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Fw 190 Butcher Bird 2013 (extended to June 2014) Group Build

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, September 6, 2014 8:02 AM

Man I hear ya on that spinner decal. Most of mine take in the upwards of 7-10 coats of Microsol before they "behave". Good job on yours.

I'll get your pic posted soon brutha!

                   

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Saturday, September 6, 2014 7:53 AM

Mustang -- the spinner is a decal from the Superscale sheet for Rudel's bird. it was designed for a different kit with a very different incidence on the cone, because it really did not want to fit and had to be coaxed into place with setting solution and a knife. It'll look better with some touch-ups and a clearcoat, at the moment it's actually a bit scabby from some angles!

Re the 152, my second pic from the top in the sequence I posted would be a good one!

More updates soon,

Thanks again,

Mike/TB379

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, September 6, 2014 4:28 AM

Mike:This one's coming right along Mike!  That prop spinner looks like a million bucks. Did you use a mask or decal on that? Oh and another question---Which pic of that beauty of a 152 did you want in the Completed Builds section.?

Clemens:Youre gonna have to go to work in the kit manufactuing business. Youre the next step in the assembly line of being able to rival Franklin Mint. Hell instead of the kit manufacture putting the sprues in the box, they could just give them to you to assemble (assembly line style that is) and kick out completed builds to sell. Good going here bud! Yes

                   

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Saturday, September 6, 2014 3:50 AM

Right, made a little progress here, I got the canopy interior colour sprayed, then changed to black and preshaded the airframe. I was hoping to go right on to the 76 but the AB needs a strip and clean before I get to the main paintjob. Here she is with the colours to be used:

It's a good job the underpainting doesn't need to be precise -- because it sure won't be! :-)

Target for tomorrow is the 76, early enough to harden off during the day so it can be masked later, and maybe get to the 83.

Cheers, M/TB379

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Saturday, September 6, 2014 12:12 AM

Joe -- thanks, buddy! I accept that pat on the back with the greatest gratitude! It was a challenge, to be sure, and I'm just glad I made a decent job of it!

I've made some progress on the Hobby Boss D-9 yesterday and today. The windscreen needed attaching, there was some rubbing down to do on the underside, then the canopy masks went on. It's actually a Ta-152 set which is slightly different and needed modification and completion with tape. In the end, I could have done the whole thing with tape, given the corrections necessary. Hey ho... Here she is, first a state-of-the-project shot:

And here's the canopy, with masking complete:

Next up, mask the wheelwells, tailwheel and gun barrels, then spray the 66 over the canopy, preshade in NATO black, and, if there's time, get the 76 onto the underside.

I'm hoping to just maybe have this one done by the time the decal issue for the A-8 is sorted, and cruise through them all...

Cheers, M/TB379

PS: I checked the decals in that Academy A-6 and they are useless, so that one remains on the back burner until the AM sheet I was going to use for it turns up -- it's around here somewhere...

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Posted by JOE RIX on Friday, September 5, 2014 9:32 PM

Clemens: You Sir are making dynamite progress. Each part for each aircraft looks great. i especially like the effect you achieved with the mix of gold and titanium. That really does look good. Keep hanging in there buddy. It's coming along just fine.

Mike: You are a prime example of the saying, "When somebody hands you a lemon, make lemonade". You have transformed that cantankerous kit into one gorgeous piece of "Hot Damn"! That is a really fine example of excellent modeling skills. Give yourself a firm pat on the back and accept my hardy "WELL DONE"!! It has indeed been a real pleasure to watch you bring that kit to life.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, September 5, 2014 3:38 PM

Greg
Re the drills, I use mine more often than I'd have thought

I hear that!! I've gotten to where I'll use the pin vise to hold tire/wheel assys for painting. I usually drill into the tread on the bottom where the tire meets the ground to hold it for painting.

                   

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, September 4, 2014 8:20 PM

SchattenSpartan

I'd prefer to just glue them in there, but the PE set I'm using requires you to place PE parts around and in the holes. I guess I'll get me a few small drills at my LHS then... Thanks for the tip!

