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OFFICAL NATURAL METAL FINISH GB V (2013-2014)

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, June 15, 2013 1:48 PM

I just got myself some  Alclad Stainless Steel at my LHS today. I'll use it for all the radial engines I have to paint in the future. I planned on using Gunze Metalizer (the stuff you have to polish) for the engines, but they only had the darkest metalizer (way too dark) in stock, so I just got me some alclad instead...

And I can tell you one thing: It will produce a horrible NMF. It is really dark and doesnt look like aluminium at all. It is great for engines though...

I hope I could help.

Cheers, Clemens

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Posted by 68GT on Friday, June 14, 2013 6:13 PM

Greentracker, I just came across this build and he shows what colors he used where on the wing.  Stainless wasn't used but at least it gives you some ideas.

http://doogsmodels.com/2011/01/01/tamiya-p-47d-build-report-3-painting/

On Ed's bench, ???

  

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Posted by 68GT on Friday, June 14, 2013 5:53 PM

Thanks, I wasn't sure how the MM Chrome Silver was going to work out but I think I'm starting to like it.

On Ed's bench, ???

  

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Posted by greentracker98 on Friday, June 14, 2013 5:46 PM

Okay, here are a few pics of the"Pit" I don't have anymore taken right now. The camera died last night so I had to put the batteries in the charger.

Anyway, here they are.

 

A.K.A. Ken                Making Modeling Great Again

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, June 14, 2013 6:02 AM

Ed: Looking nice! (I love the look of Republic planes!) Nice finish as well!

Cheers, Clemens

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, June 14, 2013 6:00 AM

Ken: That's a nice finish on the Lightning!

I hope I can answer your questions: I never used Stainless Steel, but I think Aluminium or Airframe Aluminium would be a better color, just because the actual plane was made out of aluminium... I would polish the model after you sprayed it with a gloss black color to even out minor surface imperfections that might appear (just use a soft piece of cloth) and if you want your model to be extremely shiny, you can polish the actual Alclad color a bit as far as I know...

Just have a look at this. Thanks to Cliff (Gamera) for showing me that blog!

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Posted by 68GT on Friday, June 14, 2013 5:29 AM

Just a little update photo of the 105.  The kit decals are actually went down nice and I have since given it another clear coat.  I'm letting it dry for a few days before I continue one.

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Posted by greentracker98 on Friday, June 14, 2013 1:41 AM

Taps88

This is a dumb question and I know it's certainly been asked before, but I can't help my stupidity.

Has anyone tried Krylon paints? I had to run to the store and get more primer (I use Kylons spray can grey primer on most of my builds) I was looking at their line of Metallics, Aluminums and so forth.

Any luck with this? I have some, from other projects, that I may test.

Taps - There no such thing as a dumb question. Hows this look to you?

This P 38 was painted.......................

........................................ With these.

A.K.A. Ken                Making Modeling Great Again

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Posted by greentracker98 on Friday, June 14, 2013 1:32 AM

SchattenSpartan

Alclad all the way! Just a little tipp for ya: Polish the model before and after applying the gloss black paint.

What do you think of that tank-like thunderbolt in the last pic?

Cheers, Clemens

 

Clemens - At our last model club meeting, I seen a bottle of Alclad Stainless Steel on the shelf at my LHS. I've been thinking about it for a NMF on my Jug ever since. Will that give a good NMF?

What would you polish it with? And would I need to do that as well? What will the polish do?

I almost forgot I signed up for this GB lol Geeked I'll post some WIP pics of the Jug tomorrow.

 

A.K.A. Ken                Making Modeling Great Again

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, June 14, 2013 12:06 AM

Pencil me in for a 1/48 Tamiya P-51B.  I'll do Kidd Hofer's "Salem Representative" as soon as I'm done with my Bf 109 G-2.   I need a 4th fighter group '51 in my collection and I haven't done a B in years. 

Joe

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Taps88 on Friday, June 7, 2013 2:59 PM

I ran to my local Hobby Lobby and picked up Testor's MM Gloss Black and MM Aluminum. I also grabbed 2 bottle of each: Vallejo Natural Steel and Oily Steel. I bought them because they had them marked at $2.99.

I have never used Vallejo paints and was curious to try them out.

Eric / Formally known as Erock68

On the Bench:

Academy: 1/72 B17 Memphis Bell

Tamiya: 1/35 Panther G

Dragon: 1/35 Platformwagen SSy

 

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Posted by 68GT on Thursday, June 6, 2013 5:50 PM

Base was gloss gull gray FS16440 but I think with double shooting it would be a moot point.  I actually am going to try and get a dull finish out of this one.  This kit is definitely going to be a learning experience.

