jimbot58

Hi Guys.

Seems hard to find the time to get in here and contribute, with so much to do and little time to do it in. Extra time at work getting ready for this software conversion has been a bear. As the only person who has any skill with the computer, it's meant quite a bit of work getting reports cleaned up, changing warehouse locations, etc.  Purchasing decided it would be a good idea to load up the shelves in preparation for this day, something one of the people in charge of this admitted to me that maybe this wasn't the best idea. Still a Saturday to go, cutting into what should have been a 3 day weekend. There was also the funeral to go to last weekend, additional work in the yard, getting the cooler going for the season, on top of the usual daily grind of keeping up domestic duties around the house.

I did find a few moments here and there to do a few things at the hobby desk, mostly adding on some of those small parts to both the Tiger and the Growler. I also worked on the frame work of the Growlers canopy, and have run into one problem. I am finding that when you coat the glass with Future, the finish is so smooth, there is little for the enamel MM paints to adhere to. I wanted to see what happens if I were to try some of the MM acryl paint to see how well they might stick to each other, but haven't made it to the hobby shop due to reasons I mentioned before.

I happened to notice that there is a PE kit available for the Tiger and briefly considered it, but then decided against it for a couple of reasons: One is the expense. The cost of the set would more than double the overall cost of the kit. Second is the fact that I started the Tiger as a fun little side build to do as I work on the Growler, and PE sets don't fit into that idea.

Ken, that has been quite a journey with those exhausts and that is going to be one heck of a good looking Phantom when you are done!

Hi Jim,

I am very happy to hear from you, but sad to hear that you are working so hard.  I know the feeling.  I am working on a project at work that they wanted done last week.  So that just raises the stress level, as I am sure you understand far too well.

That is a good idea about trying the acrylic paint on the Future finish.  Sounds like it should work.

And as far as that Tiger and PE goes, I agree with you on your decision to not purchase the PE.  We both know how much work PE is and if the Tiger is just for fun, stay away from the PE and the resin!

I hope you survive working today, that is a real bummer cutting into a holiday weekend like that.  We will be thinking about you.  At least you will have two more days left when you get off work tonight.

Thanks for the compliments on my exhaust!  I really appreciate it Jim!

Ken

jimbot58

P.S. I want to start the wheel bays soon, so I better look at my gloss white before I do so I don't end up with a dried up bottle of rubberized paint like you Ken. That happens way too often!

Yep, it caught me off guard!   

Ken

troublemaker66

Hey Guys! Everyones builds look great. I haven`t had much bench time lately but did manage to finish the A1-H Skyraider and have a few fiddlies to put on the Skymaster and that`ll be done.

I stopped at a vintage toy store that I came across during work , which had a decent amount of aircraft and armor kits that they bought from a guy that had a massive stash. The owner said that the guy`s wife passed away and he lost all motivation for modeling. The owner said it took two trips in a U-Haul to get it all...around 5-7k kits!! There`s probably 90 kits left in the store. Anyway.....

I picked up 2 Tamiya armor kits, an M48A3 Patton and a Marder III M...both for $30. I started working on the Patton and would like to add it to this GB , if that`s ok?

I have only built 2 armor kits my entire life...a Tamiya T-34 and Bradely Fighting Vehicle, both many years ago. Definately a change of pace from A/C and will be open to any advice, tips,etc.

I have all the road wheels and return rollers together and been building some of the sub-assemblies. Assembly will not be a problem but painting and finishing will be....it will be a learning experience to say the least...lol.

Len

Hi Len,

It is good to hear from you!  Of course you can add the Patton, no problem.  I will update page one now.

By the way, how is your house coming along?

Ken

Son Of Medicine Man

troublemaker66

Hey Guys! Everyones builds look great. I haven`t had much bench time lately but did manage to finish the A1-H Skyraider and have a few fiddlies to put on the Skymaster and that`ll be done.

I stopped at a vintage toy store that I came across during work , which had a decent amount of aircraft and armor kits that they bought from a guy that had a massive stash. The owner said that the guy`s wife passed away and he lost all motivation for modeling. The owner said it took two trips in a U-Haul to get it all...around 5-7k kits!! There`s probably 90 kits left in the store. Anyway.....

I picked up 2 Tamiya armor kits, an M48A3 Patton and a Marder III M...both for $30. I started working on the Patton and would like to add it to this GB , if that`s ok?

I have only built 2 armor kits my entire life...a Tamiya T-34 and Bradely Fighting Vehicle, both many years ago. Definately a change of pace from A/C and will be open to any advice, tips,etc.

