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Still Too Many Props GB - 2013

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  • Member since
    April 2004
  • From: Sydney
Posted by cossack on Saturday, February 2, 2013 4:42 AM

John,

Hope these help.  Sorry for the light - I had to work flat, cos the battery on my camera was getting low!

I didn't get the ramps - they were both closed up today.

Hope these help:

Let me know if there is anything else you might want :)

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  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Friday, February 1, 2013 4:23 PM

That's right. The early 'G's had the waists across from each other. Then in the middle of production they switched to staggered waists. So it boils down to the particular aircraft you are modeling, does it have staggered waist positions or not? There is no kit in 1/48 that has them staggered, you will have to scratch a new one and plug the old one in order to get staggered waists, but you can use the window piece as a template for the hole and plug. The newer 1/72 scale kits give you an option of staggered or not

  

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  • From: Borlando Fla home of the rat
Posted by TREYZX10R on Friday, February 1, 2013 4:06 PM

B-17Pilot thanks for the tips and link! I'm dreading fitting these resin bits in and if I ca'nt get the sides to fit I'm leaving them off as well. I have a huge problem now looking at the waist gunners positions,they appear to be wrong for the 'G' and should be staggered? If so whats the fix or is there another kit out there that has them molded staggered already?thanks in advance Trey

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  • From: Australia
Posted by Helo H-34 on Friday, February 1, 2013 5:55 AM

Two or three pic's of the cockpit and storage racks should do the trick Paul .

And one of the step from the cabin floor up to the cockpit and perhaps if possible the rear ramp .

In any case , I will most gratefull of whatever pic's you can post and I'm a little envious of you being around a 1:1 scale "Boo" ...........Modelers heaven !

John .

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  • From: Sydney
Posted by cossack on Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:49 PM

John,

Heading down tomorrow ... so will take the camera for you, and get you some shots.  Want them posted here in the forum?

And I don't mind volunteering down there ... working in 1:1 scale has its rewards.  

Paul

  • Member since
    September 2009
  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:45 PM

Trey, the build of my B-17 is buried somewhere in the 1/48 B-17 Group Build that's floating around in the aircraft section (cs.finescale.com/.../105108.aspx).

IIRC correctly those side panels didn't fit all to well for me either, so I left them off and used an Eduard update set, among other things, that updates the kit's sidewalls. Oh yeah, test fit that cockpit floor in your fuselodge before doing anything on it. I had one h-e-double hockey sticks of a time getting it in. Lots of sanding on both the resin parts and fuselodge

  

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  • From: Australia
Posted by Helo H-34 on Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:35 PM

cossack

Gentlemen,

I am recent returner to the forums (time ran away with me!!).

I would also like to join this GB.  I started in a Beaufighter / Torbeau over the weekend - the Tamiya 1/48 MkX kit.  Only after markets will be some Coastal Command decals I picked up a while ago, as I aim to build the equipment flown either by the RNZAF or the NZ RAF squadrons of WWII.  So it is going to be done up as a 489 squadron aircraft.

Helo - like to watch how you go on the Caribou.  I am a volunteer at HARS (www.hars.org.au), so if you need any detail photos, let me know ... "Beauty" and "Beast" are both in our care down at Albion Park, and so I cna climb all over them to get photos for you.  Sorry, though - they are not in your camo scheme :)

Paul

Hi Paul , I certainly admire you for giving up a lot of your spare time to volunteer for HARS . It would be great if you had some cockpit photo's of the Caribou you could share . I'm particulary interested in how deep is the step down from the cockpit floor to the cabin floor as I'm not sure as to where to position my piece of sheet plastic I cut for the cabin/cargo floor area ?

Kind regards ,

John .

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    August 2009
  • From: Borlando Fla home of the rat
Posted by TREYZX10R on Thursday, January 31, 2013 7:41 PM

Thanks Bish!

I'm still sorting out the resin bits,the seat supports were pretty tricky and delicate

test fitting some of the parts and its looking like I've got issues ahead,some of the side parts are not matching the contours of the bulkheads they attach to.

