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Reich Defenders V: Hunters of the Dark

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  • From: Borlando Fla home of the rat
Posted by TREYZX10R on Sunday, February 1, 2015 12:43 PM

TJ thats coming along nicely!

Doug agree there were a lot of 'mistaken' landings! I had Charlie take out all my pine trees (along with the roof and the shop) in 04;(

I got the landing gear and IP sorted

And gave the office a wash

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, February 1, 2015 3:44 PM

Your doing a heck of a job juggling 2 at a time! You know, after 10 years I'll bet you still cringe a little whenever the skys turn stormy!  I know I would.

Doug

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Monday, February 2, 2015 1:33 AM

Trey -- that standard would be impressive enough on one model, but to achieve it on two, back to back, speaks of an ocean of patience. Great work!

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Posted by Rigidrider on Monday, February 2, 2015 7:18 PM

Alright friends... I got some more done over the last few days...

The gloss coat was applied about 2 days ago...

Now we have fun with the decals...

Well that's about all for now, they actually went on fairly well and sucked down pretty good with a few applications of Micro-sol. Next the fun part, Detailing and weathering. By the way, I have looked through every book I have and everywhere I could think to google, and I see virtually no examples of stencils on these aircraft, either odd or I'm not seeing.

Thanks

Doug 

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  • From: Naples, FL
Posted by tempestjohnny on Monday, February 2, 2015 7:32 PM

Very nice.  The green A just adds a splash of color

 

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Wednesday, February 4, 2015 8:17 PM

Thunderbolt thanks for the kind words!

Doug that is one clean looking build,the decals are really making it pop too! Yea I cringe when I hear thunder,the plus is theres nothing left to fling around now! I did get a new man cave outa of it so it was'nt a total loss, but dammit what a long road to recovery!

 

The build progress is plugging along ,the wing test fit is typical DML , good but not great
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Posted by Rigidrider on Thursday, February 5, 2015 5:21 AM

Trey... New man cave? Well I believe everything happens for a reason. We may not understand it at first, but...

Man, every time I see your wip I think I'm seeing double, wait... I am! They are looking good and coming along nicely! My hats off to you, doing 2 at a time!

Take care...

Doug

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  • From: Wisconsin Rapids, WI
Posted by moose421 on Thursday, February 5, 2015 7:39 PM

Rigid

   Looking great. I love the motling.  Your bird is really shaping up.

Trey

   Two at once, that is crazy.  I would loose half the parts and it would be the same ones on both birds.

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  • From: Georgia
Posted by Rigidrider on Friday, February 6, 2015 10:54 AM

Thanks Moose... I'm doing the weathering now ( pics to follow soon ) but I'm not doing washes like I usually do, In the Bf109 build, I tried using chalks (pastels powdered ) to do the panels and hiliting, and I like them. It takes far longer then washes , but I like the end results. Might be done this weekend... take care,

Doug

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Friday, February 6, 2015 2:34 PM

Trey I agree with the cowls just seems much easier to fix the minor gaps without the whole engine nacelles in the way.  I still have 2xC-6 night fighters a C-6 zerstorer a A-6 balloon cutter and the P-1

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, February 7, 2015 7:37 AM

More WIP pics...

I've started on the best part of the build now, ay least my favorite segment, The finish and weathering. I've seen so many beautiful builds over the years that are of "pristine" aircraft which is great if that's your taste, but I have always been in awe of the ones that age and weather their builds. I by no means have all the answers and always strive for a more realistic look. I'm trying something different this time, where I used to use oil or sludge washes, I've been experimenting with pastel pigments (powdered chalks) this time, having seen an absolutely stunning example of this type of weathering in a magazine recently. This is my second attempt and I've already learned a lot from the first but still have much room for improvement.

