that broke off , I wish they wouldn't mold them on; I always break them!

"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time".


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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, October 14, 2012 4:09 PM

Greetings everyone,

My good friend Russ pointed out some more aircraft that should be on that list of aircraft used by the USAF during the Vietnam War.  They are a group of C-130Es that were known as Combat Talons used for special operations missions.  In 1977 they were all grouped together and designated as MC-130 but that was after the war.  During the war they were designated as the following; C-130E(CT) "Clamp", C-130E(I) "Rivet Clamps", C-130E(S) "Swap", and C-130E(Y) "Yank" (formerly "Yard").  So here is the list with the new aircraft included:

A-1E Skyraider
A-1H Skyraider
A-1J Skyraider
A-26A (B-26K) Counter Invader
A-37A Dragonfly
A-37B Dragonfly
A-7D Corsair II
AC-119G Shadow
AC-119K Stinger
AC-130A Spectre
AC-130E Spectre
AC-47D Spooky
AT-28D Trojan
AU-23A Peacemaker (Turbo-Porter)
B-26B Invader
B-26C Invader
B-52D Stratofortress
B-52F Stratofortress
B-52G Stratofortress
B-57B Canberra
B-57C Canberra
B-57E Canberra
B-57G Canberra
C-118A Liftmaster (DC-6)
C-123B Provider
C-123K Provider
C-124C Globemaster II
C-130A Hercules
C-130B Hercules
C-130E Hercules
C-130E(CT) "Clamp" Combat Talon
C-130E(I) "Rivet Clamps" Combat   Talon
C-130E(S) "Swap" Combat Talon
C-130E(Y) "Yank" (formerly   "Yard") Combat Talon
C-130H Hercules
C-133 Cargomaster
C-141A Starlifter
C-46 Commando
C-47 Skytrain
C-5A Galaxy
C-7 (CV-2) Caribou
C-97 Stratofreighter (ANG transport)
C-9A Nightingale
CH-3A
DC-130A Hercules
DC-130E Hercules
EB-66B Destroyer
EB-66C Destroyer
EB-66E Destroyer
EC-121D Warning Star
EC-121M Warning Star
EC-121R Warning Star
EC-47N Skytrain
EC-47P Skytrain
EC-47Q Skytrain
EF-105F Wild Weasel
EF-4C Phantom II
F-100D Super Sabre
F-100F Super Sabre
F-102A Delta Dagger
F-104C Starfighter
F-104D Starfighter
F-105D Thunderchief
F-105F "Wild Weasel"
F-105G "Wild Weasel"
F-111A Aardvark
F-4C Phantom II
F-4D Phantom II
F-4E Phantom II
F-5A "Skoshi Tiger"
F-5B "Skoshi Tiger"
F-5C "Skoshi Tiger"
HC-130H Hercules
HC-130P Hercules
HH-3E "Jolly Green"
HH-43B Huskie
HH-43F Huskie
HH-53B "Super Jolly Green"
HH-53C "Super Jolly Green"
HU-16B Albatross
KB-50J Superfortress
KC-135A Stratotanker
KC-135Q Stratotanker
NC-123K Black Spot
O-1D Bird Dog
O-1E Bird Dog
O-1F Bird Dog
O-1G Bird Dog
O-2A Skymaster
O-2B Skymaster
OA-37B Dragonfly
OV-10A Bronco
QU-22B Bonanza
RB-26C Invader
RB-47H Stratojet
RB-57E Canberra "Patricia Lynn"
RB-66B Destroyer
RC-135C Big Team
RC-135D Rivet Brass
RC-135M Rivet Card
RC-135U Combat Sent
RF-101C Voodoo
RF-4C Phantom II
SC-47D Skytrain
SC-54D Skymaster (DC-4)
SR-71A Blackbird
T-28B Trojan
T-28D Nomad
TF-102A Delta Dagger
U-10A Courier
U-10B Courier
U-10D Courier
U-2C Dragon Lady
U-2F Dragon Lady
U-2R Dragon Lady
U-3A Administrator "Blue Canoe"   (Cessna 310)
UC-123B Provider
UC-123K Provider
UH-1F Huey
UH-1P Huey

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:24 PM

Hi Everyone,

I washed all of the plastic in the kit today with a vinegar and water solution to make sure to get rid of any residual mold release agents.  I also gathered all of my aftermarket parts for this kit which took a little bit of time to find.  Tomorrow I plan on starting on the seamless intakes.