I have all the road wheels and return rollers together and been building some of the sub-assemblies. Assembly will not be a problem but painting and finishing will be....it will be a learning experience to say the least...lol.

Len

Hi Len,

It is good to hear from you!  Of course you can add the Patton, no problem.  I will update page one now.

By the way, how is your house coming along?

Ken

Hi Len,

I also forgot to ask, what scale is that Patton?

Ken

Son Of Medicine Man

jimbot58

Hi Guys.

Seems hard to find the time to get in here and contribute, with so much to do and little time to do it in. Extra time at work getting ready for this software conversion has been a bear. As the only person who has any skill with the computer, it's meant quite a bit of work getting reports cleaned up, changing warehouse locations, etc.  Purchasing decided it would be a good idea to load up the shelves in preparation for this day, something one of the people in charge of this admitted to me that maybe this wasn't the best idea. Still a Saturday to go, cutting into what should have been a 3 day weekend. There was also the funeral to go to last weekend, additional work in the yard, getting the cooler going for the season, on top of the usual daily grind of keeping up domestic duties around the house.

I did find a few moments here and there to do a few things at the hobby desk, mostly adding on some of those small parts to both the Tiger and the Growler. I also worked on the frame work of the Growlers canopy, and have run into one problem. I am finding that when you coat the glass with Future, the finish is so smooth, there is little for the enamel MM paints to adhere to. I wanted to see what happens if I were to try some of the MM acryl paint to see how well they might stick to each other, but haven't made it to the hobby shop due to reasons I mentioned before.

I happened to notice that there is a PE kit available for the Tiger and briefly considered it, but then decided against it for a couple of reasons: One is the expense. The cost of the set would more than double the overall cost of the kit. Second is the fact that I started the Tiger as a fun little side build to do as I work on the Growler, and PE sets don't fit into that idea.

Ken, that has been quite a journey with those exhausts and that is going to be one heck of a good looking Phantom when you are done!

Hi Jim,

I am very happy to hear from you, but sad to hear that you are working so hard.  I know the feeling.  I am working on a project at work that they wanted done last week.  So that just raises the stress level, as I am sure you understand far too well.

That is a good idea about trying the acrylic paint on the Future finish.  Sounds like it should work.

And as far as that Tiger and PE goes, I agree with you on your decision to not purchase the PE.  We both know how much work PE is and if the Tiger is just for fun, stay away from the PE and the resin!

I hope you survive working today, that is a real bummer cutting into a holiday weekend like that.  We will be thinking about you.  At least you will have two more days left when you get off work tonight.

Thanks for the compliments on my exhaust!  I really appreciate it Jim!

Ken

I third that opinion.

Seems to be our lot in life. If there is any cold comfort,

it is that the alternative is worse, but too bad work cuts into

your long weekend. Ken uses the 'stress' word a lot, and that is

the price of big responsibilities.

As for kits, Jim I think you've done the right thing, PE is

a big commitment of time and patience, just not suitable

for a fun build...

Anyhow, I hope you guys enjoy the rest of the Memorial Day weekend.

Sobering and humbling to remember.

Dom

Son Of Medicine Man

Son Of Medicine Man

troublemaker66

Hey Guys! Everyones builds look great. I haven`t had much bench time lately but did manage to finish the A1-H Skyraider and have a few fiddlies to put on the Skymaster and that`ll be done.

I stopped at a vintage toy store that I came across during work , which had a decent amount of aircraft and armor kits that they bought from a guy that had a massive stash. The owner said that the guy`s wife passed away and he lost all motivation for modeling. The owner said it took two trips in a U-Haul to get it all...around 5-7k kits!! There`s probably 90 kits left in the store. Anyway.....

I picked up 2 Tamiya armor kits, an M48A3 Patton and a Marder III M...both for $30. I started working on the Patton and would like to add it to this GB , if that`s ok?

I have only built 2 armor kits my entire life...a Tamiya T-34 and Bradely Fighting Vehicle, both many years ago. Definately a change of pace from A/C and will be open to any advice, tips,etc.

I have all the road wheels and return rollers together and been building some of the sub-assemblies. Assembly will not be a problem but painting and finishing will be....it will be a learning experience to say the least...lol.

Len

Hi Len,

It is good to hear from you!  Of course you can add the Patton, no problem.  I will update page one now.

By the way, how is your house coming along?

Ken

Hi Len,

I also forgot to ask, what scale is that Patton?

Ken

troublemaker66

The Patton is 1/35 and still waiting for money with the house.

Oh my gosh Len, I can't believe that is still going on!  I thought that the government had released the money and you were good to go?  And you were looking at some modular homes?