Ahah!! That will solve the problem of what to fasten that center one to. Should be cool. Guessing with the PE as you described, the square hole won't have to be terribly accurate, which should help.

Re the drills, I use mine more often than I'd have thought. Don't forget a good pin vise! Tip: My Tamiya pin vise is the best one I've ever had.

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Thursday, September 4, 2014 6:03 PM

Thanks Greg, Rigidrider and Clemens -- I must say it looks good in the display case and in the end that's what matters! I'll forge ahead on the others today and hopefully have some progress to report tonight.

Clemens, you're certainly ambitious to work with the most temperamental kits, and then increase their complexity with the dreaded etch! My hat is off to you, sir!

Cheers, Mike/TB379

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, September 4, 2014 4:37 PM

I'd prefer to just glue them in there, but the PE set I'm using requires you to place PE parts around and in the holes. I guess I'll get me a few small drills at my LHS then... Thanks for the tip!

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, September 4, 2014 4:33 PM

Clemens, I just glued mine on without cutting out below (never thought of it to be honest). I think you saw a pic early August.

If you cut out those two that are together, not sure how you will glue the middle one?

Were it me, probably drill holes, then clean up with a #5 blade and a jewelers file. Pretty small area to work, for sure.

Be curious to hear what the real answer is, now that I've spouted off. :)

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, September 4, 2014 2:56 PM

I need some help with my Eduard A-8...

I'm using the Eduard PE set to dress up the gun bays, gear bays and engine, but It requires some slight modifications to the base kit:

I have to cut out the cooling flaps behind the engine so I can add the PE and I simply have no clue how to do this properly. They are way too small for my saws...

Any advice would be a great help...

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, September 4, 2014 1:21 PM

Thanks, guys!

Mike, your 152 looks magnificent! I like the clean look you went with!

Greg: I actually took all the "close-up" pics from at least 50cm away and simply zoomed in on the photo afterwards. I got 24 megapixels to work with so I might as well use them... Wink I'm only taking pictures with al lthe pre-configured modes of my camera ATM because I still have to figure out all the stuff I can adjust in manual mode.

Joe: No curses were yelled at the assembly line yet, but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get my fair share of problems once I start joining the fuselages with the wings...

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, September 4, 2014 11:20 AM

Rigidrider

You know, Photographic mag has a forum to discuss such things, this is Fine Scale model forum. (LOLOL) Greg... sorry, JUST KIDDING! Lolol... I m realy glad someone here understands camera issues, I sure dont. LOL... I wish I had a better knowledge about such things, but my Nikon doesnt have interchangable lens like the Richo I have but the Richo is SLR. Film shooter. Again Greg... just kidding!

Yep, I got carried away, Doug. Smile Someone starts talking camera stuff and I have a hard time keeping my mouth shut. Wink

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Posted by Rigidrider on Thursday, September 4, 2014 10:39 AM

You know, Photographic mag has a forum to discuss such things, this is Fine Scale model forum. (LOLOL) Greg... sorry, JUST KIDDING! Lolol... I m realy glad someone here understands camera issues, I sure dont. LOL... I wish I had a better knowledge about such things, but my Nikon doesnt have interchangable lens like the Richo I have but the Richo is SLR. Film shooter. Again Greg... just kidding!

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, September 4, 2014 10:21 AM

Clemens, finally some pics! Engines and gear bays look great indeed.

Pics look good, you are learning the Nikon quickly. You'll just have to figure out how close the Nikor 18-105 will focus (I don't have that one so all I can go by is the specs). Resolution and image quality from the D5300 is pretty good, you've probably all ready found that you can get away with cropping tighter than you used to. Some playing around will let you know how far you can go.

You might try shooting close-ups at around 85-90mm. The lens will be a bit sharper there than at full 105mm zoom. That said, they look fine as is.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Thursday, September 4, 2014 10:15 AM

Outstanding finish Mike! Bravo!

