1945 GB

That looks like a challenge, Panzer, beautifully done.

That's coming on nicely Panzer, that suspension looks a little tricky.

Bish

That's coming on nicely Panzer, that suspension looks a little tricky.

thanks Bish!

Hey, when am I going to be on the roster???

Got the tracks on it now!

PANZERJAGER

Sorry PJ, I know SP has been a bit busy, i'll he may have missed you post, i'll drop him a line.

My apologies Panzerjager, I thought that I had already put you on the roster. I will take care of that in the morning when I have a computer, and am not using my phone like I am currently. Sorry 'bout that says I...

AndrewW

That looks like a challenge, Panzer, beautifully done.

sorry I missed your comment there Andrew, thanks.

The suspension is such a sloppy fit, I am going to have to fit it to a base to hide the uneven suspension.

Bish

Sorry PJ, I know SP has been a bit busy, i'll he may have missed you post, i'll drop him a line.

no worries...

stikpusher

My apologies Panzerjager, I thought that I had already put you on the roster. I will take care of that in the morning when I have a computer, and am not using my phone like I am currently. Sorry 'bout that says I...

no problem man!

OK Panzerjager, your kits have been added to the roster. Once again, my apologies for not adding these sooner.

stikpusher

OK Panzerjager, your kits have been added to the roster. Once again, my apologies for not adding these sooner.

Kits?

I didn't realize I was getting credit for the T28 here as well...........

Eh, Thanks Stik!

Well, for those that haven't seen her yet, I'll place a copy of my last post of my T28/T95 build here right now.;

Better late than never!

got to finish the base and do pastels, but here you go!;

PANZERJAGER

Hey all, sorry I've been away for awhile. I do not have time to start my DUKW yet so I am gonna jump in with Lindbergs USS Missouri in 1/900 scale. First ship kit but it looks simple enough. I just need some simple kits as a stress relief and break from school so here goes ...

Finally, the time has come to call this one DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PANZERJAGER

Its big, its beautiful!!

Not seen a ship in that scale before, look forward to seeing that Josh.

That's one beast there panzer. Really nice, and I do like that base.

Thanks to everyone for the high praise!

Sorry for the poor quality pics though.  My phone was acting up last night.

here are some better pictures;

PANZERJAGER

So I've gotten to the point where I'm almost ready to paint. 

My question is...should the deck be painted tan like wood? As in this picture below

Or dark grey/blue such as the diagram below... NOTE, I realize the picture above is post-war, I just don't know if that deck would be camouflaged during the war or not.

Josiah, I am far from being a ship expert, I know guys like CMK will be of more help, but it would make more sense to me for it to have ben painted.

That's some quick work there, how did it go together.

Thanks for the new pics panzer, it does look really nice, and that base does come out better now.

ygmodeler4

My question is...should the deck be painted tan like wood? As in this picture below

Or dark grey/blue such as the diagram below... NOTE, I realize the picture above is post-war, I just don't know if that deck would be camouflaged during the war or not.

You should use the bottom picture. 

Take a look at this link as all camo colors changed in early 45.

Ship camouflage 1941 - 1945

USS Missouri MS 22

Steve

EDIT: The camo changed for just about everything in 45 except for the Old Ladies. They stayed dressed in MS 21.

Thanks Bish and Steve.

Bish, it's an old kit and the details, flash, and instructions show it. I Have a picture of the parts I'll post when I get home to my computer.

I remember reading somewhere that decks were painted/stained up until immediately before the surrender ceremony in Tokyo Bay. The decks were scoured clean to bare wood in preparation for the ceremony.

stikpusher

I remember reading somewhere that decks were painted/stained up until immediately before the surrender ceremony in Tokyo Bay. The decks were scoured clean to bare wood in preparation for the ceremony.

Looks like even then They were dark grey.
 

Ok, now I gotta ask, is that original color photo or somebody's computer colorized altered photo? The hue of the water leads me to think the latter...

This film is interesting, tho how much it was restored can be questioned.  Still, if it really was a color film, maybe there is a case for the painted deck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5MMVd5XOK8

Gary

Was just looking at that film.  I'd say coloured deck, but what is actually meant by restored film - cleaned up or did they add colour?  Other colour photo searches also show up with a painted deck.

regards,

Jack

Panzerjager - awesome job on that heavy tank!

regards,

Jack

PJ: a lovely build of an incredibly ugly tank.

