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Posted by Chuck Davis on Thursday, January 30, 2014 11:10 AM

Sorry to hear about your ride, Gamera.

Guys I have to say the work here is fantastic.  I'm learning a bunch of stuff, including the fact that these figures aren't as straightforward as they first seemed.  The only thing I've managed to start on Zorro is some major hip surgery for his horse.  I haven't been able to get back at him because of other required modeling (hey...I'm not complaining).  Therefore, for completely selfish reasons extending the deadline gets a big thumbs up from me...I might actually get something done.

As for t-shirt vs. mug, I will withhold my vote on the likelihood that I won't actually finish.  I will say, my WW1 mug is cool.  I will however gladly add my vote to a final wrestling vlog.

Take care everyone...I'm a watchin' you!

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, January 30, 2014 11:14 AM

Thanks guys, we only get weather like this in Virginia a few weeks out of the year. Physically I'm fine, just really honked off. Most of the ice had melted by noon, if I'd just called in to work and told them I couldn't make it I'd still have a car. Guess I'm just mad at the weather and myself. I should be able to make the deadline without any problems- it's just I'm not really in a constructive, creative mood right now more irritable and grouchy . I spent last night playing a computer game hacking up monsters and doing other angry anti-social things. Just need to cool off a little and I'll be back to painting.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, January 30, 2014 3:21 PM

Eagle, nice work on Scotty. Nice pic with the backdrop as well. As for the gadget, well, that's interesting.

Greg, that's nice work on Superman, those eyes look really good.

Jack, wow, nice.

Tim, Aaron, that's some beautiful work there guys. And Tim, I am sure we realise you guys have a lot to do there, so I am sure you will be forgiven. As for the T-Shirt/Mug, this is a bit of a cop out, but could we not do both. Are you guys planning on printing the t-shirts and sending them out, or giving us the design. If the former, could you not give us the design for the mug so we can do our own.

I know, I am being greedy Embarrassed

And I think I need to put my 88 to one side and get a move on with darth.

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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, January 30, 2014 5:15 PM

Gamera, while totaling the car totally sucks at least YOU are not totaled and that's what's important.

It's a rare thing for me to put a model on the back burner.  Just twice in the 9 years back in the hobby... well... 3 nowSad...  The big green guy wasn't motivating me and on top of that I have a case of  "109 FEVER"Indifferent  A March end would be great and hopefully I will get the 109F-4 I am working on done and go green again.  And I don't mean separating my recyclables.Wink  I have been lurking here though and keeping tabs on the great work. 

Chalk me up with a vote for the mug.  Besides, shouldn't be hard to work it in an editor into something that will work for a shirt too.

Marc  

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Friday, January 31, 2014 9:01 AM

Marc! Good to see you!

OK. It seems that we should go with the mugs again. Like last time, we'll put together the image file and email it out to all the participants. We use Cafe Press here, but I think we had a couple of other guys (Bish for sure) use similar companies in the UK, EU, and Canada.

As for the deadline, we'll push it back to March 31. It's space, but not a lot, so don't slow down! Push onward! Whip the beast!

Er ... yeah.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, January 31, 2014 9:07 AM

Hey Marc, thanks for putting things in perspective, just need to get it pushed though my thick skull. Hope you're able to finish in the extended deadline, I know what it feels like to start something and then lose steam as you work your way though it - way too many times here.

Tim: Thanks for the extension!

I'm in a somewhat better mood, airbrushed the red on Picard's uniform last night. Now I need to do all the shading etc. Both figures are pretty close to done other than the detail painting. I need to post more photos but both figures are wrapped up like the mummy right now so there's not much to see but the masking.

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Posted by Bish on Friday, January 31, 2014 9:11 AM

My Mrs will live that, another mug. I think my mug collection is approaching the size of my stash Big Smile. I got my last one from a site called your design, if anyone needs the link, let me know. They don't do black, so I think it will have to be blue this time.