Ken

Yikes! After setting off for work at 7 am this morning, I finally hit my front door just before 7 pm! Oh well, thank goodness I am still hourly and not salaried! (No offense to any of you who are!.) Should be a nice paycheck next week, that I will simply turn over to the landlord!

Happy Memorial Day guys, and thanks to all the vets!!

Len: Congrads on the M48 and the Marder. Gee, it's been what - six months since Hurricane Sandy- and they STILL haven't sent your check out- gee-friggin'- whiz....

jimbot58

Yikes! After setting off for work at 7 am this morning, I finally hit my front door just before 7 pm! Oh well, thank goodness I am still hourly and not salaried! (No offense to any of you who are!.) Should be a nice paycheck next week, that I will simply turn over to the landlord!

Hi Jim!

Glad you are home now!  Enjoy yourself and relax!

Ken

Hi Everyone!

I finally got done painting the white on the front wheel bay!  I forgot that white is hard to cover.  It took three coats!  And with enamel, you have to wait for it to set up between coats, which means you have to clean the airbrush every coat!

But one thing about it, it reminded me about my time with my Dad.  When we first started out painting cars, we used straight enamel.  Very same process.  He taught me well.  You should have seen the gloss on those cars we painted!   

Speaking of gloss, check this gloss out:

My Dad would be very proud of this paint job!  Here is to you Dad!   

Ken

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone!

I finally got done painting the white on the front wheel bay!  I forgot that white is hard to cover.  It took three coats!  And with enamel, you have to wait for it to set up between coats, which means you have to clean the airbrush every coat!

But one thing about it, it reminded me about my time with my Dad.  When we first started out painting cars, we used straight enamel.  Very same process.  He taught me well.  You should have seen the gloss on those cars we painted!   

Speaking of gloss, check this gloss out:

 

My Dad would be very proud of this paint job!  Here is to you Dad!   

Ken

Ken:

Your dad is smiling right now!!

-Dom

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone!

I finally got done painting the white on the front wheel bay!  I forgot that white is hard to cover.  It took three coats!  And with enamel, you have to wait for it to set up between coats, which means you have to clean the airbrush every coat!

But one thing about it, it reminded me about my time with my Dad.  When we first started out painting cars, we used straight enamel.  Very same process.  He taught me well.  You should have seen the gloss on those cars we painted!   

Speaking of gloss, check this gloss out:

 

My Dad would be very proud of this paint job!  Here is to you Dad!   

Ken

Very nice, Ken!   Here's a toast to you and your dad! . BTW, what happened to those cars? Do you still have them, or pictures?

Russ

Son Of Medicine Man

troublemaker66

Hey Guys! Everyones builds look great. I haven`t had much bench time lately but did manage to finish the A1-H Skyraider and have a few fiddlies to put on the Skymaster and that`ll be done.

I stopped at a vintage toy store that I came across during work , which had a decent amount of aircraft and armor kits that they bought from a guy that had a massive stash. The owner said that the guy`s wife passed away and he lost all motivation for modeling. The owner said it took two trips in a U-Haul to get it all...around 5-7k kits!! There`s probably 90 kits left in the store. Anyway.....

I picked up 2 Tamiya armor kits, an M48A3 Patton and a Marder III M...both for $30. I started working on the Patton and would like to add it to this GB , if that`s ok?

I have only built 2 armor kits my entire life...a Tamiya T-34 and Bradely Fighting Vehicle, both many years ago. Definately a change of pace from A/C and will be open to any advice, tips,etc.

I have all the road wheels and return rollers together and been building some of the sub-assemblies. Assembly will not be a problem but painting and finishing will be....it will be a learning experience to say the least...lol.

Len

Hi Len,

It is good to hear from you!  Of course you can add the Patton, no problem.  I will update page one now.

By the way, how is your house coming along?

Ken

Ken, I have the same experience with gloss white. I doesn't cover well, and if I spray too quickly, it tends to pool into corners and not cover open areas. I usually spray on several light "tack" coats, waiting 10 minutes or so between coats until I can go heavier. The bad thing is that if I wait too long, the paint starts to settle in the airbrush cup and dry on the tip of the nozzle. I've never tried to tackle any thing as large as a car body, so I don't know what would work best there.

And speaking of Gloss White, I checked my bottle and found it to be very thick and gooey-well on it way to becoming rubber. I always think that I should check paint conditions ahead of time, but I never do.

I finally managed to make it to the hobby shop and not only replace my white enamel, I also picked up a couple of bottles of Acryl paint to try on the canopy. I started on the inside framework: (plus my paint acquisitions shown here.)

