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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, January 16, 2014 7:48 PM

Hey GM, thanks for the correction!

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, January 17, 2014 1:00 AM

 Hey gamera, not a correction, just an added trivia detail.

Nemo is a rough kit. Not bad, and the only game in town, but really coarse.

So I'm pretty much through the Green Stuff stage. three solid nights and next mornings filling seams, bubbles, and back on eac at least twice or three times. In the mean time cutting down pour ridges with coarse sanding sticks.

I have to say that the artist who sculptured the legs/ torso head did a great job. It just has a natural kind of slouch and flat footed diver look. I really like it.

All of those fasteners on the helmet and breastplate are badly molded. On the real thing (snark!) they are these helix/ hurricane kind of wing nuts. So I'll make those.

The tank/ regulator backpack that came with the kit is a piece of junk. I am thinking a two day job just to make a new one. More on all of this later.

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Posted by Eagle90 on Friday, January 17, 2014 5:11 AM

GMorrison

Gamera

James Doohan had medium brown eyes, and a bit of trivia was missing the tip of one finger- I forget which one. Doohan, a Canadian, went ashore on D-Day and had the tip shot off- which he joked 'I gave Hitler the finger'. Oddly on the show with the whole idea that everyone in the future is perfect they used someone else's hand or had him curl his fingers under the palm in most of the shots showing him operating the transporter or other close ups of his hands.

Middle finger on the right, and the whole finger. 

He wasn't a Scot either- I should know. But we'll give him a pass on that accent- it made me smile.

Thanks G for the info.  See, I'm learning about more than just modeling here!  Great stuff, thanks again!

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Friday, January 17, 2014 8:56 AM

Coming along nicely, GMorrison! 

More on Conan's sword:

I cut it out with a hobby knife. I moved the blade to the big handle to give me something more to hang on to.

I refined and shaped the blade with sandpaper and cut out the cross-guard. I drilled the cross-guard out with a pin vise and then refined the hole with a sharp hobby knife.

The cross-guard fits! 

I kinda wanna go find a couple of grade-school math teachers who got on my case about doodling swords and building mini-crossbows in class and tell them, "See? I wasn't wasting my time. Yours, maybe. But not mine."

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, January 17, 2014 11:28 AM

GM: That is a very nicely done figure! I'm looking forward to seeing how he paints up.

Tim: Nice pig-sticker! Good to hear how your education prepared you for your current job too!

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, January 20, 2014 8:37 AM

BUMP- to kick GB back to the front page...

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Monday, January 20, 2014 8:41 AM

Good morning, everyone!

Hope you had a productive weekend. I did get a bit accomplished ... I have to edit video today. Then I'll get back to you guys with some pics.

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Posted by jgeratic on Monday, January 20, 2014 4:08 PM

GM, that deep sea diver is gonna look cool.  I noticed the putty work, also green stuff or Squadron brand?

Tim - liking that sword.  I almost built Red's dagger the same way, just the pommel and handle were separate.

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Some of my weekend was spent on face details and overall flesh tones.  Her hair for now is just filled in with a solid red and a brown wash to better gauge her skin colour.  Still have a problem to solve with the eyes - size does not match.  I've tried once already, so hope the third try will do it.  I'm just too stubborn to use some sort of magnification at the workbench.

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Jack

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Posted by Eagle90 on Monday, January 20, 2014 6:34 PM

Wow!  What great work you all are doing.  Man, you all know how to do figures!  I'm learning, and you can tell!  Embarrassed  But I am having a great time building Mr. Scott.  Seriously thinking of getting the other kits to have them all!

So, here is another question...this may be better suited for the Sci-Fi threads, but thought I'd start here.  The kit has what they are calling a "Deuterium Flux Orientation Sensor" that goes into Mr. Scott's hand.  I have googled it and can not find a pic of one anywhere.  Anyone know the colors and such fo rthis tool?   There is no color reference in the instructions either.  I am so close to finishing this and I'm working on the base and this tool and ran into a road block when I realized I had no idea what to paint it!  Thanks in advance for any help!

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Monday, January 20, 2014 8:06 PM

Eagle90
So, here is another question...this may be better suited for the Sci-Fi threads, but thought I'd start here.  The kit has what they are calling a "Deuterium Flux Orientation Sensor" that goes into Mr. Scott's hand. 

Possibly this thingy?

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Monday, January 20, 2014 11:38 PM

OK, so finally some pics of my progress. As I've said, I'm nibbling around the edges of the build while my brain chews on my next move with the figure proper.

You all remember the chest. Here it is with the top nearly complete. I used 1/16" x 3/16" basswood strips and cut them to length using a Northwest Chopper.

I finished the top, sanded it smooth and evened up the edges with sides, and stained the whole thing with Minwax Ipswich pine. To represent iron bands, I super glued .010" styrene strip around the base and top of the chest and the base of the chest lid. I also ran two strips over the lid front to back.

