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"GERMAN ARROWS" - OFFICIAL DO-335 GB

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Friday, August 2, 2013 7:02 PM

Doug, not sure if it will help, but I will try and dig out the Dragon kit and compare it with the A kit. Hopefully Dragon will have got it right.

Though of course you have the advantage that the night fighter was never built, so there no way you can be wrong.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Georgia
Posted by Rigidrider on Friday, August 2, 2013 8:52 PM

Your right Bish, a few were being studied for that type mission, and I saw some pictures of the aircraft in the midst of being fit for night fighter service but as you said , don't recall any ever entering active status.Very few of these beautiful  aircraft ever entered active service but what an impression they left on the limited usage they saw.

The second seat area can be used as the radar operators position, but the one I was interested in was the one that had a Blister in that position kind of like the navagators astro dome on a B-29. I've seen (rarely) conversions here and there but never wanted one at the time.

Oh well, we'll see, and although I want to build as close to an actual craft as possible, I feel a bit of artistic variance may be thrown in.(grin)Thanks Bish,

Take care

Doug

When Life Hands You A Bucket Of Lemons...

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Then Sell It Back At $2 Bucks A Glass...

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, August 3, 2013 1:46 AM

The blister type second seat is fitted to the Dragon kit, which is a B-6. I believe a prototype was on the construction line, but that's as far as it got. There was a proposed A-6 Nightfigther as well, and I think this has the two stepped cockpits, as on the Trainer. But I don't think that even got started.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by sheptr on Saturday, August 3, 2013 11:37 AM

Thanks for the warm welcome, everyone!

Looks like I'll get this started:

As mentioned, this is the Revell 1/48 kit.  It is a re-box of the Monogram kit.  Kit's detail is definitely a little soft.  I've been spoiled by the Eduard 190 I just finished! 

I'll be doing the single seater version.

Got the bottom half of the wing rescribed and riveted.   (Not that you can see it!)

I also didn't dig the copyright info in the wheel well.  Total pain to sand out.


On the bench:

1/48 Eduard Albatros D.V

1/48 Eduard Sopwith Camel

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  • From: Corpus Christi, Tx
Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, August 3, 2013 12:06 PM

I know I'm not in on this GB but there is an excellent reference for this bird. Its part of the Monogram/ Monarch series. I believe its #2 and it has some EXCELLENT reference materiel on this thing. I have the book in my collection and will be using it while building mine whenever I get around to it.

                   

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, August 3, 2013 12:11 PM

I think I can spot some of the scribed panel lines, Shep. Nice work! May I ask you how you did that? I have to rescribe some panel lines on a 1/48 Thunderbolt, but whatever I'm doing wrong, it doesn't seem to work really well...

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, August 3, 2013 12:12 PM

Thanks for the tip, Joe!

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, August 3, 2013 12:13 PM

No problem Clemens. It's got color photos (detailed ones) and all.

                   

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, August 4, 2013 3:41 AM

Nice start shept. You say you are doing the single seat version. Does the kit come with the option of building either version, or do they do a separate kit.

Clemens, that makes of us, I have been putting off re scribing panel lines, but would like to try it.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by sheptr on Sunday, August 4, 2013 10:34 AM

Schatten: Thanks! I've found the scribing tool itself is super important. On this model I'm using the Rb productions Scrib-R. I'm also using the Rivet-R from them as well. I've also used the Trumpeter tool, which works ok.

As far as process, first I'll take some 220 grit and "take the edge off" the panel lines, so to speak. If done right, you still should be able to see where the panel lines were. 

Then I'll take a small metal ruler, and scribe the straight lines with that. I normally do 3 passes. This leaves fine panel lines that also hold up to a bit more sanding. For straight lines that go over a curved surface. I'll use a razor saw as well, sometimes. The real tricky ones are the curved ones that go over a curved surface. I haven't found a good way to do those yet.

After all the panel lines have scribed, I'll take some 800 grit and smooth everything out. Finally, I'll use the Rivit-R to add in some rivets where necessary.

Any mistakes are corrected with white-out (pen correction fluid). Dries quick and sands well.

Hope that helps!


On the bench:

1/48 Eduard Albatros D.V

1/48 Eduard Sopwith Camel

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Posted by sheptr on Sunday, August 4, 2013 10:36 AM

Bish, the kit does come with both options and allows a choice. May have a go at the night fighter after this one!


On the bench:

1/48 Eduard Albatros D.V

1/48 Eduard Sopwith Camel

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, August 4, 2013 12:11 PM

Right, does the Nightfigther have the stepped canopy as on the trainer, or a small domwed second canopy.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, August 4, 2013 12:26 PM

Thanks for the tutorial! I have to get me a scribing tool now...

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Posted by falconmod on Monday, August 5, 2013 7:27 AM

Well I started mine last night, Didn't do to much.  But I all of a sudden I'm not sure what color the cockpit is painted? is it RLM02 or RLM66?

John

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier

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Posted by Bish on Monday, August 5, 2013 7:31 AM

66. 02 was only really used in early cockpits.