It's a pain to mask this as one of the other drawbacks to using Future is that my Parafilm does not stick to inside curves at all. I can usually coax it to work on the outside curves better. An advantage is that Parafilm tends to harden over time and it is much easier to remove it from the canopy after painting, if the canopy was coated with the future.

Don't know if you can see this or not: ( I still need to do the front and back framework) You can at least see the center member. The rest of the black you see is showing through from the other side.

Also adding some some masking to the cockpit edges-the addition of the PE parts left some "stepped" areas that would allow paint to enter into the edges from the outside.

I also assembled, painted and glossed these under wing bits. Not only do they get decals, but PE parts were provided for them as well.

And finally, I also added a few more of the fiddly bits: I found these to be called "wingtip aerodynamic fins". I thought they were antennae of some type, but the diagram I found has them labeled as "fins". I suppose having that pod hanging out there could be unstable?

Ken: Good lookin' work! I've used light grey as primer before on white areas, it seems to cover better and you can leave a little grey in the corners and cracks as pre-shading. Also helps since I've never been able to get a wash on white that didn't look way over done to me.

Jim: Looks good too! You're a better man than me if you can effectively mask a 1/72nd canopy like that. Did a 1/72nd B-24 a few years ago and it gave me a bunch of grey hairs!

Striker8241

 

 

Very nice, Ken!   Here's a toast to you and your dad! . BTW, what happened to those cars? Do you still have them, or pictures?

 

Russ

Thank you Russ!

As far as the cars my Dad and I painted, that was many years ago.  I only have a few pictures scanned of the many, many, many cars and trucks we painted over the years.  Here are a few of them:

The picture of the motorcycle was taken many years after the paint job was done, that is why you can see the chips in the paint.  The boat trailer was the last paint job we did together.

As I said, there were many, many more paint jobs.  I do hope now that I am thinking about it that I do have and can find pictures of them.  Almost all of them were custom jobs.  The Mustang and the Harley were metal flake, which were very labor intensive.  We did a "flip-flop" paint job that was real pretty.  I also remember a '69 Mustang fast back that looked real nice, but then again they all looked real nice.

People from around this area all knew our paint jobs.

Ken 

jimbot58

Ken, I have the same experience with gloss white. I doesn't cover well, and if I spray too quickly, it tends to pool into corners and not cover open areas. I usually spray on several light "tack" coats, waiting 10 minutes or so between coats until I can go heavier. The bad thing is that if I wait too long, the paint starts to settle in the airbrush cup and dry on the tip of the nozzle. I've never tried to tackle any thing as large as a car body, so I don't know what would work best there.

And speaking of Gloss White, I checked my bottle and found it to be very thick and gooey-well on it way to becoming rubber. I always think that I should check paint conditions ahead of time, but I never do.

I finally managed to make it to the hobby shop and not only replace my white enamel, I also picked up a couple of bottles of Acryl paint to try on the canopy. I started on the inside framework: (plus my paint acquisitions shown here.)

It's a pain to mask this as one of the other drawbacks to using Future is that my Parafilm does not stick to inside curves at all. I can usually coax it to work on the outside curves better. An advantage is that Parafilm tends to harden over time and it is much easier to remove it from the canopy after painting, if the canopy was coated with the future.

Don't know if you can see this or not: ( I still need to do the front and back framework) You can at least see the center member. The rest of the black you see is showing through from the other side.

Also adding some some masking to the cockpit edges-the addition of the PE parts left some "stepped" areas that would allow paint to enter into the edges from the outside.

I also assembled, painted and glossed these under wing bits. Not only do they get decals, but PE parts were provided for them as well.

And finally, I also added a few more of the fiddly bits: I found these to be called "wingtip aerodynamic fins". I thought they were antennae of some type, but the diagram I found has them labeled as "fins". I suppose having that pod hanging out there could be unstable?

Hi Jim,

I totally agree with you on the white paint issues.  It is a pain!

Thank you for the tips you are using on your canopy!  As Cliff said, you are a very patient person indeed to do that at 1/72 scale!  And you always end up with such a great job!  It is looking great once again!     

Ken

Wow Ken, you and you dad did some fantastic paint jobs there! Love the metal flake on the Pony car and the bike! I was watching one of those TV shows where they build custom cars a little while back where they showed how much work went into the metal flake, wow!

Fantastic to have real artists like you and Dom here!

Son Of Medicine Man

 

Thank you Russ!

As far as the cars my Dad and I painted, that was many years ago.  I only have a few pictures scanned of the many, many, many cars and trucks we painted over the years.  Here are a few of them:

~

 People from around this area all knew our paint jobs.