The Kosco film is pretty well known and it's the real deal - I think the deck blue comes through pretty clearly. Color film was costly during WWII but the American stuff that was available to some journalists was state of the art - this was the era of Gone with the Wind. My guess is that the crew gave the deck either a really good scrub or maybe a repaint. The ship itself was a wreck. The USN by mid-44 had so much support in the form of ships (almost a third fleet) and artificial harbors like Manus that our warships could stay on station for extreme lengths. That meant that the class of 44-45 was beaten up properly. Color (real) films from the wonderful show The Color of War shows how untidy warships were late in the war. Here's MO waiting for MacArthur and his Japanese guest:

After some serious interference from the real world - especially breaking in a spanking new desktop - have slowed things. I finally finished a build log on the M8 in the armor section. Because of criticism here I took all new photos - so let's see proper stowage without missing handles:

With an OD on the inside turret:

This was a very hard kit to photograph, but I've got some now that don't show serious bleeding, although the sky high number of earth tone colors sprinkled about is going to stress even a good camera, especially when operated by a lame camera jockey. I think this is ok. (But no perfect. I took all photos in macro mode. When I sit in my chair and look at the M8 on it's temporary place of honor, the whitewash appears more prominent than in any of the photos. No wonder Newton spent so much time on optics.)

Up next is either a JS1/2 - the most lethal looking vehicle in history - or the spanking new Tamiya Jagdpanzer IV/70V Lang. It's kind of ugly too.

Sorry I've been negligent about checking in here.  I'm kind of stuck on a Stuka right now, trying to finish that up, before I start on CV-38.

Noticed your question on Missouri's deck, Josiah.  I think I'd go with 20-B Deck Blue.  WEM used to make it, but Testors MM has their own version (called "weather deck blue," I think).

In his memoirs, Halsey claims he had the crew holy stone the decks down to the wood.  Photo evidence (like modelcrazy posted) doesn't bear this out.  Could be Halsey had a memory lapse when he wrote his memoirs.  

You can check out this too:

www.owensarchive.com/general-douglas-macarthur-during-japanese-surrender-4079

Shows MacArthur and the Allies standing on a definitely blue surface.

I found Halsey's claim quoted in the book The United States Navy in World War II (by S.E. Smith).

The Snyder & Short website  modelcrazy referenced is a good source for information.  I rely on it pretty heavily, although it won't answer all questions--especially about the specific way a measure was applied to a specific ship.  For that, ya gotta look up pictures.

Good luck, and fair sailing.

Holy Cow Guys.... Let me catch up here!!! Been a little busy on the home front lately with spring coming on and all, yard needs cleaning and several other building projects (home related) up coming and all...

PJ... Mustang looking good, did I understand you to say you will have a couple others to go with this one?  That would look cool all together.

Panzer... WOW, Not being too much into armor, I've never seen a tank like that one! Very low profile and very mean looking! Great finish!

Josiah, What better representative of the end  for the AXIS but the Mighty Mo? Great choice, looking forward to paint.

Eric.... Now that is one war weary looking M8... I love it! Very nicely detailed and weathered.

Hope I didn't forget anyone, if so please forgive , it was not intentional. I'm loving this build , watching all the many different projects coming together... Having said that , Here is some more of my contribution to 1945...

The frame is fully assy. here,

Just a quick shot of the underside.

Starting to get some of the paint done, I took some of the decals from Airscale (placards) and put on the radiator and cap to dress up a bit.

I'm using Tamiya NATO black for the frame and Testors gloss black for hilites.

Engine installed and partially wired, amd plumbed.

And lastly, starting to assy the body panels and fenders. This kit was not molded as a solid body unit and it needs a bit of fitting and fiddling to get the pieces to line up and fit properly. Well, any way, that's all for now... I'll start priming and painting soon. I intend to use Auto-color brand automotive paint to do the burgundy exterior color.

Take care all...

Doug

Rigi, I am not a car guy, but it looks to me like you are off to a great start!

CMK, thanks for digging up that tidbit about the decks and attributing them to Halsey's memoirs. Makes you wonder when he says one thing and photos say something else.

I did come across these official US Military color photos taken at the surrender ceremony.

perhaps its just the quality of the reprint, but when you compare the photo below to the ones above and look at the colors of uniforms and skin tones, and especially the water in the background, you can see why it appears to my eye to be computer colorized and not original color film from WWII...