FineScale Modeler Orphaned Armor Group Build 2014

Uh, I've seen Dredd's Lawgiver recently. Broken and lying by his foot, sad and forgotten.

Tim Kidwell

Uh, I've seen Dredd's Lawgiver recently. Broken and lying by his foot, sad and forgotten.

No thanks to your clumsy ham-fistedness. "Oops. Uh, Dredd's gun came off," says Tim backing out of the office. I wonder how many pieces a resin Conan presents when dropped from the roof of a two-story building?

Aaron Skinner

Tim Kidwell

Uh, I've seen Dredd's Lawgiver recently. Broken and lying by his foot, sad and forgotten.

No thanks to your clumsy ham-fistedness. "Oops. Uh, Dredd's gun came off," says Tim backing out of the office. I wonder how many pieces a resin Conan presents when dropped from the roof of a two-story building?

 

I'll not take the blame. Use stronger glue next time.

We'll probably find out once my wife has had enough of it sitting on my nightstand.

Aaron, since you are expanding into AM parts for the M13/40, have you researched into what, if any changes need to be made for a proper version?  I think the original Tamiya kit was based on the Italeri, and it had some characteristics of the M14/41.  

Anyways, I see Royal Model as an update for the new Tamiya:

regards,

Jack

P mitch

I've already got all the extra's I need for the Hotchkiss, but as its all of 4 inches long I'm not sure how much I can fit on! and the Modelkasten tracks will be loads of fun!!!

Phil

4 inches, I thought this GB was for armour, sounds like your building a pram.

Tim, did I read that right, your not adding AM. Is such a thing possible. Is this some sort of witch craft.

Too bad Merkavas are only used in Israel.

Building OOB? What kind of black magic is that? Burn him for his treachery!

OK did someone tell Dragon about this group build??

www.dragonusaonline.com/item_detail.aspx

Phil

SchattenSpartan

Building OOB? What kind of black magic is that? Burn him for his treachery!

That escalated quickly.

Straying farther from OOB and KISS, I have come across couple photos of Thai AAVs with peculiar tracks that I would like to do on my build.  The photos are of AAVP7A1s but it is not a long bet that the same are applied to any operating LVTP7s.  The problem is I am not sure exactly where or from what these sets of tracks come from and need some assistance from the crowd on how to best replicate this set.  IDing the track would be a great start, they are neither the old diamond tracks, big-foot or T161 track normally used on P7/P7A1s.  They look like the old Panzer and Sherman duck-bills for muddy terrain but I know that is not what the Thais have fastened to their LVTP7s/AAVP7A1s.  Any ideas?

http://4gwar.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/frifo-2-24-2012-thai-marines1.jpg

http://www.c7f.navy.mil/imagery/high-res/2012/02-February/120210-M-ZZ999-007.jpg

Well you know this group. We are like snowballs, get something, roll with it and pick up stuff along the way

Tim Kidwell

SchattenSpartan

Building OOB? What kind of black magic is that? Burn him for his treachery!

That escalated quickly.

"There are ways of building OOB"

deattilio

Straying farther from OOB and KISS, I have come across couple photos of Thai AAVs with peculiar tracks that I would like to do on my build.  The photos are of AAVP7A1s but it is not a long bet that the same are applied to any operating LVTP7s.  The problem is I am not sure exactly where or from what these sets of tracks come from and need some assistance from the crowd on how to best replicate this set.  IDing the track would be a great start, they are neither the old diamond tracks, big-foot or T161 track normally used on P7/P7A1s.  They look like the old Panzer and Sherman duck-bills for muddy terrain but I know that is not what the Thais have fastened to their LVTP7s/AAVP7A1s.  Any ideas?

http://4gwar.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/frifo-2-24-2012-thai-marines1.jpg

http://www.c7f.navy.mil/imagery/high-res/2012/02-February/120210-M-ZZ999-007.jpg

 

Definitely not my area of expertise, but the closest I've seen of track end connectors that might be similar  was over at Shapeways, an online 3D printing outfit.

http://www.shapeways.com/search?q=eec+track+

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According to this site,

http://the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/tracks/vvss_end_connectors.html

many of  the extended end connectors used during WWII were locally made in Europe.  So possibly, the examples in the photos you have linked, could be an 'in house' design?  Hopefully someone else can add more definite answers.

regards,

Jack

garzonh

Too bad Merkavas are only used in Israel.

