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Posted by jgeratic on Friday, May 6, 2016 12:21 AM

PJ, great to see another Japanese subect here, and good job making the interior appear much busier over the origninal kit.

Bish, that PE choice seriously dresses up the interior.

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Thanks again guys, can see the light at the end of the tunnel now.  This evening started on some rigging.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, May 5, 2016 3:50 PM

Thanks guys, ye, that PE set is really something isn't it. I had been thinking about getting a 1/32nd Ju 188 conversion. Its not cheap, but if this set is anything to go by, it will be well worth it.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, May 5, 2016 3:39 PM

That is some striking PE Bish.

Steve

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Posted by bsyamato on Thursday, May 5, 2016 3:32 PM

Great choice Bish , I have one started some year ago . 

Nice to see an office so filled of details :)

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, May 5, 2016 3:29 PM

You have done a really good job with it.

I am hoping so. The large hatch on the left wil be open, even though it under the wing, you should still be able to see in there. Most of the front is visible without the canopy on, so it wil all depend on how clear the squadron one is.

There are 2 PE sets, one inside and one out. The outside one include a trolley, bt i already have a resin one for that. I visit the site often but never notice dthis. I was loking at some of their 32nd Ju 88 conversions a while back, a mate at the model club really recomendd them. I just happened to check out the 72nd stuff and there this was.

This is the page with the stuff on. The built model includes the Goffy resin sets, unfortunatly they are no longer around.

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg111/Bish_012/Do%2024/6_zps9yksdmrw.jpg

He is based in Europe, i found the service really good, i can't imagine postage will be a lot to the US for flat PE.

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On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, May 5, 2016 3:21 PM

Thanks Bish. The damage is barely visible but I tried my best at repairing it.

Anyway, that is insane details with your pe set. That looks fantastic. Will some of the details be visible once you close her in?

I have this kit too and wouldn't mind getting that pe set.

 GIFMaker.org_jy_Ayj_O

 

 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, May 5, 2016 2:30 PM

Got a start made on the Do 24.

I am adding a few extras including 2 PE sets from AIMS. I stumbeled across this at the last minute and its really nice, even if the instrcutions take a bit of studying to figure out. I also have some resin exhausts and AM decals from Print Scale and vac canopies from Squadron.

So first thing to tackle was to fit the PE to the inside.

And put the PE pit together. The compatment behind the PE includes the radio's and what i guess is the navigators position. The PE instructions include a suggestion for a set of resin radio's from Aber. Forunatly i could still get these as i think this set is a few years old as it mentions useing the Goffy resin engine set.

I will add seatbelts to the rear compartment but not the pit as i plan on adding seated crew figures.

I am assuming the book shelve like item is for maps, code books. before i seal up, i hope to find something to go in there.

After a coat of primer and some paint, weathering was kept like with Flory washes and dry brushing.

And thats all for now.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, May 5, 2016 2:20 PM

PJ, some really nice detail going in there. You did a good job on the damage to the canopy because i can't make it out at all.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by scottrc on Thursday, May 5, 2016 2:19 PM

Hi everyone, just checking in.  Not much done over the past few weeks.  Too much work, taking a class, gardening going on.  Hope to get back at it in the next few days.

Scott

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Posted by bsyamato on Wednesday, May 4, 2016 11:51 AM

Insane level of detail on the venturi tube Jack Indifferent

 

Nice to see another Jake Plasticjunkie :) well done till now

I'll back soon with my Jake, last week closed about seven kits that was about 90% finished , so lots of space on the work table :)

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, May 4, 2016 10:27 AM

Thanks BK. I did a litle more work on the little guy. I took some plastic strip and cut them for interior ribs.

They were glued to the sides

Then I sliced up some plastic stock into small boxes and glued them on to the pit sides. Now the pit has some details that will pop with some washes. Looks better than before.

I still have to add the IP and some seat belts and a few other details but it's shaping up and looking a little busier than before.

The canopy has a damaged edge where it attached to the clear sprue. I attempted to sand and polish the damaged spot then gave it some Future which did help in hiding the damage. Like I said before, once the canopy goes on, most of the pit details will be very hard to see.

I also got the wings and pontoons assembled and cleaned up.

That's it for now. 

 

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Posted by BrandonK on Tuesday, May 3, 2016 7:04 PM

Well PJ, that's gonna be a show stopper I think. Great start with the added details.

