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2015 Messerschmitt Bf 109 Group Build

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  • Member since
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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Thursday, November 27, 2014 3:20 PM

Its a tough choice between the 2nd and 3rd. I think the 3rd one just scraps it.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, November 27, 2014 1:27 PM

Ok guys. I had a little chat with Joe about the mugs and how we're gonna do it basically depends on what you guys want.

We got three mug designs for you lot to choose from:

The first one is Jack's GB badge:

The second one also comes from Jack and it's a simplified design of the badge that might be more suitable for a mug:

And as a third option we have my approach of the whole mug idea:

  

So which one of those would you guys prefer? I don't really like the idea of having more than one official mug design for this GB and I don't think Joe would like it either, so if we could narrow it down to one of them that would be great.
If you choose one of Jack's designs, I'd simply post it on the front page for everyone to dowload and send to your favorite printing service.
In case you prefer my design, I'd send everyone of you (as well as everyone joining us in the future) a PM with your own mug design including your name below the Emil.

 

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  • From: Houston, Texas
Posted by panzerpilot on Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:47 AM

SchattenSpartan

I actually don't think the Eduard Gustavs are overscale. Everything seems to be sized about right with the wings simply being too long.

Dimensional issues aside (and I personally never would've noticed the oversized wingspan) the kit looks great. I didn't start on mine yet (gonna have to wait for this GB to kick off), but the amount of details Eduard packed into those kits is simply stunning. Especially the surface details look amazing. There's also plenty of options, including the tall tail and Erla canopy.

I know there are modellers who regard the long wings as too much of an issue and I completely understand and respect that, but I only really mind dimensional issues if I notice them without holding a ruler next to my models...

Glad to hear. Thanks.
I read up on this a bit. The wings are about a scale foot too long, apparently. Like you said, who's gonna notice? I guess it depends on ones personal opinion and taste. I ordered the royal class G-6 nonetheless, as the other details are pretty well done. Perhaps I'll wade into it later in the GB.

-Tom

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, November 26, 2014 8:40 AM

I actually don't think the Eduard Gustavs are overscale. Everything seems to be sized about right with the wings simply being too long.

Dimensional issues aside (and I personally never would've noticed the oversized wingspan) the kit looks great. I didn't start on mine yet (gonna have to wait for this GB to kick off), but the amount of details Eduard packed into those kits is simply stunning. Especially the surface details look amazing. There's also plenty of options, including the tall tail and Erla canopy.

I know there are modellers who regard the long wings as too much of an issue and I completely understand and respect that, but I only really mind dimensional issues if I notice them without holding a ruler next to my models...

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Posted by Raven728 on Tuesday, November 25, 2014 6:57 PM

Nice link, JR. I must've watched that movie a hundred times when I was a kid. "You'll be in a barrel if you don't watch out for those fighters!"

Welcome back, Johan. Best wishes for your good health.

- Steve

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  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Monday, November 24, 2014 10:40 PM

Hey Johan, glad to see you here, and hope for a quick recovery.

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I've seen some completed builds of Eduard's Gustav - they really do look great.  Only construction problems might be if you want to add after market products/ decals that are dedicated to 1/48, they might not fit or look right?

regards,

Jack

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  • From: Houston, Texas
Posted by panzerpilot on Monday, November 24, 2014 9:18 PM

JohanT.

Glad you're better. I look forward to seeing your eduard builds. I've heard mixed reviews on the g and it will be nice to see if they're decent. I wouldnt mind branching off my usual 1/32 to do a 1/48, er 1/47!

-Tom

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, November 24, 2014 2:49 PM

Ok, now I get it. I'll correct your entries at once! Wink

I have to say, those Merlin powered Emils look really sexy!

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  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Monday, November 24, 2014 1:41 PM

Hi Schatten Spartan,

I will do the one of the Royal Class E's out of box, and the infamous 1/47 G in parallel.

Happy to pass on the IP to anyone who can make it justice FOC, PM me out of this thread.

You do not get the mug though :)

Very Best Regards

Johan

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, November 24, 2014 12:52 PM

Now that's something, would be great if they could put the correct engines in these, maybe use the Merlin's as spares for the flying spits. So if this guys got given all those 109's for his work in the movie, where are the rest.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: MOAB, UTAH
Posted by JOE RIX on Monday, November 24, 2014 12:45 PM

Not sure if any of you have seen this but, it is really fascinating. Anyone choosing to build one of these Spanish versions. Enjoy:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2846976/Stars-skies-Collection-six-Messerschmitts-appeared-1969-film-Battle-Britain-sold-4million-sitting-hanger-decades.html

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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    November 2007
  • From: Wisconsin Rapids, WI
Posted by moose421 on Monday, November 24, 2014 12:35 PM

Thanks for adding me.  My Academy kit is 1/48.  Thinking of doing one of the all black schemes.  It just looks cool.  

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, November 24, 2014 12:10 PM

It's nice to have you aboard, Johan! Let me join all the other guys in wishing you a speedy recovery! Just to make sure: You are building the IP supplied with the Royal Class and one of the Emils from that box?

moose: I got you added to the build roster. What scale is that Academy kit?

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  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Monday, November 24, 2014 12:00 PM

Thank You guys :)
Much appreciated!