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, September 4, 2014 10:13 AM

Mike, your 152 looks great. It's hard to believe by the finished product that she gave you so much trouble.

Hat's off for persistence and a job well done. Be watching for the D-9.

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Thursday, September 4, 2014 7:41 AM

Thanks, Mustang, and thanks for running such a fantastic GB! It's great to be part of it and to have the chance to work with such a great bunch of talented craftsmen.

How about the second pic from the top? That one shows off the paintwork nicely and is a pleasing angle.

I'll make a start on the D-9 tomorrow, beginning with masking in prep for the canopy interior colour and the preshade.

Cheers, Mike/TB379

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, September 4, 2014 3:06 AM

Clemens you are definitely a man on fire! The photos looks great and the progress is simply awesome. I don't know how  one can build that many models at one time and not say one curse word. .....................................or did you already?

                   

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, September 4, 2014 3:04 AM

What a job from a kit that gave you so many problems! I had serrious issues with my Eduard A8/R2 initially because of warping issues and know what you are talking about when you say a "kit that fought you the whole way". This one seems like it threw you more curve balls than mine did though. Way to go Mike. Looks like you pulled this one off pal. Let me know which one you want to see in the finished builds section of the intro post.

Looking forward to seeing your D-9 next.

                   

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Thursday, September 4, 2014 1:43 AM

SS -- you should be licensed as a Focke-Wulf assembly plant! This is the most concerted production line modelling I think I've ever seen, and to such excellent standard too! This will be a magnificent schwarm -- how about a flightline or hanger diorama to display them all???

I'm calling the Ta-152 done. It's been an education building a state-of-the-art kit from 25 years ago because Trimaster, for all the praise they have had over the years, and their near legendary status, had to start somewhere, and this kit was in many ways a let-down. I certainly hope Hobby Boss do the H-series planes as well as the -C series, because they will be a breeze to build in comparison to this one, which in essence fought me to the end, with dodgy decals, sloppy fit, vague instructions and so forth. There are a number of parts missing because either there are no locators for them or the instructions do not make positioning clear, or the part was simply impossible to remove from the sprue without breaking it. One of the main gear actuators went that way. There is a  missing antenna under the fuselage, because there was no locator hole for it, nor did the plans mention to drill one at a time when it would have been practical. Lining up the main gear was a case of superglue and prayer, and the main shocks were moulded in the fully open position, giving the plane a serious nose-up stance -- however if the shocks had been moulded to represent weight, the moraine antenna would not have cleared the ground!

I decided it was finished today, I had no more time to invest in this project -- I skipped wash detailing the main gear and door interiors, which perhaps I should not have... I also skipped the loading decals for the outside of the doors, because I've seen Green 1 depicted without them, or with the loading data for the Dora-9, and Italeri have provided a visibly different decal, which is too large for the area! I also skipped the antenna wire, if one day I'm feeling masochistic I'll go back and rig one! The canopy, although a poor fit, does not want to budge, so I'll leave it where it is.

I was restrained with pigment work and metal dry brushing, so the plane is represented not long after work-up. Without further ado, here's the pics:

Not completed to the degree I might have liked, but I know when a kit fights and to what extent it's worth engaging in battle -- and while this one would not get by a judge's eye, it looks pretty good in the display case if I say so myself. I hope you like it, and all comments are welcome.

Now, with SS building a squadron more, the least I can do is complete the Hobby Boss D-9 in Rudel's markings, and maybe even throw in a 1:72 Academy A-5 I started way back for Reich Defenders III -- nit necessarily officially! I'll get the A-8 to the finish post as the decal issues are solved -- hopefully soon!

Cheers, Mike/TB379

 

 

 

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, September 3, 2014 5:37 PM

Well I guess it's update time!

