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John, looks like your on a bit of an RAF Gulf War kick, i like it. As for the C-130, that paint scheme does look like the standard scheme used on C-130's. I can't imagine the RAF painting these aircraft is any scpeial scheme as they are not front like the Jaguars were. At most i should think the C-130's would have dropped suppliers to the advancing troops. This isn't really my specialtst area, but it seems right to me.

Looks like the RAF were on a Viz kick in the Gulf. The Fat Slags and Buster Gonad were also in Viz, which was more like an Adult Comic and was rather funny.

I have the Pavla seats for my jag's, so will be intertested to see how they work out, i have a few Pavla bits but never used any yet.

And i like the idea of buying your mum a kit and then building it on her behalf. Crafty, but nice

Thank's guy's .

I was looking at the Model Alliance RAF Jaguar decal sheet and spotted a couple of other options for two more GR-1 Gulf War Jaguar's

I like the 'Fat Slags' nose art and the 'Buster Gonad' is quite interesting . I think I found the site where Bish got the 'Johnny Fartpants' nose art from that's on the actual aircraft .

http://www.dstorm.eu/pages/en/gb/jaguar.html

I think it's okay to post the 'Fat Slags' nose art but I'm sure the FSM Moderaters would not allow for Buster Gonad .

Anyway I'm thinking of buying a couple of Italeri GR-1 Jaguars as this kit appears to have the external fuel tank included and the Hasegawa kit doesn't .

A pic from the web site above seems to show 'Johnny Fartpants' with an external tank under the port wing

I'm not sure if it was fitted during flight operations in the Gulf War .

In any case I was browsing Hannants web site and saw the Flight Path detail set for the GR-1 Jaguar , which includes bombs and pods for a Gulf War Jaguar and I ordered some ; I also picked up 2 Palva Jaguar seats and two of the Italeri GR-1 Jaguar Desert Storm kits .

Something else that got my attention while browsing the net for info on the RAF aircraft in the Gulf War was this site ;

http://www.scalemates.com/products/product.php?id=175630

That decal sheet seems to show the same markings for a RAF C-130 Hercules that's in the 1/72 Italeri C-130E/H kit

Sometimes Italeri get the paint colours wrong on their instruction sheets and I was wondering if the paint colours are correct as Italeri list them

Can anyone confirm if the markings are correct in the Italeri C-130 kit for a RAF Gulf War Hercules .

I also ordered froma local hobby store the Airfix S2B Buccaneer kit as I would like to continue on building RAF Gulf War aircraft for the rest of 2013 . It's mum's birthday next thursday and apart from the obvious bottles of red wine and flowers , I'm sure she would like a kit as a "gift'' which would be finished in desert pink ...

John .

Helo, nice work on the Jaguar so far! I think built this model (or one a lot like it) before, though it was a long time ago and my skills weren't worthy of the model. I'm modeling vicariously through you!

John, nice work on that and some great tips to look out for.

Beckyhead, tahnks for that info. I found some pics and it looks a nice aircraft, looking forward to seeing your build.

Nope, but it did succeed the Skyray's and then some, but they did change the designation from F4D (which is why pilots called it the "Ford")to F6D when the Phantom II went into production and the US DoD ordered all the services to standardinze aircraft designations at the same time. This is why its an F-4 in Air Force and an F-4 in its sister-services. For example, the current Lightning II is the named successor of the famour P-38. If there was an actual predecessor, the F3H Demon would be the closest.

The Skyray was a delta-wing, single engine Navy/USMC fighter developed in the early 1950's and was based on delta-wing concepts developed by the Germans during WWII (the Komet). It's carrier based, but it had a primary role as an interceptor and had an excellent rate of climb. It was phased out of operations in 1964.

Another small update on my RAF Jaguar

Hasegawa don't mention anything about adding any nose weight but I decided to add some anyway

I glued and clamped the fuselage halves together and let dried overnight

One small issue is the fit of the lower engine cover

I cut the centre lugs flush as it caused the engine cover to sit a little high .

The wings were a nice snug fit

Next a little tamiya putty

For the desert pink colour I checked my Hasegawa RAF Desert Storm Tornado kit and it lists the colours of H-44 (Flesh) 95% + H-47 (Red Brown) 5% . The hobby shop was out of H-47 so I thought about using H-17 (Cocoa Brown) 5% instead .

I'll mix a small amount and try it on the insides of the engine intake pieces to see how it looks .

First thing in the morning I'll sand the putty and then add the tail fin and stabilizers .

John .

