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  • Member since
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  • From: Phoenix, AZ
Posted by Fly-n-hi on Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:46 PM

So how did the 787 go together?  Was the fit pretty good?

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Posted by jelliott523 on Wednesday, November 26, 2014 10:16 PM

Finally got some work done on the 787.  In the photos, I've dry-fit the horizontal stabilizers and the engines.  The United tail logo is just a photo copy that I have scaled to fit and taped in place to see how it would look.  I've got a little more sanding and priming to do on the nose and engines.  Below are a couple more shots.


On the Bench:  Lots of unfinished projects!  Smile

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Wednesday, November 26, 2014 7:00 PM

I've assembled the engines.  The molded vortex generators looked terrible so I cut them off and made my own replacements out of thin styrene.  Below you can see that I've sanded off the vortex generators from one engine:

Then I attached the scratch built generators:

I've also painted the compressor fan steel and masked it off so that I can paint the inside of the intake and the spinner:

The next step will be to attach the engines to the wings and use Mr Surfacer to fill in the seams where they join the wing.

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:26 AM

Here's a little update with the DC-10.  Since its a -10 it doesn't use the center main landing gear.  So  I installed the part that covers the opening and filled in the panel lines:

This ends up working out really well because one of the wheels came out of the mold with some major distortion and wasn't useable.

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Monday, November 24, 2014 8:24 PM

SubarooMike

Okay, gents!           

        Tonight I laid the final coat a white on my MD-87. I sprayed Testers flat white so to gloss it up I will clear with Future. 

        Tonight I ALSO got to try out my new spray booth!     I must say that I am IMPRESSED!    For a $13 fan unit, it did the job -- and quite well at that!   If you have the money, it would not hurt to buy a more powerful fan; however, for the casual sprayer, this fan seems to do the trickBig Smile    Tonight I set up my paint ship on the kitchen tabled covered with an old sheet (venting the booth out of a window with an insert I made out of foam board).  I sprayed a whole cup of enamel white.  When I was ifnished spraying, there was NO odor in the kitchen at all. No smog cloud lingering over me.       Tomorrow I will roll up a piece of paper , light it on fire, and blow it out. I will video the smoke so you can see how it will suck the smoke right down the fan. 

   NOTE:   I did remove the fan cover as suggested by another member to help improve the air flow (if needed).  Since my fan it on the lower end of the fan spectrum I removed it.   I also caulked around the fan unit to aid in efficiency. 

Cool!  I think I will be trying this.  Not only would it be better for health reasons but it will cut down on the dust that lands on everything.  Looking forward to the vid!

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Posted by SubarooMike on Monday, November 24, 2014 8:08 PM

Okay, gents!           

        Tonight I laid the final coat a white on my MD-87. I sprayed Testers flat white so to gloss it up I will clear with Future. 

        Tonight I ALSO got to try out my new spray booth!     I must say that I am IMPRESSED!    For a $13 fan unit, it did the job -- and quite well at that!   If you have the money, it would not hurt to buy a more powerful fan; however, for the casual sprayer, this fan seems to do the trickBig Smile    Tonight I set up my paint ship on the kitchen tabled covered with an old sheet (venting the booth out of a window with an insert I made out of foam board).  I sprayed a whole cup of enamel white.  When I was ifnished spraying, there was NO odor in the kitchen at all. No smog cloud lingering over me.       Tomorrow I will roll up a piece of paper , light it on fire, and blow it out. I will video the smoke so you can see how it will suck the smoke right down the fan. 

   NOTE:   I did remove the fan cover as suggested by another member to help improve the air flow (if needed).  Since my fan it on the lower end of the fan spectrum I removed it.   I also caulked around the fan unit to aid in efficiency. 

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Posted by lewbud on Monday, November 24, 2014 6:29 PM

Nitto is a Japanese company.  Don't know if they are still around.  I'll post the box art soon.  I'm running the Weekend Madness GB at the moment, and have some previous commitments before I can start this.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Monday, November 24, 2014 8:53 AM

lewbud

Could I join up?  Nitto 1/144 747.  Livery undecided.  I may convert it to a 747SP.

Yeah, there's plenty of room!  Welcome aboard!  I hate to ask but what's "Nitto?"  I don't think I've ever heard that.

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Posted by lewbud on Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:33 PM

Could I join up?  Nitto 1/144 747.  Livery undecided.  I may convert it to a 747SP.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by SubarooMike on Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:02 PM

Fly-n-hi

Yeah, great booth Mike.  I'll be interested to know how it works out, too.  I need to do something like that.

I will definitely fill you guys in!    It looks like we will find out tomorrow eveningBig Smile

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Posted by jelliott523 on Sunday, November 23, 2014 4:47 PM
So, I finally took the leap and tried using Alclad for the first time. I have to say, WOW!!! I was actually impressed at the results. I used a gloss black enamel for the base coat and then used Duraluminum and Airframe Aluminum. The parts I sprayed were the fan sections and the hot sections of the engine on my 787. I'll try to get some pictures of them tonight and get them added. Just a note: this was done AFTER my unfortunate incident with the laquer thinner and the kitchen table.

On the Bench:  Lots of unfinished projects!  Smile

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Sunday, November 23, 2014 1:15 PM

Yeah, great booth Mike.  I'll be interested to know how it works out, too.  I need to do something like that.

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Posted by SubarooMike on Sunday, November 23, 2014 8:20 AM

Thanks B1!            