I started off by spraying everything flat black to provide a base for the RLM 02. The black paint eliminated the problem of having those white shims in the gear bays after fixing the steps in the eduard kits. It also served as a nice, dark primer that created shadows in all the hard to reach recesses of the rather complex gear bays. Then I sprayed the gear bays with Gunze's RLM 02 in several light coats untill I was happy with the overall coverage. Some touch-ups where pure black paint was still visible were needed, but nothing special. That Gunze color is really good BTW. I like to spray my paints very thin (usually 2 parts paint and 3-4 parts thinner, depending on what I want to do) and only spray very light coats, but it still covered very well and I was basically done after 3 coats of paint. That's the best coverage I had so far with such a light color.

The engines' "bulkheads" (they are just mounting plates and non-existant on the real 190s) were sprayed flat black too and masked, then I painted the engines "Steel Red". All the pipes were brush-painted using a 1:1 mix of Tamiya's "Flat Aluminum" and "Titanium Gold" (I wanted to give them a slight gold sheen and I think it worked out) The thicker pipe at the bottom of the engine was painted with pure Aluminum to add a bit of variety.

The leather gun sleeves of the Hasegawa gear bays are brush-painted with Red Brown (Tamiya as well) and the engines and gear bays got a black-brown oil wash. I wanted to get a greasy look on the engines so I used a rather thick wash for them, I think it worked out quite nicely.

There are only 3 engines! One disappeared! Surprise More on that later... Wink

The Engine pics were taken with my new D5300 (first tme using it for model photography). It does a way better job at taking high-contrast pics. It's really hard to get nice close-up shots with that large 18-105mm lens though... What do you guys think? Yay or nay?

From left to right, top to bottom: F-8, A-5, D-9, D-9 weekend, D-13, D-11. The Tamiya kit as well as the Eduard A-8s are not in this pic because the Tamiya and one of the Eduards needs repainting in the gear bays. The other one is still waiting for some PE before I can paint her.

Some close-up pics:

Hasegawa A-5:

Hasegawa F-8:

Eduard D-9/D-11/D-13:

Eduard D-9 weekend:

This one's the reason why I only used 3 out of 4 engines. I remember reading somewhere that some earlier Doras had gear bay covers similar to the A-series 190s. Eduard provides this part in their kits but marks it as "not for use", so I decided to model my Weekend Edition with the cover in place (I don't want all of them to look the same down there Big Smile).

Well that's all for today folks, I hope you like it!

Cheers, Clemens

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, September 3, 2014 5:07 PM

Doug, the same thing happened to me with another package this year. I ordered some stuff (including 2 190s) directly at Eduard's store and the post office sent the box back right after recieving it. The adress on the box was correct. Eduard took care of that problem though so it eventually arrived here...

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Posted by JOE RIX on Wednesday, September 3, 2014 5:02 PM

Oh Man that bites, Clemens. But, Joe is right when he advises you to hang there. Have some faith and I'm sure it will turn up. By all means I do hope they are right when they said it was delivered somewhere in Austria and they didn't mean Australia.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Wednesday, September 3, 2014 4:04 PM

And that's where those damn morons messed up: There is no box at the post office! It's just not there! And nobody knows where it landed! I complained about this incident and they are trying to find the packet now. Apperently it was deposited at a post office somewhere in Austria.

Clemens...

NICEEEEE...

I watched a package come across country with the tracking no. and it arrived in Atlanta... then it started to move again... almost all the way back where it came from, finally got here after about 3 weeks... Just... Well Damn!!!

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, September 3, 2014 2:40 PM

Thanks guys, I really hope they figure out what went wrong. The stuff in that box wasn't cheap...

I'm going to take the pictures for the update now and it should be up a bit later tonight.

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Posted by Greg on Wednesday, September 3, 2014 2:27 PM

mustang1989

Hang in there Clemens. Jeez!

I gotta second that.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, September 3, 2014 5:18 AM

Hang in there Clemens. Jeez!

                   

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Posted by Greg on Tuesday, September 2, 2014 8:49 PM

Clemens, I'm surprised an Austrian would lose anything! Y'all seem to organised and efficient.

I'm sure your stuff will show up.

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