I am defiantly going to work on Darth tonight, main aim is to get the bottom part of the tunic right and then get a coat of primer on it. But a month extension defiantly takes the pressure off.

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Posted by Aaron Skinner on Friday, January 31, 2014 9:14 AM

Guys,

Another update on Dredd. I sprayed the parts with Valleje gray primer:

It revealed a few flaws that will need to be fixed, mostly sanding and minor filling. I hope to start serious painting next week.

It appears the mugs have the winning votes, so I'm saved the embarrassment of being swiftly and painfully defeated by Tim at arm wrestling.

Cheers, Aaron

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Posted by jgeratic on Saturday, February 1, 2014 5:04 PM

Gamera - sorry to read about your incident, but thankfully you are alright.  As to your question regarding Red's face, no plans to further highlights.  I find going too much contrast limits acceptable viewing angles at this scale.

Marc - it's alive, and he's back.  Look forward to more of the Creature.

Tim - the belt made of lead foil looks perfect, and it's something I might borrow for Red as well.

Aaron - as you say, closing in on the paint booth - excellent prep work btw.

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I'd probably choose the mug too as it is constantly on display, unless it's in the dishwasher.

Good move on the extension, as this GB was straddled with the big holiday.   I'm hoping to be done this month, but you never know.  As I'm writing this, seriously considering stripping Red's face due to paint build up...

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, February 1, 2014 6:27 PM

Aaron: Looks cool, looking forward to seeing you slap some paint on him.

Jack: Thanks, a little sore but ok. I think Red looks great, maybe the photos don't really show the paint build-up. Just seems to be a shame to strip it when it looks that good.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, February 2, 2014 3:10 AM

Nice work Aaron, will be nice to see some paint on Dredd.

I got the bottom piece of darth tunic fitted. Its not perfect, but I was afraid if I kept trimming it to fit, I would have nothing left. But the cape covers all but the sides of it. I got a coat of primer on and then the flat black painted. I was going to use the airbrush, but I started on the cape and it was taking for ever, so I went and got a couple of tins of Humbroal spray Matt black. Its just drying at the moment, so wil get some pics up later today.

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Monday, February 3, 2014 8:14 AM

Welcome to February!

Two months to go! Eight weeks! It's crunch time!

Lots of work planned this week, from both Aaron and me. We'll also get a vlog out to you guys, so don't hold back. We'll need pics to show off your great work.

Jack - I thin the belt turned out nicely, too. Now, I just have to complete the frog and get the sword glued in place.

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Monday, February 3, 2014 9:37 AM

Everyone,

Just finalizing the art work for the mug. If you're interested in the getting a mug to commemorate you're participation in the group build, email me. Once the artwork is finalized, I'll email you the hi-res jpeg as an attachment. Again, these will only be sent out to participants in the Heroes & Villains Group Build.

Thanks for hanging with us here! Now to tamper with Dredd's Lawgiver ...

Tim

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, February 3, 2014 11:33 AM

Good luck Bish, I wouldn't want to be Lord Vader's tailor...

'The cut of these pants..... displeases me.....'

'ACK, CHOKE, THUMP!'

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Posted by shivinigh on Monday, February 3, 2014 2:59 PM

Just a quick up date for Spidy. Well I finished the head his back and started down his arm.

I am hoping to have all the plastic strip done in the next 2 weeks than paint.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, February 3, 2014 3:25 PM

Remembered to get some pics tonight. I got two coats of flat black on the cape and tunic yesterday, then tonight I got 1 coat of semi close on the body suit. Tomorrow I will get a second coat of semi gloss and a coat of gloss on the armour, helmet, boots and gloves.

Here you can see where the bottom of the tunic does fit.  This originaly came in one piece with the cape and needed cutting out. I am sure I cut it out correctly, but with the ends attached, there seemed to be two much in the middle. As I said before, I didn't want to just go on trimming. So I warmed it with a hairdryer (been years since I used one of those) and softened it enough o push it in and glue it in a couple of places. None of this will be seen with the cape on.