Decals being complete and well dried now,

Like I usually do, I'll start on the underside if the aircraft since they get far dirtier then the top side usually does. What I'm doing is taking artist pastel chalks and grinding them down on a 1000 to 1200 grit sand paper, then dusting off the sand paper with a stiff bristle brush to create a small mound of chalk dust. I apply with a semi stiff wedge tipped brush, I know these pigments are available from AK and Mig along with other and would likely do better, but I can buy and sand a whole lot of chalk for the price of a container of the AK. If you have the money... Why not use the best? For me this will work just fine.

Starting on the upper surfaces. I'm starting from the back and moving forward hoping to avoid unwanted contact with the surfaces already applied. Until sealed the chalks will smudge and come off if accidently touched before being sealed. That's just another reason I like building on a "Lazy Susan". I can turn and position build without having to touch.

Here the port wing has been done and the starboard is still un treated, to show the difference. One thing about doing this type weathering, It takes way more time to do then a wash does, being the pigment must be brushed ( I use a daubing to apply then a light brushing to blend in)  into every single panel and recessed area one at a time. However, I think I like the subtle effect it produces better.

OK, shes all done here, Now it needs to be sealed with a "Fixant" sold on Amazon of at most good artist supply stores, The fixant applied in a light spray (WARNING, use in well ventilated area or out of doors! VERY strong odor till dried)  this will preserve the pigment from being smudged during handling. I found out by trial and error that unless a very rapid drying thinner is used, the pigment will be absorbed by the top coat and either blend in to the finish or greatly lighten the effect, A fixant will protect the pigment even during a top coat  application.

Just one more, I even applied some pigment to the flame dampners to make then look a bit more discolored and rusty. The smudging and paint above the dampners isn't sloppy painting ( Huh? ) I was trting to maybe show some last minute pre flight inspection where panels were opened by dirty oily hands and hastily closed and wiped off. time and time again.

Well guys, that's all for now , and Please forgive if I got a bit long winded. As always I appreciate any tips hints or comments passed along and that is what I was trying to do. Thanks all...Shes nearing completion now, and after another commitment, I'd like to do another Night Hunter if you'll have me and as time allows.

Thanks

Doug

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, February 7, 2015 7:47 AM

Sorry... Left out the view of the underside...

Thanks again...

Doug 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Saturday, February 7, 2015 7:49 AM

Doug -- superb workmanship, and I'm ALWAYS happy to have you aboard! I hope you can build another bird later in the year for RD V! This one is an absolute visual treat!

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Posted by BrandonK on Saturday, February 7, 2015 11:13 AM

Doug, you killed it!!!!! Very nicely done Sir. Bow Down

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Saturday, February 7, 2015 3:36 PM

Doug. Perfect. The weathering and distressing is right on

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, February 8, 2015 7:31 AM

Well Thank you again... Got some of the finishing touches done yesterday in between viewing the Walking Dead mid-season kick off marathon. (Great show) lol... With any luck, I should have completed photos tonight or tomorrow... That being said, heres where I stand now,

That's all for now... Have a great Sunday! More in a bit...

Doug 

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Sunday, February 8, 2015 1:23 PM

Got some bench time to get a bit done

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Sunday, February 8, 2015 4:50 PM

RR - I'm in awe! That antenna wire is perfect, and the overall effect is top notch!

TJ -- getting there, this'll be a beauty as well!

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, February 8, 2015 5:21 PM

Mike , Thank you sir! TJ, very nicely done, the shading you've done will produce some excellent shading on the top coat. Looking good!

Doug

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Sunday, February 8, 2015 7:57 PM

Doug thats really looking sharp! The paint work and weathering you're doing look authentic!I love the aerial wires what did you use? Looking forward to seeing more pics! The one pine tree I did'nt take down took out the roof on the house and my shop aka'Man cave' so new ones on both accounts,yea geuss you're right everything does happen for a reason.

TJ nice progress ,preshade looks spot on!