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Posted by falconmod on Monday, August 5, 2013 7:38 AM

Bish,

  Thanks for the info.  I'll be repainting! Oops

John

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier

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Posted by MAgather on Wednesday, August 7, 2013 10:22 PM

Clemens:

I'm having too much fun in your other GB not to join here. Tough decision.... Ich bauen ein Pfeil!  Tamiya 1/48 A model.

Good Modeling,
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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, August 8, 2013 5:47 AM

John: I like what I see. RLM 66 it is indeed.

Marty: Nice to have you in here as well! Willkommen im Pfeil GB! I added you to the list.

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Posted by waynec on Thursday, August 8, 2013 3:40 PM

might as well join this one too since i already put it down on my GB list and i haven't done a plane this year. will do the tamiya 1/48 and maybe also the revell as a 2-seater night fighter.

i use adobe photoshop and illustrator to create badges but i'm a technical illustrator with some 3D in real life so they are some of the tools of the trade.

Никто не Забыт    (No one is Forgotten)
Ничто не Забыто  (Nothing is Forgotten)

 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, August 8, 2013 3:46 PM

I hope someone here has shares in the Tamiya kit. That makes 4.

O what the hell, I can't leave Tony to be the only one doing this in the one true scale.

Doug is doing a Nightfigther if I recall. So stick me down for the 72nd dragon B-4 recon.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Corpus Christi, Tx
Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, August 8, 2013 3:50 PM

Man if I didn't have another 190 to do I'd DEFINITELY be in here  building! I've got a Tamiya two seater in the stash with just about everything thats made resin and PE wise for it. Hell I even have a little 1/48 BMW R75 motorcycle I bought to go with it at the time. Currently I don't really know if the motorcycle was used around the Pfeil  much though!

                   

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, August 8, 2013 6:14 PM

Bish, Wayne: It's nice to have you guys in here! I put both of you on the list.

Joe: Do you want me to list you as undecided? It doesn't matter if you can't finish your build in time. The goal of ths GB is to have fun anyway!

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, August 8, 2013 9:18 PM

Not right now Clemens ol buddy! I will be peeping in on this from time to time though.

                   

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, August 9, 2013 6:51 AM

No worries, mate!

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Posted by sheptr on Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:59 PM

Hi everyone,

Bit more progress.  Have the majority of the kit rescribed, so I mocked it up real quick. Yes  Fit is pretty good! May have to do some cleanup at the wing roots, but nothing too major.


On the bench:

1/48 Eduard Albatros D.V

1/48 Eduard Sopwith Camel

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, August 10, 2013 3:36 PM

Looking good.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, August 10, 2013 4:19 PM

Nice work!

It seems like that Monogram kit has a better fit than most of the more recent kits...

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  • From: Georgia
Posted by Rigidrider on Wednesday, August 14, 2013 6:10 AM

Still collecting info and parts to do my build, I found a cool looking camo scheme I may try to do, but will likely be imaginative and will surely take many "artistic liberties" with this one, since so few actually made it into service. Thanks to Bish I was able to track down some pictures of the "blister' dome for the radar/weapons operator. This will have to be scratch built being I can find no source for the 48th scale kits. Getting close to having all I need to begin, just need to finish my Eduards D-9 for the Butcher Bird GB. We cant all be Clemens and have 5 GBs and builds all going at the same time! (ha) Just kidding bud!

Maybe when I'm retired I will build a larger bench, and have a lazy susan fixture where I can just spin it from one build to the next!(LOL)

Take care my friends!

Doug

When Life Hands You A Bucket Of Lemons...

Make Lemonade!

Then Sell It Back At $2 Bucks A Glass...

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  • From: Milaca, Minnesota
Posted by falconmod on Wednesday, August 14, 2013 6:47 AM

I wish my exhausts would come from my LHS!    Would love to get the fuselage glued together. wait wait wait,Whistling  Oh wait I suppose i could start another Fw190!!! Surprise   Just trying to keep up with Clemen's!

John

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:41 PM

Rigidrider

Still collecting info and parts to do my build, I found a cool looking camo scheme I may try to do, but will likely be imaginative and will surely take many "artistic liberties" with this one, since so few actually made it into service. Thanks to Bish I was able to track down some pictures of the "blister' dome for the radar/weapons operator. This will have to be scratch built being I can find no source for the 48th scale kits. Getting close to having all I need to begin, just need to finish my Eduards D-9 for the Butcher Bird GB. We cant all be Clemens and have 5 GBs and builds all going at the same time! (ha) Just kidding bud!

Maybe when I'm retired I will build a larger bench, and have a lazy susan fixture where I can just spin it from one build to the next!(LOL)

Take care my friends!

Doug

I will be watching to see what you come up with for that dome. I have an Me 264 I want to add a couple of domes to and no idea how. Was thinking about vac u forming, but that seems a lot to go through for a kit or two. And I know the feeling. I am really have to make sure I build in the right order to get all my GB's done in time. I have lost count of how many I am in, let alone running.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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