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Thursday, January 31, 2013 3:37 PM

Looking good Trey. Nice to see the GB really get going. Looking forward to all the great builds.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Borlando Fla home of the rat
Posted by TREYZX10R on Thursday, January 31, 2013 3:30 PM

Thank goodness!!! You scared the you know what out of me B-17Pilot,alls well tho and that pic is a huge help thanx for posting it up ! Is there a thread of your build,if so would love to see it. Thanks again Trey

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  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:53 PM

Sorry to worry you, the angle through me off.Bang Head Sorry about that, that's correct. Not getting enough sleep last night is catching up to me.

Found a photo when I installed mine a couple years back:

  

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  • From: Borlando Fla home of the rat
Posted by TREYZX10R on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:37 PM

B17Pilot yes they are glued! Before I saw you're warning I went even further according to the directions this is correct.

 

If this is'nt right I'm truly up a creek

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  • From: Hoodsport, WA
Posted by Dogfish_7 on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:37 AM

No. It's the 1:72 version. That's plenty big enough for this bird. Was able to fly on one back in '68.

Bruce

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  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:23 AM

TREYZX10R

B17Pilot I'm just getting started on the resin bits and found your missing seat,mine came with 3!

 

I knew that seat went some where!

These pieces aren't glued yet are they? If so I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the front bulkhead needs to go under the cockpit floor, as its the tunnel to the nose section. So the front bulkhead, cockpit floor and rear bulkhead should form a 'S' shape.

  

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    September 2009
  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:18 AM

Helo, Cossack, and Dogfish - I have you guys listed on the front page, Welcome to the group!

Dogfish - is that Herc a 1/72 or did you go with the big 1/48 one?

  

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  • From: Hoodsport, WA
Posted by Dogfish_7 on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 6:29 AM

Put me down for an Itaeri/ Testors Lockheed C-130 Hercules. It's been about 50% percent since the mid 90s.

Bruce

  • Member since
    April 2004
  • From: Sydney
Posted by cossack on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:23 AM

Gentlemen,

I am recent returner to the forums (time ran away with me!!).

I would also like to join this GB.  I started in a Beaufighter / Torbeau over the weekend - the Tamiya 1/48 MkX kit.  Only after markets will be some Coastal Command decals I picked up a while ago, as I aim to build the equipment flown either by the RNZAF or the NZ RAF squadrons of WWII.  So it is going to be done up as a 489 squadron aircraft.

Helo - like to watch how you go on the Caribou.  I am a volunteer at HARS (www.hars.org.au), so if you need any detail photos, let me know ... "Beauty" and "Beast" are both in our care down at Albion Park, and so I cna climb all over them to get photos for you.  Sorry, though - they are not in your camo scheme :)

Paul

  • Member since
    April 2005
  • From: Australia
Posted by taxtp on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 9:24 PM

This is going to be a project to remember. I can't even raise the willpower to build a 1/72 one. I'll look forward to both of these huge models.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

  • Member since
    August 2009
  • From: Borlando Fla home of the rat
Posted by TREYZX10R on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:40 PM

John really dig that cammo scheme,looking forward to seeing you tackle that one!

B17Pilot I'm just getting started on the resin bits and found your missing seat,mine came with 3!

This is all I've braved so far

 

  • Member since
    September 2003
  • From: Australia
Posted by Helo H-34 on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 5:10 PM

Hi B17 Pilot ;

I was looking to build a 1/72 Hobbycraft DHC Caribou finished in the colour scheme for the 38 Sqn RAAF 1990 .

I see that cross-over builds are allowed , as the Caribou is part of the ANZAC GB as well .

There is a little bit of preliminary work done by cutting the rear ramp open and a while back I came across an article on an amazing 1/48 build by a gentlemen named David Charles over at www.internetmodeler.com , where the builder did an awesome job on the front cockpit . So I printed out the article and WIP pic's to use as reference for my build , although my skill levels don't match Mr Charles , I think I can make some basic modifications to the Hobbycraft cockpit .

I'll be using the Aussie Decal sheet No. A72027 and finishing my Caribou in the Desert Red / Tan (flat earth) / Black scheme

So if its okay , I would like to join in with everyone else .

John .

  • Member since
    April 2010
Posted by Theuns on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:17 AM

Thanx.

Nothing special about this build, I have not done any 1/144 yet so I am learning to work so small.