Once the bands were on, I drilled holes for large rivets with a micro-bit chucked in a pin vise. The rivets are dollhouse cabinet pull-knobs. I super glued the hinges in place then drilled pilot holes for the screws. Last, I punched rivet holes in the lid's bands with a sewing needle. Then I dipped the needle in white glue and dabbed little rivet heads over each hole.

 The key plate is from the same set as the door pulls I used for the large rivets. Where the bands overlap, I used Tamiya extra thin plastic cement. It melts the plastic and make it pliable. I was able to make the plastic look like worked metal, I think.

Here's the back of the treasure chest. 

Here's a better shot of the white-glue rivet heads. I wasn't worried about getting them perfect, since they'd have been smacked in hot and I figured they'd be a little disfigured from the process. With painting highlights, I'll be able to fool the eye a if I want to clean them up a bit.

Next, I'll mask off the wood and paint the the bands, but that won't happen until I start painting everything. The last thing that will have to happen is handles on the sides. I have some narrow leather strap that I think I'll use for those.

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Monday, January 20, 2014 11:52 PM

jgeratic
Tim - liking that sword.  I almost built Red's dagger the same way, just the pommel and handle were separate.

Thanks, Jack. Red looks good. I can see what you're talking about with her eyes. However, and it might be the angle, it looks like you have her arching her left eye brow more than her left--a sort of "You said what? To me?" look. That would naturally have her left eye a bit wider than her right, yes? Don't know if I'm helping on that one.

Regardless, she's starting to come alive. Nice work!

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Posted by jgeratic on Tuesday, January 21, 2014 2:14 AM

Tim, that wooden chest turned out super, IKEA has nothing over you.

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I can see what you are saying about Red's expression as well as the eyebrow, though the rest of her face is not supporting that particular look.  I wish it could be explained away like that, but no it will need to be fixed - thanks.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, January 21, 2014 7:52 AM

Jack: Looks great! I can't really tell about the size of the eyes from the angle but they look perfect otherwise. I see you're starting to lay in the highlights, looks really good so far. I love the red hair even with nothing more than the wash, looking forward to how it looks with the highlights added.

Tim: Great job there, a little paint and staining and she's be the real thing.

Eagle: Not totally sure there, I have the kit somewhere and will have to look it up. I think the doohicky though is one of the standard props that ended up repurposed a dozen or more times over the series. If it's the one I think it is I'm thinking it was a dark bluish grey with aluminum fittings - pretty much the same colours as the phasors.

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Posted by Eagle90 on Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:57 AM

Gamera

Jack: Looks great! I can't really tell about the size of the eyes from the angle but they look perfect otherwise. I see you're starting to lay in the highlights, looks really good so far. I love the red hair even with nothing more than the wash, looking forward to how it looks with the highlights added.

Tim: Great job there, a little paint and staining and she's be the real thing.

Eagle: Not totally sure there, I have the kit somewhere and will have to look it up. I think the doohicky though is one of the standard props that ended up repurposed a dozen or more times over the series. If it's the one I think it is I'm thinking it was a dark bluish grey with aluminum fittings - pretty much the same colours as the phasors.

Thanks Gamera.  I was thinking of the aluminum/steel idea too.  The blue/grey would be a good color for one of the ends.  The box pic for Mr. Scott shows a silver and goldish looking coloring.  Not what I would do.  Don't remember seeing too much gold color tools in the series.  Thanks again!

Eagle90

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, January 21, 2014 11:52 AM

Tim Kidwell

Eagle90
So, here is another question...this may be better suited for the Sci-Fi threads, but thought I'd start here.  The kit has what they are calling a "Deuterium Flux Orientation Sensor" that goes into Mr. Scott's hand. 

Possibly this thingy?

Here's one modelers go at it-

BTW Tim that shot is a good example of how they hid Doohan's right hand.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, January 21, 2014 12:10 PM

Ahhh, sorry so it's a different doohickey than the thingamabob I was thinking about Stick out tongue

BTW: GM is that figure modified for a 'Mirror Universe' Evil Scotty? 

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Posted by Eagle90 on Tuesday, January 21, 2014 7:38 PM

Thank you all for the help with the engineering equipment question.  I may take some time to work that, but I think Mr. Scott is ready!  I've gotten to the point where I fear I may over do the detailing and make it start to look really bad.  So, I gave him a touch up here and there and had him "beam" over to the transporter room to report for duty!  So without further ado.........Chief Engineer Mr. Scott! 

Many thanks to all of you who graciously helped with my novice questions and gave super advice and assistance!  This was a great build and taught me a lot of new techniques.  I am actively watching eBay to get Mr. Spock, McCoy, and the Capt. to round out a complete set!  They will look great all together on the Sci-Fi section of my display shelves......when I get the shelves finished!  Thanks again everyone!  Greatly appreciate your help and support!

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Posted by shivinigh on Tuesday, January 21, 2014 7:38 PM

Tim- your chest turned out really nice. I love the wood look that it has. What would you use as a varnish on that. A regular wood varnish?

Jgeratic- Red's eyes really have that "don't mess with me" look to them. Kinda of scary. Nicely done.