 

Not much done this weekend ,Seams filled and filed and panel lines reinstated( I so hate rescribing panel lines!)
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Posted by silentbob33 on Sunday, February 8, 2015 8:00 PM

There's a lot of great work going on here!  Doug, I know it's been said already, but your antenna wire looks fantastic

On my bench: Academy 1/35 UH-60L Black Hawk

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Monday, February 9, 2015 6:07 PM

IP's in place I'll start working on the canopies next

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Posted by Rigidrider on Monday, February 9, 2015 6:24 PM

Trey... Holy stuff! Your just busting them out! And both are equally well done and look great!

The antenna wire is the fine dark EZ line, since I cant grasp the technique of stretched sprue. I'd probably use EZ line any way... Its as its name implies... EZ! LOL...

Bob , thanks To make the little joiners and connectors I just apply some white glue to the area desired and when the glue sets up just a touch of brass paint (I use Testors enamel) and you have a fairly acceptable "T" connector or a splice. Simple as that! On larger scale kits I might take some small (.040) size round stock and just a touch of CA to hold the EZ line and paint, again a pretty convincing connector, "T" or splice connector.

Doug

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Posted by Ret.Ranger on Monday, February 9, 2015 7:35 PM

Could someone please set me straight?  I have recently returned to the hobby, it's been several years since I was building models. Here is where I'm corn-fuzed, the oleos and main gear are attached prior to painting.  Please I'm sure this is a really stupid question. But how do you detail the main gear and wells after painting? Did I miss something in his build? Maybe there is a link or something I could read in the name of time.

Mike

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Posted by BrandonK on Tuesday, February 10, 2015 9:11 AM

Ret.Ranger

Could someone please set me straight?  I have recently returned to the hobby, it's been several years since I was building models. Here is where I'm corn-fuzed, the oleos and main gear are attached prior to painting.  Please I'm sure this is a really stupid question. But how do you detail the main gear and wells after painting? Did I miss something in his build? Maybe there is a link or something I could read in the name of time.

Mike

JTF-6 Ret.

Well, that's a question with 1000 answers. Here's what I do. I paint the bays before I paint the bird. I use silly putty to fill the bay during the main painting process, then remove it and detail out the bay. I then add the gear and such. Some kits allow this process; others not so much. You just gotta figure out a process that works best for your building style. Silly putty is cheap, won't stick or lift paint and will go anywhere you want it. It also makes perfect mask for painting camo schemes. Once it's been used a few times you can toss it and buy more, it's just stupid cheap. Other builders use other methods. Hope this helps.

On the bench:

A lot !! And I mean A LOT!!

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Posted by Rigidrider on Tuesday, February 10, 2015 1:55 PM

Hey Ranger...  as was said already, a question with a thousand answers, like Brandon, I do the gear and wells pre-paint, then fill the wells with tissue then just use a shield ( like the fake credit cards you get injunk mail) to mask or shield the pasrts already painted and detailed. Alot of the time I rarely mask a pit during paint.

Glad to have you back in the hobby!

Take care

Doug

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Posted by moose421 on Tuesday, February 10, 2015 3:23 PM

I am doing my landing gear after I get most of the painting done.  I first sprayed the interior of the gear wells then stuffed paper towel into the well.  Wheels will be done last.

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Posted by moose421 on Tuesday, February 10, 2015 3:36 PM

Here is some updates of my Bf 110 G-4.  Finally getting some bench time in.  That and an extra day off helps.

First up is the first upper coat of RLM 76 with pre-shading done.  The second is the underside showing of the black on just one wing.

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I masked of to get the hard line that carried the RLM 76 on the leading edge of the wing.

Next up is showing the masking I did to get the upper camo.  I latter went back and gave it a soft edge.  Easier said than done.  I managed to mess it up and have to redo some of the RLM 75.

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Finally we have the camo with molting done.  I am happy with how she is turning out.  This is my first serious aircraft build.  I am use to armor.  How some of you guys build such kicking 1/72 amazes me.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Tuesday, February 10, 2015 5:41 PM

Moose... I like that camo pattern, What colors did you use? The darker looks like sand gelb, But cant ID the lighter shade. I know you said 76, but unless color is off a bit... Or maybe I'm just not seeing it. I like it!

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