The only add-on was a cockpit floor, rear bulkhead, instrument pannel and seats to make the gaping big hole in that area look less "wrong"  LOL!

1/144 Minicraft B-26

Theuns

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  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Monday, January 28, 2013 2:31 PM

Welcome to our little group! You're on the flight line!

  

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Posted by Theuns on Sunday, January 27, 2013 12:03 AM

Hi please count me in with a 1/144 minicraft B-26 I got in a raffle yesterday.

Theuns

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  • From: Weiden, Germany
Posted by Beckyhead on Thursday, January 24, 2013 3:02 PM

Thanks for all the compliments on the lancs. Looking forward to seeing other builds on this GB.

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  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Monday, January 21, 2013 8:29 AM

Try the 1/48 scale version of the F-82, then you'll know about fit issues, or lack of fit I should say

  

  • Member since
    January 2013
Posted by jon333444 on Monday, January 21, 2013 12:00 AM

well finally got to work on the  F-82G, started with the wings tonight looks like some small fit issues but nothing some filler cant fix :) should have some pics up tomorrow :)

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  • From: Borlando Fla home of the rat
Posted by TREYZX10R on Sunday, January 20, 2013 9:13 PM

Awesome looking Lanc Major Woods,you really did it justice!

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  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:52 PM

Good looking Lanc!

  

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:50 AM

Thats looking nice. Wish i had known you were looking for referance on the undercarrage. I have a couple of pics of the wheels bays on the BBMF Lanc. Your right though, its mostly black. As for the ariels, unfortunatly i got a lot of pics of the inside but only a couple of the outside, so not sure on that. I am assuming you been the wire antenna's.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

  • Member since
    August 2010
  • From: Weiden, Germany
Posted by Beckyhead on Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:42 AM

The Lanc is 98% complete, there are some little things I need to finish. Those seem to be the toughest parts to get through!

I finished up the fuselage with some panel work, then attached the wings to the fuselage. Hasegawa did a great job with part of the kit, so the wings that I did apart from the rest of the aircraft was a success. After the weathering, Future time, then Vallejo Matt Varnish dilluted with distiled water for a a final finish.

Decals...OMG the decals were a nightmare. Lots of silvering in the letters. Next time, cut close to the letters,a dip in Future before after it's released in water, then application.

 


Landing gear. I couldn't find a decent on-line reference on the Mk. III dambusters to save my life, so I painted them semi-gloss black, with Alclad for the "oleo" portion. Wheels were painted Tamiya silver, and a wash of brown oil (burnt umber). Gear was drybrushed with silver.

My issues: I like the masking with Bare-Metal foil! Anytime I do a cockpit like this again (B-29s, etc.) I will use this method again. Removal was a little tricky for me, and the toothpick liked to go a little far a remove some paint from the frams. Anybody have a better technique? I cleaned the canopy with mineral spirits to remove a adhesive residue, the painted each panel with Future to bring out the shine. I did the same thing for the bubble canopy on the nose.

I got some overspray INSIDE the aircraft and it hazed the interior of the bombardeer's bubble. I hade to remove it with an X-Acto, clean it out with alchohol and mineral spirits, then re-attach. Turned out okay, but I no longer have the nice seal with the fuselage I hade before. Next time...MASK THE BLOODY WINDOWS!!

WEll, besides a few little bits I have left, what do you think? I'd like to build some antenna/ariels but I don't know where the attachment points are. I could use a little help there.

Mini review of the kit:

Bad: Cockpit detail was terrible, no engines, gear bay detail was minimal, gun mounts were sparse. This is a kit that screams for AM products, to include updating the flaps, if you wish. Instruction were poor. It would've been nice to know I had to drill holes for the "Upkeep" mount BEFORE assembly and painting. Paining instructions could have been better, and the decals were rather poor. In fact,m the RAF rounderals (sp.) were a little to big. Wheels were poor in details and the assembly of the gear was a little convoluted.

Good: Canopy parts were very nice, fuselage and wing details were good, and the fit of the tail plance, rudder and wings were great.

Overall the kit met my goals of practicing my build, sanding, filling and painting skills. Considering what I paid for the kit, the value was about right.

Thanks

MAJ Paul Woods, US Army

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