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Posted by Chuck Davis on Friday, May 2, 2014 8:35 AM

Tim - I'm unaware of any special designations given to the modified half-tracks.  There were a bunch of versions, that's for sure.  Sorry.  Remember, I'm just a poor airplane guy - maybe some of the armor experts here can fill in the blanks...

Chuck Davis

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Friday, May 2, 2014 9:31 AM

Chuck Davis

Tim - I'm unaware of any special designations given to the modified half-tracks.  There were a bunch of versions, that's for sure.  Sorry.  Remember, I'm just a poor airplane guy - maybe some of the armor experts here can fill in the blanks...

Hmmm ... So, I'll list it as M2/M3 halftrack in Israeli service, modified with a Daimler turret - sound good?

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Posted by Chuck Davis on Friday, May 2, 2014 10:09 AM

Works for me, sir!  Thanks

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Friday, May 2, 2014 11:45 AM

I'll join too, but I'll have to see what modern armor kits I have in 1/72 scale that fit the theme.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, May 2, 2014 11:50 AM

Tim Kidwell

Chuck Davis

Okay guys - I'm officially changing my entry to a half-track converted with a Daimler armored car turret.  I have the kits on their way.  Here's a photo of my chosen subject from Israeli Half-tracks Vol. One by Tom Gannon:

It should be a fun build - lots to do, and not a lot left of the poor half-track after I'm done...one way or another. Stick out tongue

Thanks!

Chuck, does this bad boy have a designation?

No idea what it is but it's COOL LOOKING and that's all that really matters! Wink

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Posted by jgeratic on Friday, May 2, 2014 3:09 PM

Chuck - that is one very different subject.  Did a quick google, no official name found, probably because it was a one off.  I've found mention that the base is the M5 halftrack, the main turret is Daimler, but the cannon and mantlet is further cobbled from a Humber IV armored car

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P Mitch - it would be cool to see another captured Light Tank Mk. VI as that's what I've been penciled in for.

Here's another pic I've found, though given it's condition, probably wasn't used for much other than a photo op.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Chuck Davis on Friday, May 2, 2014 3:19 PM

Jack - thanks, that's some good info.  I found reference to the M5 part, but not the Humber connection.  Of course, I did not order a Humber in my stack of kits...I'll have to look into that one.

Cool Mk.VI shot, BTW.  Looks kinda like a prototype for a circus clown car act...

Chuck Davis

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Posted by P mitch on Friday, May 2, 2014 3:20 PM

Jack

I have the C version and the plan is just to add an Italian Flag tied on with a bit of rough painting of insignia so I doubt it will be up to the standard of yours

Phil

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Posted by jgeratic on Friday, May 2, 2014 3:25 PM

Chuck Davis

Cool Mk.VI shot, BTW.  Looks kinda like a prototype for a circus clown car act...

lol, no doubt, or perhaps a guiness world record book attempt.  With a crew capacity of three the vehicle here is definitely over loaded. 
regards,
Jack

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Posted by jgeratic on Friday, May 2, 2014 3:32 PM

P mitch

I have the C version and the plan is just to add an Italian Flag tied on with a bit of rough painting of insignia ....

Phil

ooooh,  would you have a photo of the C type that is captured in the desert?  I've never seen one, in fact I've only come across one photo of this particular mark  in North Africa.  

There also might be evidence of a German captured example during the battle of France 1940.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by shivinigh on Friday, May 2, 2014 5:38 PM

found a decal set that some might be interested in. I bought a set for the panzer III and like the colour photos and the decals came in 72, 48, and 35 scale on the same sheet.

http://www.kagero.eu/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=241:039-captured-panzers-german-vehicles-in-allied-service&catid=101&Itemid=705

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by shivinigh on Friday, May 2, 2014 5:40 PM

Jacinth68 was me placing a post.

sorry about this. My roommate was using my comp and was still logged into his account.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Friday, May 2, 2014 8:09 PM

shivinigh

Jacinth68 was me placing a post.

sorry about this. My roommate was using my comp and was still logged into his account.

Shiv, totally OK. No worries.

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Posted by P mitch on Sunday, May 4, 2014 5:33 AM

jgeratic

P mitch

I have the C version and the plan is just to add an Italian Flag tied on with a bit of rough painting of insignia ....

Phil

ooooh,  would you have a photo of the C type that is captured in the desert?  I've never seen one, in fact I've only come across one photo of this particular mark  in North Africa.  

There also might be evidence of a German captured example during the battle of France 1940.

regards,

Jack

Cant see an Italian one anywhere so it could be a "what if" build. I have found a few German captured ones, Have a look at the link in case you don't have any of them

http://beutepanzer.ru/Beutepanzer/uk/mk-VI/mk-vi-1.htm

Phil

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Posted by jgeratic on Sunday, May 4, 2014 12:55 PM

P Mitch - thanks for reminding of the Beutpanzer site.  Interesting, the Germans actually converted several of these into an artillery platform to carry a 10.5cm, and sent them to the Russian front.