Yeah, but if you were to build a Centurion in Israeli markings, that would fit right in.

I though we (as in the UK) sold the Centurion to the Israeli's?? But I could be wrong

Phil

P mitch

I though we (as in the UK) sold the Centurion to the Israeli's?? But I could be wrong

Phil

Aaron

Yes your right I'd forgotten then where second hand ones, wonder if the built in kettle got a lot of use in Israeli hands

Phil

P mitch

Aaron

Yes your right I'd forgotten then where second hand ones, wonder if the built in kettle got a lot of use in Israeli hands

Phil

I should hope so. Why spend all that money on a kettle and not use it.

Jack,
     Thanks for the link, got it book marked as a potential if I decide to follow this rabbit hole.

P mitch

OK did someone tell Dragon about this group build??

www.dragonusaonline.com/item_detail.aspx

Phil

If there's an Allied tank in their catalog that was potentially captured and used by the Germans, Dragon has released it with German decals and a sprue containing a German tank cupola or other detail fittings.

Haha, Dragon's been known for doing a kit of almost ANY tank...

Went to my local hobby shop today, could not find a single M48, but did pick up a t-72m1 , with decals included for an Iraqi, Finnish, and East German tank.

I may have to order online. Barring that, I'll go with the T-72 ( regrettably so, for I really want to model the ARVN-turned-NVA M48).

Thoughts? FYI, the T-72 is a Revell 1/72nd kit.

Klik

The 1/72 scale Revell T-72M1 kit more accurately represents either a Polish or Czech T-72G. The issue is because of the coincidence range finder present on the G turret that was deleted when the tank received the laser range finder on the M and additional armor was being added to the area.

Cool. I did not know that. However, if that's the case, does that mean it can't accurately depict an Iraqi tank? If not, what markings would a Czech T-72 have? I do have a few spare Czech roundels from an aircraft kit.

Thanks for the intel. I also managed to order an Israeli Tiran-5, so I might just jump in with both. Still no M 48, though.

Klik

Czech T-72s sometimes had a small roundel on the front of the turret on each side of the main gun. I can't recall offhand if they used 3 digit or 4 digit ID numbers. Do an image search and I am sure you can find out quickly enough

Klik

Cool. I did not know that. However, if that's the case, does that mean it can't accurately depict an Iraqi tank? If not, what markings would a Czech T-72 have? I do have a few spare Czech roundels from an aircraft kit.

Thanks for the intel. I also managed to order an Israeli Tiran-5, so I might just jump in with both. Still no M 48, though.

Klik

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Best Regards

Johan

Tim-

I'll be building a Dragon 1/35th T34/76....just not sure what variant yet.

Thanks

I believe I have figured out what type of track is on the AAVs in the images previously posted.  It was a convoluted rabbit hole but here is how I arrived at the possible answer.

AAV »Thai Marine Corps vehicles » Thai tanks » Stingray » AAV/Bradley roadwheels » M109 » T-136 track!!!

I have ordered a set of T-136 track, and since there are more blocks on the M109 I should have plenty to practice with before committing them to my Thai LVT; next I will order a set of Shapeway’s EEC track.  Below is one of the many Google images I scrutinized through my rabbit hole journey of the Commando Stingray Light Tank.  If it is not T-136 track it surely is close.

 http://www.armyrecognition.com/forum_pic/m45tl.jpg

Hi, please sign me up for doing a Trumpeter 1/35 KV-2 In German Markings.  Thanks!!!

CodyJ - Welcome to the group build!

Bob - I got you updated.

Deattilio - Nice tour of the interwebz. Can't wait to see the track after it's been applied. Very cool stuff.