Looking forward to this with a lot of anticipation already  Stick out tongue

Very Best Regards
Johan 

  • Member since
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  • From: Wisconsin Rapids, WI
Posted by moose421 on Sunday, November 23, 2014 8:16 PM

Even though I just joined I wish you a speedy and full recovery.

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  • From: Corpus Christi, Tx
Posted by mustang1989 on Sunday, November 23, 2014 5:01 PM

JohanT

Hi mustang 1989, Hi Schatten Spartan,

My eyesight is slowly recovering after the accident and I would like to give this one a try :)

Could you please enter me with Eduard's Royal Class 1/48.

I think this might be of interst to you, The box contains a dashboard in 1/4 and 2 BF109's.

I will do my best to make it justice.

In parallel I will be doing Eduard's brilliant 1/47 BF109.

Very Best Regards

Johan

Well your dang right we can Johan! This is going to be awesome! I'll get with Clemens and get him to get you on the roster right away. I wish you a speedy recovery and it's good to see you around building man, Joe

 Now if I can only find Clemens..................................................

                   

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, November 23, 2014 1:23 PM

That's good new Johan and I am sure everyone will join me in wishing you a speedy full recovery.

I managed to get one of those IP's as they were sold separately and it looks really nice. In fact it was a toss up between that and the engine for this GB. I just wish I could get one of those damn mugs.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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    April 2005
  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Sunday, November 23, 2014 1:15 PM

Bish my friend,

Yeah - bad one; but getting there :)

Have the Ju87 just in front of me right now...happy that I can still make that within time!

Thank You!

Very Best Regards

Johan

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, November 23, 2014 1:09 PM

Johan, good to see you back. I hadn't realised you had had an accident and was wondering where you had gone. I hope your still planning on doing your Ju 87 build, I have extended that GB by a few months.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

  • Member since
    April 2005
  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Sunday, November 23, 2014 1:06 PM

Hi mustang 1989, Hi Schatten Spartan,

My eyesight is slowly recovering after the accident and I would like to give this one a try :)

Could you please enter me with Eduard's Royal Class 1/48.

I think this might be of interst to you, The box contains a dashboard in 1/4 and 2 BF109's.

I will do my best to make it justice.

In parallel I will be doing Eduard's brilliant 1/47 BF109.

Very Best Regards

Johan

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    April 2013
Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, November 23, 2014 1:03 PM

Thanks guys! That link really helped me out, Tom!

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  • From: Houston, Texas
Posted by panzerpilot on Sunday, November 23, 2014 12:47 PM
SS. I found it on ebay. 1/48 for $8 http://m.ebay.com/itm/151482329858?nav=SEARCH

-Tom

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  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Sunday, November 23, 2014 12:32 PM

Oh, it's 1/48 you want, try Third Group Decal:

regards,

Jack

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, November 23, 2014 12:15 PM

I suppose the unit emblems were the same size on most aircraft? I highly doubt it's possible to cut something that small as a mask in 1/48 but I do have a few Udet emblems left from one of my 190 kits...

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  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:53 AM

Couldn't find a specific sheet for Wilcke, but the markings look pretty much textbook.  You could find some generic sheets and cobble them together for what you need, probably even in mask form, except for maybe the JG3 "Udet" emblem.

Possibly Alliance Model Works?

Kitsworld:

regards,

Jack

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:40 AM

Thanks, Jack! There's some very good stuff on that website indeed!

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  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:33 AM

I find the IL2 game skins site has all kinds info, specially if it's an aircraft belonging to an ace.

Try this link for Wilcke:

http://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Bf-109G/JG3-Wilcke.html

Haven't looked for decals yet, will let you know.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:06 AM

Does anyone of you guys have any pictures or color profiles of Wolf-Dietrich Wilcke's G-2? I looked everywhere and there doesn't seem to be a decal sheet for that aircraft, so I'll have a look if I can get me some vinyl masks cut for it.

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:02 AM

Tucohoward

Sorry brother, the only G-2 decals I have are for "Double Black Chevron" flown by Hauptmann Steinhoff of II./JG52. Interesting scheme IMHO. Doesn't seem to be a lot out there for the G-2.

Jay

SchattenSpartan

Tucohoward

Nice choice, Joe. I am looking forward to it. If anyone else is looking for decals, please let me know. I would be happy to donate them to a good cause.

Jay

Thanks for that generous offer, Jay!
If you happen to have decals for Marseille's or Wilcke's G-2 I'd be really interested in those, but only ifyou really don't plan on using them...

No worries.

I know what you mean about not having a whole lot of G-2 decals to choose from. There's plenty of stuff for later Gustavs and Friedrichs, but I didn't have any luck with G-2 ones so far...

  • Member since
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  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Saturday, November 22, 2014 11:01 AM

Clemens,

Right, now I see what you mean by a simplified design for the mugs.  For sure, those Royal boxtop artwork created by Eduard are quite eye catching. 

I like the idea of the personalized mug that includes the participant's name, and the other side contains the pilot's name of the the aircraft they have built.  I'm neutral, though, to the group's decision on a mug design, as I wasn't planning on having one made - besides which I already have an Eduard tin mug Big Smile

regards,

Jack

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