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Rommel vs Monty (North African GB 1941-43) Jan. 1 - Aug. 31 2014

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    April 2013
Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, April 14, 2014 4:27 AM

Thanks for the comparison!

I plan on building the E in DAK markings for this GB with CMK interior (it's for Tamiya's P.IV, but it should fit the Dragon kit as well) I heard about some things being wrong with the DAK kit that are corrected in tha Vorpanzer one, but I don't plan on fixing them. Most of them are minor inaccuracies that almost noone is going to notice except for those Panzer gurus that know the exact placement of every bolt on the real thing...

  • Member since
    May 2011
  • From: Illinois
Posted by armor86 on Monday, April 14, 2014 12:40 AM

Hey SchattenSpartan - Reviews have compared the 'D' Tristar and Dragon super kits and what I recall the Tristar kit had the right gun length and better turret however the tristar hull can be hard to fit right.  Enclosed link on the new Dragon 'D' 6779 - http://www.missing-lynx.com/reviews/german/dml6779reviewcs_1.html 

Dragon 6779 - has the DS track, the hull is correct for early D, engine deck and tropical stuff is correct. Have an after market interior which test fits the low hull / deck. Smile Yes

I have the earlier Tristar 'D' (015) which is harder to build (lower hull) and does not have the turret storage bin, likely build it for either France or Poland. Hmm

Have several after market PE for both the Dragon D and Tristar D - extra bolt on armor plates etc. The Dragon IV Ausf. E Vorpanzer has two lower hulls with corrected front drive. So when I get around to building it  I will likely use it with the earlier kit. 

I've thinking the newer Dragon Smart kit will build closer to the DAK vehicle ... I've build two / three of the Dragon smart kits (Pz III Ausf. J initial and late and Pz I and they didn't need as much work to build up compared to the older DML kits from 1990s (Pz III Ausf. G - Pz IV Ausf. F1)  Star Armor86 

Tags: DML , Dragon , Panzer IV , Tristar

 


Dan

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  • From: Rockford, IL
Posted by AlanF on Sunday, April 13, 2014 7:36 PM

Wow Dan, excellent. It came out really nice.

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, April 13, 2014 6:33 PM

I also have the two Dragon "E" kits (DAK and Vorpanzer), but not the "D". I still have to decide between the Tristar and Dragon kit. Tristar's version seems a bit more accurate, but I just had a better bilding experience with Dragon kits compared to Tristar.

What do ou think is the best of the 3 "D"s? Tristar, Dragon Super Kit or Dragon Smart kit?

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    May 2011
  • From: Illinois
Posted by armor86 on Sunday, April 13, 2014 6:19 PM

I have several Dragon Super Kits (posted photos at the beginning of GB) - currently have in the stash the Pz IV Ausf. D (3 in 1) - Ausf. E (3 in 1) - Vorpanzer E (3 in 1) each kit has over 1000 parts. umh ???

Have an older Tristar kit IV D and Road wheel set.

I'm signed up to build a Dragon DAK version 6779 - Pz IV Ausf. D Smart Kit  release last May 2013 - noted several group builders have sign on to build IVs 'D' Tamiya or Dragon kits. Armor86

 


Dan

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, April 13, 2014 4:42 PM

Dan: Are you building that old Dragon super kit?

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  • From: Illinois
Posted by armor86 on Sunday, April 13, 2014 3:19 PM

Yea those were taken outside using mine outdoor photo studio rig, the indoor shots using the work bench lighting gives more yellowish-orange tone color.  Starting the panzer iv - studying references and may do some kit bashing from the tristar pz iv roadwheel set ... which has individual roadwheels separate from rubber tires with different hub caps among other suspension components to mix and match. Armor86

 


Dan

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  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Sunday, April 13, 2014 2:11 PM

That's stunning work Dan. Really love the weathering and chipping.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Sunday, April 13, 2014 11:30 AM

Dan, great finish on this one. Yes

You certainly have the weathering techniques down pat.  Are the brighter photos taken outside?  I prefer those, but the orange hued ones are interesting too, sort of like a setting sun backdrop.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by jibber on Sunday, April 13, 2014 9:16 AM

Looks great Dan, right out of Rommel's North Afrika. Until he was evicted that is.....

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Sunday, April 13, 2014 7:49 AM

Great job, she does look like she's been cruising around the desert! The worn paint esp looks good!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 13, 2014 7:47 AM

Sweet looking build Dan, was a pleasure watching this one, love the weathering effect you have achieved. Great work all round.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, April 13, 2014 5:42 AM

Very impressive work, Dan! The finish and weathering are just perfect!