BK

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, May 3, 2016 5:47 PM

bsyamato

LOL I have the same kit that I picked up at a model show 6 years ago for $1. I started on mine and thought about adding some pit details but after the canopies go on I think most if not all details will be hidden by the thick clear plastic.

Jack

Amazing work on your model. It looks simply awesome.

Well here is my entry and the obligatory picture of the box.

I used the back side of a #11 blade to deepen the flap, wingfold and aileron lines.

I also used my razor saw to separate the open cowl flaps.

I have this small pe fret to improve the radio antennas.

I'm still playing around with the pit details so that's about all for now.  

 GIFMaker.org_jy_Ayj_O

 

 

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Posted by jgeratic on Tuesday, May 3, 2016 5:22 PM

Another update on the Hanriot, firstly the scratch build of the venturi tube:

1. - Material is Tamiya's quick two part epoxy putty, rolled into tapered shapes.  It cures in 6 hours, but left it over night, and made three pieces just in case.

2. - The thinner ends of each piece is used to make the tube, simple  cut, then sanded the mating sides flat.  The outer ends were also hollowed out slightly.

3. - Glued in place atop the main wing.

Decals - fuselage  graphics were taken from an illustration.  They were printed out in black ink onto clear decal film.  The white on the belly of the martlet bird was hand painted afterwards. 

The French tricolor on the rudder is from the kit provided decal.  I did scan the serial number and corrected it to the proper one for this aircraft.  (kit # was 241, I changed it to 228).

I hadn't intended to, but ended up giving the aluminum panelling the machined look by stippling the paint with a brush after it already had a finish like the cowl - (tried to fix a blemish on the forward panels and that just made it worse).

regards,

Jack

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Posted by BrandonK on Thursday, April 28, 2016 9:21 AM

jgeratic

Hi bsyamato, I like your choice of subject, and solid start.  Also, thanks for your comments on the Hanriot.

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Thank you BrandonK.  I used silver on the ribs to try and replicate what is happening in this photo:

Not sure if it just highlight created from the sun, or if the rib tapes are of a brighter colour.  Might have to do a repaint of the wings - so much for avoiding the tedious job of masking all those ribs.

regards,

Jack

 

I agree with Steve. Looking at the tonal variations of those ribs across the whole the wings I don't see any change, and we should. I would say that the tape is a lighter color and not the sun causing a variation. But, that's just my interpretation of the photo. You have more experience with this than me and you gotta do whay you think is best. Either way, the bird is simply outstanding. 

BK

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, April 28, 2016 7:23 AM
When I look at photo references for a build, I find the more I stair and study, the more work I'm in for.

Steve

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, April 27, 2016 11:29 PM

Steve, thanks for that,  I think you could very well be correct on the rib tapes. 

Staring further at the photo, I see a venturi tube needs to be scratch built, and there seems to be some sort of prominant (anti-skid?) section on the wing section beside the cockpit.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, April 27, 2016 1:25 PM

Jack,

It looks like a different color tape since the variation doesn’t change in the shadows.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, April 27, 2016 1:16 PM

Hi bsyamato, I like your choice of subject, and solid start.  Also, thanks for your comments on the Hanriot.

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Thank you BrandonK.  I used silver on the ribs to try and replicate what is happening in this photo:

Not sure if it just highlight created from the sun, or if the rib tapes are of a brighter colour.  Might have to do a repaint of the wings - so much for avoiding the tedious job of masking all those ribs.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by BrandonK on Wednesday, April 27, 2016 9:19 AM

Jack, that engine looks really good. I do agree that an oiling up will help it look more complete and realistic. Those wings look fantastic also, not sure what the silver will do to enhance that but you've amazed me so fat, carry on.

BK

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Posted by BrandonK on Wednesday, April 27, 2016 9:17 AM

bsyamato

Good works guys Yes

Excelent Jack, i like the little Hanriot :)

 

Heres my entry for now , i'll try to add the ar-196 too later 

 

Hasegawa Aichi E13a1 Jake

 

 

 

 

 

Good kit but poor details, works started last night:

Starting from cockpit to adjust the wrong single level floor of the kit

 

some cut and the rear cowling in opened version (closed version included in the kit)

 

 

Cleaned fuselages and start to add structures

 

 

Wings glued after removed antennas and pitot. Also drilled holes for float wires

 

 

A test fitting :)

 

 

Asap more 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Awesome choice, I love it. There is just something about Japanese float planes that I really like. Looking forward to seeing this come alive.