And here is the cape. I am thinking of using a very dark black oil paint mix as highlights on the cape.

 I should have the black done by the weekend and can start on the detail painting.

Gamera

Good luck Bish, I wouldn't want to be Lord Vader's tailor...

'The cut of these pants..... displeases me.....'

'ACK, CHOKE, THUMP!'

Once he see's it, I think I might need to apologies. You think he will except.

  

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, February 3, 2014 9:46 PM

Lol, very true!

Yeah, you might try a dark grey on the tops of the folds. So far looking good!

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 8:06 AM

Bish and Shiv - Thumbs WAAAY up! Nice mods to Darth, and Spidey's webbing really makes the model pop.

Marc - Nice to hear from you! Let us know what we can do to get you back in the "gillman" spirit. Do Aaron and I need to sing you a song on the next vlog?

Chuck - Zorro!

Eagle and Bish have sounded off about the mug art. If you want the art, just drop me a line at tkidwell@finescale.com. And remember, you don't have to finish. It's all about participation here ... Although, if you saw what happened with the WWI Aeroplane Group Build, there are other bonuses for finishing.

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Posted by gregbale on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 8:57 AM

Marc, great to hear from you! Glad to see you checked in.

Gamera, glad to hear you escaped your little weather misadventure in one piece. hope you're in the mood and back to painting any time now.

Bish, your Lord Vader is looking appropriately sinister. Black on black is always a challenge to paint/weather, and I'm looking forward to seeing the treatment as you progress.

Shiv, Spidey is looking freakin' awesome. That's up-detailing above and beyond; really cranked to see what you do with this.

Aaron, your work on Judge Dredd is most inspiring. It's always great to see a little creative styrene application defeat those annoying flaws in a good kit.

Tim and Aaron, thanks for the extension. With what the weather has wrought on all of us in assorted ways, the extra time is most welcome. Oh, and....

Tim Kidwell

Marc - Nice to hear from you! Let us know what we can do to get you back in the "gillman" spirit. Do Aaron and I need to sing you a song on the next vlog?

I think we all could use a song...purely in the interests of keeping morale up and such. Perhaps "Whale Of A Tale," in honor of GMorrison's beautiful Captain Nemo?

Great work, all! Really enjoying being a part of this GB. I've spent the last few days painting bricks in the wall Supe's knocking down, will post pics when there's some progress to show.

Greg

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 10:44 AM

Hey Shiv, sorry I missed you, we'd flipped over to a new page and I didn't even see your last post. Really nice work on the web-slinger. As I said I might get about 10% of the figure done and then burn out on the project. Great idea and kudos for sticking with it to the end!

Greg: Thanks, feeling much better now- till I get the repair bill anyway! Looking forward to seeing more work on Supes, if the rest of the figure matches the superlative work you did on his face he's going to be an award winner!  

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 1:56 PM

Thanks guys.

greg, this is my first time doing black on black. But I think using matt, semi gloss and gloss plus the different textures will do a lot of the work for me.

I was home late tonight, so wasn't able to get any more done, but all being well will do tomorrow.

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Posted by jgeratic on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 2:26 PM

Shiv - as others have stated, awesome work on the web-crawler.

Bish - this is going to be a great study on the variety of blacks, and you are doing a fine job of it.  Another concept you can include is warm and cool shades of black.  So those areas in shadow would have a hint of blue, while top areas, or those in direct light, would have a touch of red.

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Technical issues at the bench are preventing me from posting any updates that show progress to the point I had arrived at earlier.  Overnight, Red had her head dunked in a vat of Simply Green cleaner.  When it came to scrubbing off the layers of paint, her torso also began to peel (from the the fumes?), so ended up stripping the whole figure.  Even the Tamiya surfacer primer came off, so that means filling and sanding all over again.

