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US CARRIER AVIATION GROUP BUILD 2013

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Thursday, May 2, 2013 6:06 AM

TarnShip

that is a really interesting release of the A-1E,,,,,I didn't know they had a newer set out, mine has the VA-122, Blue VA-65, and USAF decal sheet

 
I have a couple of those revell boxings with VA-122 , VA-65 and the USAF . The one I chose for this GB I got off ebay last year . The seller was in Germany and I wondered if this particular version was for the domestic market ? , as I haven't seen another box type since .
Here's a scan of the decal sheet and paint diagram ,
 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, May 2, 2013 6:01 AM

I'm looking forward to seeing your progress, Rex!

I love the look od the F-3. Do you know of a kit of this plane in 1/48?

Clemens

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Posted by TarnShip on Thursday, May 2, 2013 12:00 AM

that is a really interesting release of the A-1E,,,,,I didn't know they had a newer set out, mine has the VA-122, Blue VA-65, and USAF decal sheet

yes, I am thinking all three (or more) bipes on the bench at once,,,,,,,I usually build 3 or 4 jets at a time,,,,,,3 bipes will take up less space than 3 Tomcats, for sure

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:14 PM

Rex, are you building all of that???

I'll just put all of those biplanes on the list. Just tell me if I misunderstood (again lol)

Looks like it might get really interesting now...

I'll put you on hte list, John.

Welcome to this GB!

Clemens

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Posted by TarnShip on Wednesday, May 1, 2013 5:42 PM

I am thinking that I should go ahead and list three biplanes,,,,,,each of a different media

the F6C on CV-1 Langley is a Pro Resin kit, with a Starfighter P-6E photoetched rigging set

the F3F is a RarePlanes Vacuform, with stretched sprue rigging (maybe on the Wasp)

a Heller SBC-3 or 4 with Starfighter rigging and resin engine (on Enterprise)

that would be a Resin plane, a Vac, and an old Plastic,,,,,,and let me use up some of this Starfighter decal collection I have,,,,,,,,and show a good contrast of the different methods of assembly for each medium (there was an old company that produced White Metal biplanes,,,,but, I don't have one)

then, after he gets it all ready,,,,,,,a Starfighter BF2C re-release of the Monogram kit, with resin, PE, and decals,,,,,,,that actually can be entered as OOB Biplane at a show

I have been on a stint building jets, mostly Skyhawks, time to pay attention to some of the other things on the shelves

Rex

ps: catapult photos exist of certain automobiles being launched, and at least one good shot in a Squadron booklet of a TBM all shot full of holes and stripped down, waiting for the launch,,,,that would make a heck of a dio, lol

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, May 1, 2013 3:28 PM

Why not? That catapults seem to be useful for many kinds of stuff!

Clemens

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Posted by DiscoStu on Wednesday, May 1, 2013 3:26 PM

My Dad and I were talking the other day about the raid to get OBL.  As I understand it he was burried at sea off the deck of a carrier.  We wondered out loud if the Navy boys made use of their catapults for that occasion.  It was cause for a few laughs thinking of a casket being hurled off the deck.

"Ahh the Luftwaffe. The Washington Generals of the History Channel" -Homer Simpson

  

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, May 1, 2013 3:22 PM

Ok, seems like i got that wrong, Rex. Stick out tongue

But thank you for all the nice examples of wierd stuff thrown up in the air from a ship's deck.

Btw: Have you alredy decided on a plane you want to build? That Hawk would be an interesting model...

Clemens

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Posted by TarnShip on Wednesday, May 1, 2013 2:50 PM

no sir, I was just pointing out how weird it could actually get on you

"normal" US carrier designed aircraft already include enough "weirdo" things for us to build, along with a lot of "normal" aircraft

I am perfectly happy with the range from biplanes to props to turboprops and jets

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, May 1, 2013 2:17 PM

Rex, if i got that right, you would like me to open this build for some unconventional stuff?

I don't know.. I want it to be for planes that can land on the carrier again after their job is done.

If more people ask me about it, I'll do it.

Clemens

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Posted by DiscoStu on Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:00 AM

I'd figure if a Mitchell can roll off a heaving carrier deck into the air then a Jug would be able to do it with little trouble.

"Ahh the Luftwaffe. The Washington Generals of the History Channel" -Homer Simpson

  

 

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Posted by TarnShip on Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:47 AM

World War II aircraft past a certain year were almost all capable of being delivered by catapult shot off of the CVEs

they did it because it saved so much time over craning the birds over the side at a port,,,,,,,,and because it was possible to arm them up, arrive off shore at some island, and launch and strike,,,,,,,,then land at their new home

Haha, if you opened this up to "ringers", there are Piper Cubs on LST's (two methods), C-130 test on Forrestal, UH-1 on converted LCM, SH-2 on a Catamaran, TH-57 on converted LCU,,,,etc, even including seaplanes catapulted off of converted Destroyers and recovered by crane for the next launch

but, if a person wants odd, there are plenty of "odd ones" that were designed for  Carriers without going to a Sparrowhawk on a Dirigible (Akron and Macon were also aircraft carriers)

to see the odd stuff, and some normal ships,,,,,,,go to the World Aircraft Carrier List on HazeGray and Underway site (haze is not loading right now, or I would just link it)

Rex

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, May 1, 2013 8:57 AM

Did you guys know, that  the P-47 Thunderbolt was able to start from a carrier?