Ken

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  • From: USA
Posted by Striker8241 on Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:49 PM

Hey Ken,

I was looking at your VN list of aircraft and there is an interesting US Army plane you might want to add - the Beechcraft U-21A Ute. The U-21 was the military version of the Beechcraft King Air (an example picture is at http://earththreats.com/2012/05/u-s-finds-remains-of-soldier-missing-from-vietnam-war-plane-crash/) These planes used to fly into and out of Nha Trang all the time. Some had more colorful paint jobs than this one. The one in this picture appears to have only one blade antenna but the ones I saw had as many as 4 or 5 blade antennas of varying lengths, which means they carried specialized comm equipment. I suspect these planes were used to contact special units in the field.

Also, there were several versions of the C-119 used over there. Early on, they were configured as gunships. Later on, they mostly dropped leaflets, or so I was told. Some carried a large lens array mounted in one of the side doors that generated an incredibly bright beam of light. They would fly around and illuminate suspected VC ground targets while fighter aircraft and/or artillary worked them over. That version would make an interesting model.

Wuups! Just thought of one more - the Lockheed EC-121 Warning Star aircraft. It's an old Supper Connie modified to monitor special personnel sensors dropped along the Ho Chi Min trail.

Anyway, thought you might be interested Smile. My apologies if you already have these listed later on - I haven't gotten through the whole thread yet.

Cheers, bud,

Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:36 PM

Hello, All,

Glad I stumbled onto this group build. Viet Nam was my war. This is a great thread - I'm still working my way through it.

Cheers

Russ

 

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Saturday, October 13, 2012 12:42 PM

Looking good Mike! Hurt my neck trying to look at the box art tho`.....

Len Pytlewski

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:54 AM

Nice work on the A-1H Skyraider Mike!  The paint job came out looking very nice!  Yes  Yes 

Ken

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Posted by mikeymize on Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:48 AM

"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time".


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Posted by mikeymize on Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:43 AM

Well, after a little setback I got back on track with the VNAF Skyraider. I used the paint call-outs from the directions: field green and camo brown but am less than happy with the choice. Doesn't look completely right to me but too late now. Anyway, did weathering and panel wash with acrylics as the base coat was MM enamels. I've used Tamiya "smoke" in the past for exhaust but have never really been happy with it. I always either use too much and/or I can never get it to look matte enough so this time I used a mixture of water-based grey and black wash which I like better. Also, I included the boxart as I had forgotten it in my first WIP's Enjoy.

"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time".


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Posted by Tal Afar Dave on Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:16 AM

Hey Enrico and Stick, great Huns!!  Trouble, can't believe all the problems with the A7; what a nightmare!!  Looking forward to getting into the mix!!

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, October 12, 2012 9:39 PM

professordeath

Ahh...good ole Hasegawa Phantom! Did you have that in the stash or did you have to track one down online?

Can't wait to see it come together. I've built most of their 1/48 Phantoms before, but never the E.

Hi Jimmy D.

I did have to track one down a little over a year ago.  I was patient until one came along.  I do have a stack of aftermarket parts to put on it, so it should turn out nicely detailed!

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, October 12, 2012 8:52 PM

Hi Everyone,

Well here it is!  The kit that I am going to put that cockpit into!  (1/48 scale by the way)

 

I am using this kit because the F-4EJ is a "hard wing", meaning it does not have slats.  The F-4E used in Vietnam did not have slats except for a very few at the very end of the war.  They were added later after the war.  The F-4E that I am building did not have them at the time period that I am representing.