Permission granted, welcome aboard. I am not familiar with this aircraft. Just did a search and i see its called F4. I didn't realise the US used the same designation twice. Was this a predecessor to the Phantom.

Well, I asked my wife for a 1/48 scale Navy/USMC jet....her choice. She bought me a 1:48 Douglas Skyray from Tamiya. This is a very sweet kit, and boy was this a pleasant surprise on Christmas morning! The only I ordered for the kit was the Eduards detail kit. So, with your permission, I'd like to join this build.

Helo- that is looking good.

All- I'm starting to get envious of the airbrush paint as I begin to think of the large surface area of the B-29! Just have no experience with it. Showing my age here, but I am wondering if it was even available in an affordable context to modelers when I built the Constitution back in the late 80's. Did a deck wash and detail paint all by hand back then.

Update to this post...

As I sat last night watching an old WWII film, the tire color kept poking at me...scrapped the movie and decided I would go fix the tires on the 29. I first started with a flat black repaint. When I assemble the tire halves, I'm sure I'll have touch up to do. Then, I'll probably do a wash of custom grey/black tone.

...and just so I didn't feel like I spent time without forward results, I gave the bomb halves a dose of olive drab and silver for the fuses.

If that works, why tempt faite. As well as two of these kits i have one of the two seater which i think is done in the same way.

Now i come to think of it, i am sure i have a few Hase jet kits that go together like this.

Glad that worked out for you John! It's looking really nice. Keep up posted!

Thank's guy's ;

Well Ruddratt was right , the join between the cockpit front section and the main body worked out nicely with everything finishing flush on the surface .

Close-up ...

When I tapped both fuselage sections together for a dry test fit , the fuselage join along the top is quite good and there is only a small gap just behind the front wheel well that will require a little more tamiya putty than the rest of the join

Well Bish , I'm very happy with this approach to joining up the fuselage halves ; Next I'll glue the cockpit tub in place , then the fuselage halves .

John .

John, nice start. I will keep that tip in mind about joining the fuselage.

bad - lookin' real good! First time I've seen blue as a preshade color, but man, it works! That looks awesome!

Z - You're off to a fine start. I'm with Bish on the tire color - a bit too earthy, but heck, I build bipes, and their tires can be gray, tan, or even a pinkish hue, so I may not be the best guy to ask on the subject.

John - that's a lot of masking goin' on there, but it's lookin' great! I like the idea of completing each half separately, then joining them. My thoughts are it would be easier to fill a seam down the middle than sand away a step where the front and rear halves join.

A small udate on my RAF GR-1 Desert Storm Jaguar .

I was mixing some Gunze H-58 Interior Green for some French helicopter builds and decided to mask around the wheel wells and lower cockpit section on the Jaguar .

Once the green dried I masked for upper cockpit section and sprayed H-333 Extra Dark Sea Gray

Hasegawa's instructions suggest glueing the cockpit halves together (step 2) first and fitting it to a seperate main body section (step 4)

Mmmm , I'm wondering if it might be easier to glue each front cockpit piece to the main fuselage half  first

I think this way it might be a lot easier to get the join right and I'll fit the intakes after most of the fuselage is together .

Anyway some glueing next hopfully things will go well .

John .

A good start Z. I am never to sure with tyres. I have heard people say that straight black is not realistic. One book on modelling German fighters says to use grey. But all the photo's i see of tyres, they seem to be black. If its an aircraft operating from a grass strip, then i can understand it being brown with dirt.

That colour you have used deffinatly doesn't look right to me.

BL: Off to a good start!

Here are a few WIP images from the 29 build...

Not especially pleased with the Testor's "rubber" paint tone...has too much of a brown tone to it in my opinion. Probably will do a flat black or a black wash to bring it more into realism. Close up below:

Thoughts anyone?

bl: Looks interesting.

Looking good so far, and don't worry, theres plenty of time.

I have noticed a few people have problems posting with Flickr. I know PB can be a pain in the butt, but it does work.

Slow progress on my Gundam model, with the holidays and traveling for work and everything. I'm going with a blue and gray paint job, and here are the blue pieces.

Preshaded:

And painted:

Now I get to actually start assembling the thing!

By the way, Photobucket works much better than Flickr for posting pics.

Nice one John, have added that to the roster. Ye, thats the same Jaguar kit i have two of in the stash, so will be watching closely.

Thank's for the posting the pic of the actually nose art on the RAF GR-1 Jaguar Bish

The decal is quite small on the sheet and I needed to use the magnifyer to see it .