So thinking positive, going to take the opportunity to incorporate the old masters technique of  Verdaccio.  This was a method of doing an underpainting in a green shade (usually black and ocher mix).  It was really more intended as a study of light and shadow before applying the colours proper.  The green though does provide a good contrast for skin, since it is the complimentary colour of red -  so  it should still be visible in deep shadow areas.  Hope to have some pics illustrating this by week's end.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by gregbale on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 2:41 PM

Here's some stuff half-done.

The Super-torso assembled, puttied, sanded, (puttied, sanded, puttied, sanded....) and primed. White primer on white plastic against a white background, sorry 'bout that.

Brick wall sections. I primed with gray enamel just to give a darkish color underneath everything, then laid in the mortar lines in gray-white acrylic. Individual bricks painted in shades of Testors square-bottle rust, tinted with random mixes of tan, brown and gray. (The color variations are more obvious to the eye than in the photo.) Finished section attached to one of the crumpled I-beams. Once all the bricks are done I'll go back and add a wash to the cracks, then weather with oil filters and drubrushing, more on the "outside," less on the "inside."

.The kit's decals for the tunic and cape logos are notoriously useless, pretty much solvent-proof and completely unwilling to lay down (particularly over the compound curves of the chest muscles). I pondered the possibility of making masks, then just bit the kryptonite bullet and decided to hand-paint the logo, at least on the chest. I laid out a suitable version in pencil (a bit larger than the kit decal, as well), then grabbed my trusty 3/0 brush and had at it. In progress:

And more-or-less done, minus a bit of retouching, cleaning and smoothing of brushstrokes:

That's it for now. Thanks, Gamera, for the words of encouragement. Up, up and away!

Greg

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 2:53 PM

Jack, sounds an interesting idea. There are plenty of areas hidden from view I can try that on.

This might sound a silly question, but would these mean using very dark blues and red's or actually adding blue and red to black. And would this work along with dry brushing dark grey or instead of. I have never used colours in that sort of way before.

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 2:54 PM

The group build is coming to life now!

Greg - Nicely done! Very old school, both in technique and look. Sometimes the best ways are the old ways.

Jack - NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! <intake breath> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

You are way better at taking this "challenge" than I would be. So, on your behalf: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 2:55 PM

greg, that's a nice job on the logo, and hats off for giving it a go.

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Posted by gregbale on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 3:13 PM

Wow, Jack, I missed your post.

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Jack - NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! <intake breath> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

You are way better at taking this "challenge" than I would be. So, on your behalf: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

↑    What he said!

Greg

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, February 5, 2014 12:53 AM

Boy Jack that makes me want to have a scotch.

Well there's time I guess.

Guys take a look at this:

www.ikonograph.com/icon1.html

I used to do this in a previous life, ochre is a good base color.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, February 5, 2014 3:27 AM

Greg - Supes and the brick wall are really looking good.  Your freehanding the chest logo is tops.  

Bish - I'd suggest just trying the red for highlights for now, and see how you like it.  At this scale, natural lighting will lighten the colour naturally.  Method of choice - I'd mix a little red with your black, and just simply airbrush from top down direction.  Just keep it simple and slight.   Also just try it on his cape, since this is the only true cloth piece on Darth?  

Here's an example of red highlights on a black jacket, and notice how the the dark areas have a bluish/purple look.

GMorrison - interesting link.  Are you saying you were a portrait artist at one time?

Yes, ochre and other earth tones is what the old masters used on canvas to create skin tones, there was no pre-made skin coloured paint back then  -lol.

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Guys, thanks for the concerns, but plan is to rely heavily on the airbrush which should go fast.  What I'm planning is really similar to pre-shading, but on a more curvacious surface.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, February 5, 2014 11:34 AM

Greg: Looks good! Looking forward to seeing him come together!

Jack: OMG, well at least now you can just duplicate what you did before so it should go faster. Gosh I hate going back and redoing something esp something intricate and time-consuming again...

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