Here is my progress report. The work is going slower that I hoped but the strips are laying down nicely. After all the strips are down I will go over it with Mr. Surfacer to fill all the connections in to make them look smooth than paint them silver.

Touch up all the black than on to the base. The ingraved webbing on his suit is helping a lot to guide the strips into place.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by shivinigh on Tuesday, January 21, 2014 7:48 PM

Eagle- incredible job on Mr. Scott. He looks right at home with the transporter in the background? I applaud your workmanship.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 2:04 AM

Eagle, great job on Scotty and glad to see that this group has opened up your interest in figure modeling.  

One other item I forgot to mention is the 5 o'clock shadow.   If you have a dark brown, dark grey or black weathering powder, apply a very very light amount to the appropriate areas.  It should be barely visible, I suggest even walking away for a few minutes after application, and when you come back to the work bench you will notice it.  It can be easily over done.

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shiv - slow but steady work, I think this will uniquely make this your own.

regards,

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Posted by Eagle90 on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 5:28 AM

Thanks Shiv!  Yeah, the transporter was a quick thing and of course with his scale, the regular paper size didn't quite fit, but it was kinda cool.  Thanks again and great work on yours!  You've got the detail work down much better than I do.  Looks great!

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Posted by Eagle90 on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 5:35 AM

Thank you Jack!  It has really shown me some other techniques and I had a blast doing it!  I'm seriously looking into getting the other 3 to have a complete crew up on the shelves!

See, I'm still learning things!  I never thought about a 5 o'clock shadow!  One thing I learned is the subtlety of the details.  Like the finger nails for example.  Hard to see in the pics, but I lightened the flesh tone with some white and it made just enough difference to add cool detail to the kit.  I'm definitely going to do the 5 o'clock shadow tonight when I get home!  Thanks!

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 7:49 AM

Eagle: Wow, fantastic work there! Just a great job all around! Good luck on finding the rest of the figures, I got the three piece set of Jim, 'Bones', and Scotty some years back and they're really well done figures that capture the likenesses of the actors very well. Guess I need to hunt down the Spock figure some day to have the complete set though.

Shiv: That's going to look awesome when done, just hope you don't get burnt out before then! I have a bad habit of starting projects that seem cool but wear out before I can get then done.

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 8:35 AM

Eagle,

Well done! I think Mr. Scott look fantastic. Jack's advise about the 5 o'clock shadow is spot on, although I  more often use a wash or stippling. With that said, I have a large collection of Pan Pastels and have been thinking about using them on Conan. That might be the place to do it.

Make sure to add the group-build ribbon to your signature line! And don't bug out on us just yet. There are still lots of figures still to come, and we definitely want your comments.

Tim

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Posted by Eagle90 on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 8:42 AM

Gamera

Eagle: Wow, fantastic work there! Just a great job all around! Good luck on finding the rest of the figures, I got the three piece set of Jim, 'Bones', and Scotty some years back and they're really well done figures that capture the likenesses of the actors very well. Guess I need to hunt down the Spock figure some day to have the complete set though.

Shiv: That's going to look awesome when done, just hope you don't get burnt out before then! I have a bad habit of starting projects that seem cool but wear out before I can get then done.

Thank you Gamera!  I'd definitely get the Spock to have the whole set.  After doing this one, I will have the others to go along with it!  Thanks again for all the help!

Eagle90

 

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Posted by Eagle90 on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 8:45 AM

Tim Kidwell

Eagle,

Well done! I think Mr. Scott look fantastic. Jack's advise about the 5 o'clock shadow is spot on, although I  more often use a wash or stippling. With that said, I have a large collection of Pan Pastels and have been thinking about using them on Conan. That might be the place to do it.

Make sure to add the group-build ribbon to your signature line! And don't bug out on us just yet. There are still lots of figures still to come, and we definitely want your comments.

Tim

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Thank you Tim!  That means a lot coming from you guys!  I was thinking of the same thing.  Using pastels (very lightly!) for just a hint of a 5 o'clock shadow. 

Bug out?  No way.  Too many very cool builds here!  Many of which are now on my wish list!  Great work everyone!  I'm watching and learning!

Eagle90

 

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:06 AM

By the way, Mr. Scott is now in the Hall of Fame on the GB's first page.

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:51 AM

Tim Kidwell

Eagle,

Well done! I think Mr. Scott look fantastic. Jack's advise about the 5 o'clock shadow is spot on, although I  more often use a wash or stippling. With that said, I have a large collection of Pan Pastels and have been thinking about using them on Conan. That might be the place to do it.

Tim

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Yup, as Tim said - you want to use a stippling motion as opposed to dragging the brush across the surface when applying powder.  This gives a grainy look like actual stubble, however again I stress being very light handed in this approach.

Here's a couple examples on 1/35 scale figures done a few years back:

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Eagle90 on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:04 AM

Tim Kidwell

By the way, Mr. Scott is now in the Hall of Fame on the GB's first page.

Thank you sir!

Eagle90

 

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