Here is a shot of the instruction booklet:

 Here are the sprue shots:

 Here is a shot of the wings.  Another nice thing about this kit is the fact that the landing gear bulges that Hasegawa put into the molds for the Navy and Marines versions of their kits are not on this one, so no sanding and grinding!

 

I will be ready to start on this hopefully tomorrow.

Ken

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Posted by Italian Starfighter on Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:25 PM

@Falconmod:very beautiful Da Nang F-8......compliments.Ciao Enrico.

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 5:30 PM

troublemaker66

Well...I`m done with the AMT A-7...what a shame, had the makings of a decent kit but weak, brittle plastic ruined it. Had all the cracks in the rear fuse repaired and almost sanded smooth, then another appeared..right at the cockpit!

I just don`t want to put any more time in on this kit if that`s just gonna keep happening.

SO....here`s my alternative, Roden`s OV-1A / JOV1A Mohawk....

...a few sprue shots...

...and a neat little print of the box art...

Looks to be a fairly detailed cockpit...I was looking at an AM `pit but don`t think I`ll need it. I also read a couple reviews...the consensus is to build it with speed brakes open, same with the canopy....some tough fit issues otherwise....and I certainly don`t need any more trouble now, right! 

Going to start work as soon as I hit the "Post" button.....Big Smile

Len

Hi Len,

That is too bad about your A-7, that must be way beyond frustrating!  I look forward to seeing your Mohawk build and hope you have a much better experience with it!

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 5:27 PM

falconmod

Finally some pictures to post.

So what do you think?

Hi Falconmod,

I think it looks real nice!  Good job!  Yes  Yes 

Ken

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 1:33 PM

Ok...some progress already,,lol,

As usual, the build starts with the cockpit. I can never figure out how to do the "decal behind the IP" thingy, so I used a silver paint marker to fill in the dials, then painted black over the whole thing. I will go back and uncover the dials with a knife blade tip.

...lots of parts in the office...

...after a little paint...

XF-1 Tamiya flat black

and MM enamel flat aircraft interior gray 2739...

and lastly, XF-58 Olive Drab for the seat cushions...

After things dry a bit, I`ll start assembly. Lots of little parts...I`ll definately be cursing and talkin` to myself tonight...give the wife and kids a good laugh anyways...lol.

Thanks for looking!

Len

Len Pytlewski

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:37 AM

falconmod

That is the same kit as my ESCI A-7, my plastic wasn't that brittle but the quality was bad,  I think I'll invest in a hobby boss maybe.

Could be the same molds. I thought the kit wasn`t bad overall...no "Tamigawa" but lot`s of room for "gizmology". Heck, I had a Hasegawa Ki-84 crumble up on me the same way...come to think about it, both kits are about the same age...maybe a batch of bad plastic back then...?

Len Pytlewski

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Posted by falconmod on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:32 AM

That is the same kit as my ESCI A-7, my plastic wasn't that brittle but the quality was bad,  I think I'll invest in a hobby boss maybe.

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:24 AM

Well...I`m done with the AMT A-7...what a shame, had the makings of a decent kit but weak, brittle plastic ruined it. Had all the cracks in the rear fuse repaired and almost sanded smooth, then another appeared..right at the cockpit!

I just don`t want to put any more time in on this kit if that`s just gonna keep happening.

SO....here`s my alternative, Roden`s OV-1A / JOV1A Mohawk....

...a few sprue shots...

...and a neat little print of the box art...

Looks to be a fairly detailed cockpit...I was looking at an AM `pit but don`t think I`ll need it. I also read a couple reviews...the consensus is to build it with speed brakes open, same with the canopy....some tough fit issues otherwise....and I certainly don`t need any more trouble now, right! 

Going to start work as soon as I hit the "Post" button.....Big Smile

Len

Len Pytlewski

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