Steve,  I definitely will do.    I hope the fan is powerful enough -- if not, I can upgrade it eventually

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Posted by B_one fixer on Saturday, November 22, 2014 11:52 PM

thats a pretty sweet booth !

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, November 22, 2014 11:25 PM

That's the exact same idea I had Mike. Let me know how it works for you.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

http://www.spamodeler.com/forum/

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Posted by SubarooMike on Saturday, November 22, 2014 11:11 PM

Okay, my MD-87 is ready for another batch of white.  But before I airbrush again I needed a spray booth but due to school I don't have much modeling funds.      

Here is what I came up with.    Not pictured is the switch, cord, and filter

Plastic tub: $5.97

Bathroom fan: $13.99

Brackets (2): 1.50

12 nuts and bolts (all used): $1.50

Flexible tubing: $8.00 (Victoria bought that for me)

Extension cord:  Already owned.

Switch: $1.97.

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Posted by SubarooMike on Saturday, November 22, 2014 11:04 PM

Fly-n-hi

Wow Mike, the Mosquito cockpit looks really great!  I also like the nav lights.  They look very convincing!

Thanks a lot!  Its a fantastic kit -- well engineered. 

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Posted by jelliott523 on Friday, November 21, 2014 1:02 PM

Just wanted to shout out to let everyone know I was still alive.  It's been a crazy past couple of weeks around 'mi casa'.  I'm just waiting on my decals to arrive from 26decals.  I've got the body of the 787 primed and sanded, had a few ghost seams to take care of as well.  I want to wait until I get the decals before I start painting the colors so I can make a copy of the decals and get the paint lines right.  I'm going to be using Model Master Bright White and Gloss Light Grey for the main areas.  I will be using Alclad for the leading edges, engine components and the ring around the front of the engines.  I may paint the gold strip with metallic gold instead of the decal gold stripe.

On the Bench:  Lots of unfinished projects!  Smile

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Friday, November 21, 2014 9:32 AM

Wow Mike, the Mosquito cockpit looks really great!  I also like the nav lights.  They look very convincing!

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Friday, November 21, 2014 9:30 AM

B_one, that 737 looks fantastic!  I really like the Delta Widget scheme.  They should go back to that.  Nicely done!

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Posted by SubarooMike on Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:34 PM

Looks great B 1 fixer!CoolYes   Excellent edition to the group build for sure

   Until my PPP arrives tomorrow, I can't work on either of my airliners as of now.  Yesterday I did spray the interior (or lack there of) on the Vega and I sprayed the engine. I also drilled out the cowling in preparation for exhaust stacks. 

   I hope this does not break any rules and upset anyone but since I couldn't work on my airliners tonight, I brought out my Tamiya Mossie to tinker with -- so I decided to post of few pictures of her so far for your viewing pleasure.  Tomorrow she will be ready to close up.   I bought her at an RC airplane swap meet last March for $5 still sealed!     Sorry for the bad quality pictures. So much of the detail and color is lost in them. 

  Scratched harnesses in my PT-17. I thought they turned out nice 

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Posted by SubarooMike on Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:26 PM

Fly-n-hi

Mike, I start out with those wet/dry sanding sticks from Squadron.  I Use the course grit for the tough areas and then use the medium grit to soften those areas afterwards.  If I can use the medium grit stick in the first place I'll do that instead.

After everything is filled and sanded I'll use a polishing kit that has the 3200, 3600, 4000, 6000, 8000 and 12,000 sheets to get it really smooth.

Thanks a lot!

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Posted by B_one fixer on Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:18 PM

Thanks MC, Trying to nail the glossy finish was alot more difficult compared to the usual military aircraft I build. but when I do build another airliner it will be a much more enjoyable affair from the lessons learned from this one Big Smile

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:11 PM

Wow, beu-t-ful B!  Yes

I wouldn't have guessed it's been 20 years since you last airliner. I looks like that's your usual subject

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

http://www.spamodeler.com/forum/

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Posted by B_one fixer on Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:07 PM

Nice seam work Fly!

Well here is my entry. I have not built an airliner in over 20 years, so it was a eye opener and I learned alot for the next time I build another airliner.

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Thursday, November 20, 2014 11:26 AM

I forgot to mention that I've cut off the nose gear doors.  The bare metal area on the lower part of the fuselage starts right behind the nose gear so I figure it will be much easier to mask if the doors aren't there.  Also, the doors are very thick...way out of scale.  So I will thin them out a bit before I re attach them.

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 9:47 AM

Mike, I start out with those wet/dry sanding sticks from Squadron.  I Use the course grit for the tough areas and then use the medium grit to soften those areas afterwards.  If I can use the medium grit stick in the first place I'll do that instead.

After everything is filled and sanded I'll use a polishing kit that has the 3200, 3600, 4000, 6000, 8000 and 12,000 sheets to get it really smooth.

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Posted by SubarooMike on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 9:05 PM

Looking good, Fly!   What grit sandpaper do you start off with normally?

Not much going on today, gents. I started and finished scribing the floats.  It only took 1.5 or so hours but it came out beautifully!   I had to primer the floats before scribing.  I sat down a few nights ago to scribe but its turned out with the plastic being white, I could not see a darn thing I was doing!     The picture does not do it justice -- it looks great in person. Nice and straight despite what the picture depicts!

Until my PPP arrives, I cant really do anything else on the MD87 or Vega :(

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Monday, November 17, 2014 10:40 AM

Hey guys, check out page 1 again.  I've added the box art to the roster.  That's what I meant to to in the first place and I just forgot!

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