Ken 

Fantastic work, Ken! I can believe it! 

Russ

Gamera

Wow Ken, you and you dad did some fantastic paint jobs there! Love the metal flake on the Pony car and the bike! I was watching one of those TV shows where they build custom cars a little while back where they showed how much work went into the metal flake, wow!

Fantastic to have real artists like you and Dom here!

Thank you Cliff!  I just got done with having a small cookout and had my Mom over.  I was trying to remember all of the cars my Dad and I painted.  I know we didn't take pictures of all of them.  I sure wish we had.  It would make a great photo album!

Ken

Striker8241

 

Fantastic work, Ken! I can believe it! 

Russ

Thank you Russ!  I learned a great deal from my Dad.  He was a true artist!

Ken

Hi Everyone,

Today, being Memorial Day, I would like to take a moment to remember those who are no longer here with us that have served our country so that we may enjoy the freedoms that we have today.

I would especially like to remember Berny, who this group build is dedicated to, and my Dad, who both served time in Vietnam.

If anyone else would like to mention someone that they knew and the service that they served, it would be most welcome!

Ken

I couldn't agree more Ken, my hat's off to all the vets!

I think I've said before one of my late uncles served with the US Navy during the Second World War. My dad served in peace time between Korea and Vietnam.

Have fun with the cook out Ken, I'm working today but I do get Wed off for doing so.

If I may, could I still get in? I have something "off the wall" to contribute. I found an old MPC Star Wars Darth Vader Tie Fighter, with the cockpit barely started.

I would love to finish this and this is a good reason.

Let me know.

Taps88

If I may, could I still get in? I have something "off the wall" to contribute. I found an old MPC Star Wars Darth Vader Tie Fighter, with the cockpit barely started.

I would love to finish this and this is a good reason.

Let me know.

Hi Eric,

You most certainly can join us!  Just let me know what scale that kit is and I will update page one with your info.  Welcome aboard!   

Ken

Gamera

I couldn't agree more Ken, my hat's off to all the vets!

I think I've said before one of my late uncles served with the US Navy during the Second World War. My dad served in peace time between Korea and Vietnam.

Have fun with the cook out Ken, I'm working today but I do get Wed off for doing so.

Hi Cliff,

I don't remember you mentioning that before, but my memory is not all that good.  I salute your uncles and your dad!

Sorry to hear you are working today, I hope it goes by quickly for you.

Ken

My shout goes out to my Pop, who served in the last great war, from '41-'45. His tour included North Africa,Sicily, Sardinia, Italy, France and finally into Germany itself. Ironically, he was the son of ethnic Germans, who had settled into the Volga River region of Eastern Russia at the invitation of Catherine The Great during the 1800's.My Grandfather and his family fled Russian oppression in the early part of the 20th century to settle in the US. My Dad was born in the States but several of his older brothers and sisters had been born in Russia, Even though ethnically German, my Dad was called up to serve in the European theater. I don't think he served on the front lines, but as a driver and operator of an AA unit, he was instrumental in bringing down a few Nazi fighters.

I salute him and all those who served, and esp those who gave their lives.

Here he is, 19 years old and fresh out of boot camp.

jimbot58

My shout goes out to my Pop, who served in the last great war, from '41-'45. His tour included North Africa,Sicily, Sardinia, Italy, France and finally into Germany itself. Ironically, he was the son of ethnic Germans, who had settled into the Volga River region of Eastern Russia at the invitation of Catherine The Great during the 1800's.My Grandfather and his family fled Russian oppression in the early part of the 20th century to settle in the US. My Dad was born in the States but several of his older brothers and sisters had been born in Russia, Even though ethnically German, my Dad was called up to serve in the European theater. I don't think he served on the front lines, but as a driver and operator of an AA unit, he was instrumental in bringing down a few Nazi fighters.

I salute him and all those who served, and esp those who gave their lives.

Here he is, 19 years old and fresh out of boot camp.

Wow Jim, that is really very interesting!  Cool picture too!  I salute your dad as well!  Thank you for sharing that!

Ken

Son Of Medicine Man

Gamera

I couldn't agree more Ken, my hat's off to all the vets!

I think I've said before one of my late uncles served with the US Navy during the Second World War. My dad served in peace time between Korea and Vietnam.

Have fun with the cook out Ken, I'm working today but I do get Wed off for doing so.

Hi Cliff,

I don't remember you mentioning that before, but my memory is not all that good.  I salute your uncles and your dad!

Sorry to hear you are working today, I hope it goes by quickly for you.

Ken

So Cliff, if you don't mind, do you know any more about your uncle's service in the Navy during WWII?

Ken