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Sunday, April 13, 2014 2:02 AM

That's very, very impressive, A86! The filters and washes, the dust, have tied it all together and the paint chipping comes across as very realistic indeed! Bravo!

M/TB379

http://worldinminiature.blogspot.com/

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  • From: Illinois
Posted by armor86 on Sunday, April 13, 2014 1:54 AM

Well got it done - Sd.Kfz.232 - pigment with water & enamel base wash for dust effects - black pen wash, pencils used to show some bare metal on portions around fenders - 6 month project. Took several photos outside with natural light, then took it back inside with lighting. Photos enclosed.

Now I can get started on the latest Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf.D DAK Dragon Smart Kit (6779). Armor86

 


Dan

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Saturday, April 12, 2014 3:52 PM

pyrman64

OOPS! wrong GB! Oops

Big Smile Another member of the club.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by pyrman64 on Saturday, April 12, 2014 3:37 PM

OOPS! wrong GB! Oops

Greg H

"There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell." Gen. Wm T. Sherman (11 April 1880, Columbus, Ohio)

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, April 12, 2014 2:02 PM

Thanks for extending this one, Eric! My Pz.IV is going to take quite some time...

All the resin sets arrived at my LHS yesterday and the Voyager stuff should be here on Monday, so I'll start on the interior next week. I have a few more armor models to complete though, so I can't concentrate on this build only...

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    April 2006
  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:32 PM

Thanks Eric, I'll take whatever amount of extension you can offer.  I can see it being another good month before I can get back to my L6/40.

regards,

Jack

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    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Saturday, April 12, 2014 7:59 AM

Eric: Sounds like a good idea, I hate to see you miss the fun of your own GB!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    November 2003
  • From: Nashville, TN area
Posted by bobbaily on Saturday, April 12, 2014 7:13 AM

Eric-thank you for pushing the end date out-I'm still having trouble getting started-I have a Tamiya SAS Jeep in transit and if you don't mind, I would like to enter it.  Hoping that something small (and hopefully simple/quick) will help me get back in the groove.  I still want to build the Sherman.

Been following everyone's builds-all very impressive.  

Bob

 

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    December 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Saturday, April 12, 2014 3:06 AM

No objections from me either. I am still going to start my build after my current one and hope to be done by the end of June, but nice it have a bit of room to manoeuvre. My Panther is nearly done, but I have given myself a deadline of the end of April to finish the dio. So I will be starting my Pz III not later than May 1st.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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    May 2011
  • From: Illinois
Posted by armor86 on Saturday, April 12, 2014 2:42 AM

Sounds good Eric - Just finish the Rad 8 232 - finally get start with the Dragon 6779 Smart Kit Pz IV Ausf D DAK I signed up for. I likely need the extra.  Armor86

 


Dan

  • Member since
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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:23 AM

Yeah, a little extra time sounds good to me as well.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:03 AM

No objections -- that gives me some elbowroom as well, I might even crank out something extra, beyond the Pz. IV (which I promise I'll get back to soon!)

M/TB379

http://worldinminiature.blogspot.com/

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  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Saturday, April 12, 2014 12:43 AM

If nobody has any objections, I'd like to push the deadline to the end of August. I think I can hit the bench this week and we'll see what we can get done. I have 3 days off in two weeks too. I need to get going. I'm missing the fun.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, April 9, 2014 11:44 AM

Ernest: Very nice work, the thinned out fenders look really good!

I've enjoyed the Italeri Crusader, only issue I've had was kinda funny fit to the front fenders, though I may have messed that up. I just need to add some pastel dust and I should be done, have been putting it off since I'm worried I'll make a mess with it.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, April 9, 2014 8:17 AM

You are really making that old kit shine, Ernest! Very impressive work so far!

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  • From: Illinois
Posted by armor86 on Tuesday, April 8, 2014 8:40 PM

Nice finish Alan with the 222, I will have to review your build notes when I get around to building mine. Noted the interior detail and will leave the crew hatches open.

Ernest - nice looking 265 and Pz 1 B - I have a couple Dragon 265s in the stash ... when I got back into the hobby, the Dragon Panzer I A kit was my first build, I personal found it difficult to paint the lower hull & road wheels after assembling. I now paint the road wheels & etc. before assembling. Armor86

 


Dan

  • Member since
    October 2010
  • From: Rockford, IL
Posted by AlanF on Monday, April 7, 2014 3:03 PM

Thanks everyone for the suggestions.  I ordered the "Introduction to Tasca Sherman M4A1 DV type" with N. African markings. That should be a fun build. I'm also going to pick up a Crusader II if I can find a good price on evil bay. The Stuart might also see a place in my stash!

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