Have a look at it at 34:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKlZOIUBSSw

And around 39:00 you can see the first napalm-bombs used by the americans...

And don't worry guys, I wont take stuff like this into the GB. The Thunderbolt is no carrier-based design at all. I just wanted to show you some of the strangest stuff I've seen about the Jug.

Clemens

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Posted by DiscoStu on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 6:54 PM

Great!  Yup a quick search of VF-17 shows it started on Bunker Hill before moving to the Solomon's.  quick research always trumps foggy recollections.  Plus VF-17 carried the Jolly Rogers markings.  A personal favorite of mine.

"Ahh the Luftwaffe. The Washington Generals of the History Channel" -Homer Simpson

  

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 5:08 PM

I DONT NEED AM DECALS! YAY!!!

I just found the instructions of this kit on the interwebnet. The machine depicted on the box-art was stationed aboard the USS Bunker Hill! So everything is fine with that nice 3-tone scheme!

Cheers, Clemens

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 5:00 PM

I will have a look at some aftermarket decals, Stu. This thing HAS to be a carrier based machine! I have to order another Quickboost engine for it as well, so i can get me some decals along with it. You can help me if you want, i would prefer a 3-tone color scheme like on hte box art. (sadly there aren't that many decal sheets for the birdcage corsair)

Clemens

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Posted by DiscoStu on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 4:51 PM

One quick note.  I think the markings that come with that particular Tamiya boxing are all land-based Corsairs......I think.  I know that VF-17 was based in the Solomons and I can't remember what the other markings in the kit were for.  Though to be fair  he Corsair was a US Navy plane that did take off from carriers.  If I remember my history correctly (And I do drink a lot) It took the Navy a while to warm up to the Corsairs on their ships.  Something about the long nose making it difficult for pilots to see the deck on approach.  They had to come up with a funky approach where they turned onto the deck at the last second.

"Ahh the Luftwaffe. The Washington Generals of the History Channel" -Homer Simpson

  

 

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Posted by DiscoStu on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 4:39 PM

The beauty of those Tamiya kits is they're pretty easy to build.  You'll love the Corsair and Mustang.  I keep several in the stash, just for those theraputic builds after completing something hair-raising.

"Ahh the Luftwaffe. The Washington Generals of the History Channel" -Homer Simpson

  

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 4:21 PM

Thank you very much, Eagle!

I can't wait to start my Wildcat. I just had a look in the box and boy, what a nice kit that is. Not that many parts and still awesome details. I thought that its just their expensive kits that are so good. That was  the reason i picked the Corsair and a P-51B Mustang up at Hannants today! I love Tamiya!

And Nope, 1/48, just like the Wildcat.

Cheers, Clemens

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Posted by Eagle90 on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 4:00 PM

Clemens, I really like the badges!  Great bit of variety and the pics are awesome!  You are doing a great job on your first GB!  Thanks for doing it!

Eagle90

 

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Posted by Eagle90 on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 3:57 PM

SchattenSpartan

I just ordered a nice little kit at Hannants for this group build:

What do you think?

Cheers, Clemens

Hey Clemens.....that better be 1/72!  Wink  Bish will get you!

 

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Posted by Eagle90 on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 3:56 PM

Bish

shiv, Eagle, Clemens, you guys can stop blaming me. I wasn't anywhere near it at the time, where ever it was, and i had nothing to do with it, what it is.

Clemens, i do like the badges as they are.

Eagle, shiv, so whne can we expect GB's from you guys Wink You don't get away that lightly.

Bish, I think you are here by dubbed, the godfather of GB's!  To the Dom! Toast

As for doing a GB......sure.....1/32 OR LARGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Anything!  As long as I don't need the magnifiers to do detail work! Wink

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:14 PM

If you do one for transport planes, I'll host another one with radial engines beeing the theme. As most transport planes have radials (unless they have jet engines) they should fit together nicely.

Cheers, Clemens

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:10 PM

Yes, i do think it's a nice looking plane. How did you know? Wink

No problem, Shiv. I'll update that right now.

Does anyone of you know where I can get the Cyberhobby Hellcat in 1/48 scale? I want one with folded wings and this kit is really nice, as far as i heard....

Clemens

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:00 PM

Sorry shiv, theres been that much going on lately, i am loseing track a bit. I forgot it was you who brought up the transport. If you time that right, i think you will get a lot of interest.

Clemes, so you think its a nice looking plane then.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by shivinigh on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 1:56 PM

Don't worry Bish I accidently erased all the video evidence. 

I muffed up. My entry is the Vought F7U-3M Cutlass. Not the skyray, still 1/72 Fujimi kit

If I can get a time worked out I will try and do a GB for transport aircraft. I would like to work it out with another GB so folks can do crossovers. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 1:50 PM

Same as me, Bish

Only things I know bout the Corsair:

  • It looks awesome
  • It uses the same engine as the Hellcat and Thunderbolt
  • It looks awesome!
  • It is carrier-based
  • It looks awesome!!
  • It is on the first GB badge
  • Have i mentioned it looks awesome already?

Clemens

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 1:45 PM

1) I'm not blaming you at all, Bish. For nothing.

2) If ya like the badges, I'll throw those ugly links out of my post.

3) DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! Really guys, open some GBs somwhere in the future

Cheers, Clemens

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 1:43 PM

Clemens, i know nothing about these type of aircraft, but the Corsair does looks a sweet plane.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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