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Anyhow, I've the C version in the stash as well.  Out of curiosity, I looked for some info on which units had them in the desert.  Unless you plan a complete Italian paint over, a number of British units identified can found in this very in depth discussion here:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=114&t=174173

Apparently an order was sent out June 2nd 1941 to stop using the light tanks as a replacement for cruiser losses.  They were, instead, to be converted to the AA role.  So this date should give us a more accurate time frame of when they could of been captured.  Jentz is also quoted as stating 13 light tanks as losses before Operation Compass, though some believe this number could be higher.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Klik on Sunday, May 4, 2014 6:28 PM

Whoops, where'd the time go? I've been busy on a commissioned build (my first!) , so this GB will have to sit on my back-burner  until late June, I think.

By the way, it seems Dragon's put out a new M48A3 kit, on preorder on their US site, so I should be able to get one soon.

Klik

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Tuesday, May 6, 2014 9:42 AM

Rob Gronovius

I'll join too, but I'll have to see what modern armor kits I have in 1/72 scale that fit the theme.

Hi Rob,

Just let us know when you've got a kit and markings picked out and we'll get you signed up.

Thanks!

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Tuesday, May 6, 2014 2:29 PM

Good news!

The OAGB ribbon has arrived!

Hope everyone likes it!

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Posted by shivinigh on Tuesday, May 6, 2014 5:26 PM

I like, I like

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by waynec on Tuesday, May 6, 2014 5:31 PM

i just ordered $80 worth of pe for my BM-21. I HAVE NEVER done that for an armor model. so WTH order the pe set for soviet MAZ tank transporter. some days its more money than sense.

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Posted by garzonh on Tuesday, May 6, 2014 6:18 PM

Awesome badge!, now we need to earn it...!!

It seems this is a black belt GB...phew....it is going to be tough...

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Posted by Chuck Davis on Tuesday, May 6, 2014 7:29 PM

Cool badge, guys.  I hope I can earn it.  I got my ship notice for my "kit collection" that I hope to turn into a half track.  I can't wait to get started!

Chuck Davis

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Posted by Eagle90 on Tuesday, May 6, 2014 7:47 PM

Brilliant!  I love it.  Can't wait to get started on my first tank!

Eagle90

 

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Posted by RBaer on Wednesday, May 7, 2014 12:33 PM

Nice ribbon!

I've got a trip to KC in a week or so, planning on dropping in to Hobby Haven and picking up a Tamiya IDF M1 Sherman for the turret to go with my Tamiya M51, so that will get me all the parts I need for the M1 Super Sherman. If not there, Squadron Scalefest is coming up....

I've got a pic somewhere of one of these in Jerusalem, 1967, have to dig it up pretty quick.

Apprentice rivet counter.

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Wednesday, May 7, 2014 12:42 PM

We're glad you like the look.

Wayne - Wow! You live by the motto "Go big or go home!"

Chuck, at the rate that May is flying by, August will be here before we know it.

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Posted by jibber on Wednesday, May 7, 2014 12:46 PM

Very cool Tim, really looking forward to the build and I'm with Wayne on this one, I think I've spent more on this kit than almost any other.

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Posted by deattilio on Thursday, May 8, 2014 10:10 AM

All my gear is on deck and it is now a matter of awaiting the green flag to launch this build.  I don’t plan to go too overboard with this build but we’ll see how the plan plays outs.

I could not pass on posing the future LVT build next to my current LVT build, Italeri’s LVT2 which is receiving the full load out of all the AM resin & PE I could get my grubby little paws on.

 

 

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Thursday, May 8, 2014 1:24 PM

It's gettin' real now.

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Posted by CodyJ on Saturday, May 10, 2014 12:41 AM

Nice looking Badge.  Definitely gonna have fun with this one!

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Posted by waynec on Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:39 PM

Tim Kidwell

It's gettin' real now.

PE arrived today. still haven't decided about AM tires. they usually seem like resources better spent elsewhere. looks like the ENTIRE rocket launcher assy is redone in PE. which means i will have a plastic one to add somewhere else, like a russian KZKT-537L 8x8 truck. i now have enough 122mm rockets. probably scratch build some wood ammo crates, open and closed, and have a friend resin cast some. could load them in the back of the URAL-4320 6X6.

this will be a LIBYAN rebels "unit". yesterday i made 2 sets of hyrocal big rocks and 2 sets of little rocks and have half a container of scree. i will do a variation of these 2 pics. planning on opening doors and hood. this has a really nice engine.

not the same truck but this will be the pattern

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