BK

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Posted by jgeratic on Monday, April 25, 2016 4:13 PM

Thank you Scottrc and BrandonK.

Nothing looks better than actual wood for those planks, and the Goose is coming along nicely.  Did you have to rebuild that lip around the nose and fuselage - it looks it could be very tricky?

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Not whole lot to update on the Hanriot, been focusing on getting a better surface finish on the cowl and front.  The aluminum paint really dials up blemishes in those areas.

I did get the engine painted.

An overall semi gloss black, followed with a good misting of steel paint.  Still might add a rough wash of oil staining. 

Also got some roundel decals applied:

I had used a silver pencil crayon on the raised ribs, but the clear gloss darkened all that work.  Might have to redo once an overall satin coat is put on.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by BrandonK on Sunday, April 24, 2016 10:51 AM

Jack, that little kit is really coming together now. Great work thus far.

Scottrc, that looks super good even in white primer. 

 

These birds you guys are all building are quite impressive.

BK

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Posted by scottrc on Sunday, April 24, 2016 8:43 AM

Very informative Jack.  Thanks.

  

In regards to my Goose, after taping up the panel lines, I layed on a coat of white primer and next will be sanding and filling defects that show up in the primer.  

Also started on building the dock.  

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, April 20, 2016 5:41 PM

Thanks Hunter and Scott - had a good chuckle reading the description of experiencing the panel line scribing.
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As far as rigging goes on the Hanriot HD.2, most of it will be dabs of super glue in pre-drilled holes.  A few areas have holes drilled completely through as the rigging points are located directly opposite of each are, such as the rudder and fin.



Only two eyelets were made, located at the bottoms  of each aileron.  As can be seen on a real specimen above, this is not an acurate portrayal of that pivot point for the control line.  I did it that way just to make things easier when it comes time to rig, cutting down on the number of areas that glue needs to be applied to.
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Well I lied about being done with construction.  There were a couple areas I thought needed a bit more attention. 

First was the gaps created between the fuselage and new size cowl.   Fashioned a new 'plate' on top from plastic sheet (inset photo).  The front end was stuffed with some putty to keep it raised.  The sides were not that bad, so left as is.

Above is a before and after.

Also felt the front end of the cowl was too open now with the increased size.  So I measured my Eduard kit, and calculations told me it could use correcting. 
So same deal here, some plastic sheet is laid around the edge, and once the glue had dried, the extra it trimmed and sanded.

I have got a coat of paint on the main components.  Sort of light blue grey (French Horizon blue?), that will mainly be the pontoons and metal tubing.  Still have the aluminum cowl and front panels, while the fabric surfaces going to try for a slight aluminum finish.

regards,
Jack

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Posted by scottrc on Wednesday, April 20, 2016 2:53 PM

Jack,

I am liking how you are thinking this out like a full sized plane assembly.  It is going to be much more sturdier and easier to do the final assembly.  I built my first 1/32 WW1 model last summer, out of the box, using all the kit parts, and never again.  It was a trainwreck to assemble and rig so next time, its metal and wood for supports and brass eyelets and turnbuckles.  In regards to rigging, is it all attached to eyelets on the fueslage?

Scott

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Posted by Sailor Steve on Wednesday, April 20, 2016 10:37 AM

jgeratic

Yeah, the body (including rudder and cowl) is about three inches.  Lower wing span is four inches, and main wing comes in at four and 3/4 inches.

This is why I like to build everything in one scale. I've built a lot of WW1 models, and some of them are pretty tiny. The Boeing 1 will be five inches long with a wingspan of eight-and-a-half inches. Of course it's a two-seater, but still...

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Posted by scottrc on Tuesday, April 19, 2016 5:04 PM

Woo hoo, I just got an email that my order for the .015" and .032" chart tape and weathering pastels just shipped.  Another couple of days and I'm back in business.  I tried to scribe the panel lines on the Goose, and after the first two attempts, came to the conclusion that not all the scotch in Scotland would prevent the results of this endeavor of me sitting in the middle of the room, counting the flowers on the wall, and watching Captian Kangeroo for the rest of my life.  

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Posted by Hunter on Monday, April 18, 2016 2:52 PM

Jack, 

Outstanding work sir! I am blown away by how small, and how detailed your build is. I have immensely enjoyed your WIP. Looking forward to your next build! Wonderful job Jack.

Hunter 

      

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