Banshee looks good!  I've always liked the look of it.

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Posted by Taps88 on Thursday, June 6, 2013 11:38 AM

No need to panic..just a test (although it looks like a low level fly by)

I know, you will ask about the office. Folks, there is none with this kit. There IS a pilot figure, that looks like he's sitting on a 2x4  that gets glued between the 2 fusalage halves. That's it! He doesn't even get a stick or one instrument to look at!  I won't be adding him....he's been grounded. This Aircraft must have sucked to fly Stick out tongue What's that little hole in the front, you may ask? Why silly, that's where the nose landing gear goes..duh!

Yes, there are some panel lines...you can't see them at this angle. I have it clamped to my drying board. I would have to scribe some more in..but again, it's just a test

I think I did a fairly decent job, filling in the seams, along with sanding and smoothing on this kit..here's a bottom & top view view:

Eric / Formally known as Erock68

On the Bench:

Academy: 1/72 B17 Memphis Bell

Tamiya: 1/35 Panther G

Dragon: 1/35 Platformwagen SSy

 

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Posted by Taps88 on Thursday, June 6, 2013 11:16 AM

This is a dumb question and I know it's certainly been asked before, but I can't help my stupidity.

Has anyone tried Krylon paints? I had to run to the store and get more primer (I use Kylons spray can grey primer on most of my builds) I was looking at their line of Metallics, Aluminums and so forth.

Any luck with this? I have some, from other projects, that I may test.

Eric / Formally known as Erock68

On the Bench:

Academy: 1/72 B17 Memphis Bell

Tamiya: 1/35 Panther G

Dragon: 1/35 Platformwagen SSy

 

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  • From: Ohio
Posted by Taps88 on Thursday, June 6, 2013 9:42 AM

68GT

OK, so the other day I shot the 105 with MM non-buffing aluminum but for some reason I didn't like the look of it.

I hope I didn't jump the gun but this morning I re-shot it with Testors silver enamel.  

So, you actually airbrushed 2 different shades of silver, correct?  What was your base? The last pic you posted, had just shown the masking of the canopy.

I like the look, of the last coat, over the 1st MM coat.   I know the above pic, is your initial MM spray.

Eric / Formally known as Erock68

On the Bench:

Academy: 1/72 B17 Memphis Bell

Tamiya: 1/35 Panther G

Dragon: 1/35 Platformwagen SSy

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:35 AM

Taps88

That aircraft is a beast!

It's almost saying..."Get my wings level and I can still take out more targets"

LOL, awesome comment! Big Smile Yes

Don't you know that the Thunderbolt was the best kamikaze-plane ever built? It was so tough that you just had to ram a ship and go right through it, just to fly away after doing it! But the pilots had to beware of high-calibre AA-fire (that stuff makes some nasty scratches in the paint...)

Ed: Looking good! I think the color is just the right shade, but I can only judge from that pic you posted...

Cheers, Clemens

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Posted by 68GT on Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:13 PM

So here is the Testors chrome silver.

It's even brighter than the MM Metalizer non-buff aluminum but the pigment is much finer so it might look ok after I tone it down a bit.  I might even stir up the brush cleaner bottle and spray that on very lightly after the decals and another gloss coat are on.

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Posted by Taps88 on Wednesday, June 5, 2013 5:20 PM

That aircraft is a beast!

It's almost saying..."Get my wings level and I can still take out more targets"

Eric / Formally known as Erock68

On the Bench:

Academy: 1/72 B17 Memphis Bell

Tamiya: 1/35 Panther G

Dragon: 1/35 Platformwagen SSy

 

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  • From: New Jersey
Posted by 68GT on Wednesday, June 5, 2013 5:09 PM

TAP,

I wouldn't worry too much if its a dud if your worried of what others might say since I think my 105 might turn out to be one.  If your passing just so you can get some practice first then it's OK.

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, June 5, 2013 4:07 PM

Alclad all the way! Just a little tipp for ya: Polish the model before and after applying the gloss black paint.

What do you think of that tank-like thunderbolt in the last pic?

Cheers, Clemens

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    March 2011
  • From: Ohio
Posted by Taps88 on Wednesday, June 5, 2013 3:45 PM

Test subject is under way.

This is progress so far, on the Banshee. It went together, quicker than I had expected. I did my filling and sanding, washed it down and is now ready for a Gloss Black coat.

Still not sure, which way I will go, to achieve the finish, Alclad or Tamiya. I do really like the sleek look, of this kit, even though it is an older Testors one. There may not be a lot of parts but she looks good!