I raced off to the hobby store this morning with my gift certificate and picked up the Hasegawa GR-1 Jaguar

They had sold out of the Airfix S2B Buccaneer , oh well , I'm happy I got the Jaguar anyway and later today I'll make a start on 'Johnny Fartpants' .

John .

Mike-  Holy cow!  What an amazing job on the D VII cockpit!  You sure you didn't work for Fokker in a past life, my friend?   Keep up the great work, can't wait to see your next pics!

Ernie

Thats not bad going, thats about £23 for both those kit. Funny thing is i sometimes find it can be cheaper for me to order some kits from the US, including postage. But that can depend on the deals they are doing.

I would say i get about the same percentage of my stuff from Hannants. But luckly it only takes 2 or 3 days, but then i am only 45 mins drive from there main store. Its got a lot better since they changed there site a few years ago.

I couldn't recall where the name Johnny Fartpants came from, so just searched it. It was from a Mag called Viz which was very popular back in the 80's/90's. I found this as well.

Bish ;

I live in Sydney and have been ordering from Hannants for about 7 years now . I would say that about 75% of my kit purchases are from Hannants 20% from ebay and sadly only 5% locally . There can be quite a price difference with kits from overseas being so much cheaper , even allowing for postage , I still come out in front . Orders usually arrive within 10 to 14 days and allways nicely packed in sturdy cardboard boxes .

I'll aim to get both kits and I'll have to add about $10 as well , plus I must remember to buy some paint while I'm in the store  .

Here's a close up of the decal placement guide from the Model Alliance sheet

John .

So your going to get both, nice. Will you get both with that voucher, or will you have to add to it.

I have a few WW2 bits from Flightpath and they look really nice. I had been ordering direct until Hannants got them in. How do you find ordering from Hannants, i can't remember were in the world you are, but i am still surprised at guys from other parts of the world ordering from. I have been useing them for about 25 years and i do a lot of orders.

Johnny Fartpants, classic, thats sounds just like the RAF. I have a soft spot for the RAF's Jag as they were based at Coltishall, which was juts on the each of my home city, and i used to see them a lot when i was younger. Look forward to seeing yours.

Thank's for the help Bish 

The link you posted for the Airfix S2B Buccaneer was quite interesting . The kit looks okay to me except that the outer wings are molded seperatly and initially I was concerned about getting a good join between the inner and outer wings but I went and checked Hannants and saw some Airwaves PE Wing Fold for the Airfix Buccaneer and thought it would just as easy to do a wing fold than trying to get a nice join . Even though it's an RAF jet and the folded wings were probably not often in use parked on the ground , it should look okay anyway . Hannants had some Flightpath PE boarding ladder  as well , I already had a few things in the shopping cart but hadn't reached the (UK) 19 pounds min payment for overseas orders , so with a resin ALQ-119 ECM Pod for 1.29 pounds to suit the Jaguar GR-1 ,so I reached my total and placed an order ...

Modellingmadness had a nice review of the Hasegawa GR-1 Jaguar kit ;

http://modelingmadness.com/scott/mod/16jagpreview.htm

I like the boarding ladder that comes with the kit and I would guess that the canopy can be posed open .

So I'll pick up the Airfix Buccaneer and Hasegawa Jaguar kits first thing Saturday morning ;

I found the Model Alliance Gulf War Jaguar decal sheet in my stash

Lot's of options

Including an aircraft called "Johnny Fartpants" ..................Mmmmm   

John . (johnny)

Not sure which of the Jaguar kits are better, i do have two of the Hase kits and they look very nice, i think the Italeri one is much older. Just found a review on Britmodeller which says the hase is the best jag around, and the Italeri has a number of issue's. I would always go for Hase over Italeri, but thats just me.

Not sure about over there, but here the two are about the same price, so its a no brainer.

Found a review for the Bucc if you fancy a read.

www.cybermodeler.com/.../kit_airfix_4049.shtml

Seems to be an older kit with sparse detail inside.

Thank's Bish ;

I was having a look on Hobbyco's web site just to see what kits they have in stock and a 1/72 Airfix S2B Buccaneer caught my eye as did a Italeri GR-1 Jaguar . Both kits look to have desert storm markings , although I'm sure I have some 1/72 Model Alliance Jaguar Desert Storm decals somewhere in the stash .

There's also the Hasegawa GR-1 Jaguar kit available , I wonder which Jaguar kit is better between the two ? . Anyway , not exactly a helicopter kit as first planned but I'm leaning towards something British from the Gulf War (1991) .

John .

Sure is John, glad to have you on board.