Eric / Formally known as Erock68

On the Bench:

Academy: 1/72 B17 Memphis Bell

Tamiya: 1/35 Panther G

Dragon: 1/35 Platformwagen SSy

 

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    April 2013
Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, June 5, 2013 8:38 AM

I just recieved my first reference book for the Thunderbolt!

It is Sqadon's "P-47 Thunderbolt In Action" and it is a really lovely book (and really cheap at 10€)

Here are some pics:

 Color profiles:

Some plans:

They even included a pic of my favourite jug:

And last, but not least: A picture of a really good example for the Jug's ruggedness (note the description):

I really like this book and I can only recommend it, as it gives a great overview on the Thunderbolt, highlights all important differences between the various versions and there are lots of nice pictures in it as well. And all of that for only 10€!

Cheers, Clemens 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Tuesday, June 4, 2013 3:13 PM

No problem at all, mate!

Tamiya's mustang should be a blast to build (like all of their kits) I have the P-51B in my stash and I'll probably build her as a what-if MTO bird (with some desert camo on).

I changed your entry already.

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Posted by Taps88 on Tuesday, June 4, 2013 2:59 PM

SchattenSpartan

Shall I add that one to the build roster as well?

I think this is what I will do, Clemens.

Add the Testors 1/48 Banshee to this build. I went to the hobby store and picked up Tamiya's 1/48 P-51D 8th AF Mustang. Could you please remove the B-24, from the list and add the Mustang? I don't feel comfortable entering it (the B-24)...especially with some of the fine builds, that will come from this GB.

Sorry for the confusion. Hopefully, I can build the Mustang's appearance properly!

Eric / Formally known as Erock68

On the Bench:

Academy: 1/72 B17 Memphis Bell

Tamiya: 1/35 Panther G

Dragon: 1/35 Platformwagen SSy

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Tuesday, June 4, 2013 2:31 PM

Shall I add that one to the build roster as well?

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Posted by Taps88 on Tuesday, June 4, 2013 1:33 PM

Don't worry about it Clemens,

I want to do a "test build" and get some techniques learned, before I begin the B-24.

I have an old Testor F2H-2 Banshee, that I forgot was, in my stash. It's only about 25 or so parts. I have started building, this afternoon. I want to try my hand at this finish, before doing anything. I know it was a Navy fighter and didn't have natural metal. It's on my carrier now, so I am having the mechanics, strip off that pretty paint Stick out tongue

I will keep you updated.

This will be my NMF test subject:

Eric / Formally known as Erock68

On the Bench:

Academy: 1/72 B17 Memphis Bell

Tamiya: 1/35 Panther G

Dragon: 1/35 Platformwagen SSy

 

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    April 2013
Posted by SchattenSpartan on Tuesday, June 4, 2013 7:52 AM

This GB has started some days ago, but I'm not able to show you any progress sadly. I still have to wait for my reference books to arrive before I can start building...

Cheers, Clemens

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  • From: Ohio
Posted by Taps88 on Saturday, June 1, 2013 3:38 PM

SchattenSpartan

Randy: I'm glad to have you in here and I welcome you officially as my co-host! You are building a B-29 in 1/48!? Surprise Wow. That must be a huge bird! Can't wait to see your progress on it!

Ed: Looking nice! I can't wait to see more of that beauty! Yes

Eric: You're so in! I love that noseart! Good luck on your first NMF bird! You are right btw. I AM missing something. The decals haven't arrived yet, but they are not needed for this build 'till the very end, and that's going to be a long project! Wink

I wish you much fun guys!

Cheers, Clemens

I cannot wait to see progress on that!   I only wish I had the space for 1/48 bombers and that's a biggin'

Eric / Formally known as Erock68

On the Bench:

Academy: 1/72 B17 Memphis Bell

Tamiya: 1/35 Panther G

Dragon: 1/35 Platformwagen SSy

 

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    April 2013
Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, June 1, 2013 3:22 PM

I'm by far no expert on the big 'n' mighty jug, but I'll try to become one!

I just ordered me some reference material:

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/SQS1208

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/SQS6079

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/BGSB019

Yep, those AM goodies are just for that single Thunderbolt

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, June 1, 2013 3:21 PM

Randy: I'm glad to have you in here and I welcome you officially as my co-host! You are building a B-29 in 1/48!? Surprise Wow. That must be a huge bird! Can't wait to see your progress on it!

Ed: Looking nice! I can't wait to see more of that beauty! Yes

Eric: You're so in! I love that noseart! Good luck on your first NMF bird! You are right btw. I AM missing something. The decals haven't arrived yet, but they are not needed for this build 'till the very end, and that's going to be a long project! Wink

I wish you much fun guys!

Cheers, Clemens

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