ARMOR - Small AFV Group Build, all scales done

Matt,, edog,, Sounds like we might have a small group build within a group build hehehe. anyhow I wasn't planning on doing an interior for my 222 but now listening to you guys I think I might have to give it a try. never done an interior before, but since on the Sherman group build I tried a lot of new things, I figure why should this build be any different. When I get home tonight I will check out those sites and see what they have. Look forward to exchanging info with both of you.

Sounds like a plan! It will be a lot easier with a bit of company!

Matt

I wouldn't mind some motivation to build that best Faun, but I'm in the M1 BG, then after that it's the towed gun build, so it all depends on when this thing would start.
Also, what about the SAM transporter.

Now, this is what a group build does best! If I get to my hobby shop soon, maybe I could do a 222/223...lol it all depends. my M20 has gotta finish up nice!

Well gang as I said in the Sherman Group Build I tried alot of things there that I dont think I would have normally tried but because of the amount off knowledge that was available to me in that build my Sherman turned out great(at least in my opinion). Getting ideas and techniques from other modelers is what this group build and forum are all about. Now you guys have me wishing it was april 1st.

hahahaha, just can't wait. I almost started building my kit-i picked it off the shelf, and opened up all the bags, and almost started choping pieces out-but then i realized-this was my GB project. I though, gee, i am dumb, so i put it away, and picked an artillery piece off(not doing that GB) and started on that instead. lol
just keep waitin, just keep waiten

I already cleaned the wheels before this GB was announced, but I shelved it for about a year after that.

Now that there are some halftrack experts massed here, what tweaks/modifications should I make to my kit (aside from the radio) to make it more accurate. I'm not afraid of difficult tasks. BTW - I'm building the old (No.113) Tamiya Sd.Kfz. 250/3 "Greif" kit.

gnsnow,

I have built the Greif out of the box, but am detailing a similar kit, so I will go through my references tonight to see what stands out.
Here is a start. I found some of this really useful, and there is buckets on the 250/3

http://afvinteriors.hobbyvista.com/250/250a.html

Basic stuff like thinning fenders etc all are useful with this kit, but it does build up nice.

Matt

Beav, did you say you want everyone to start this by May 20th?
Just curious. I want to be a part of this, but I don't know if that timeframe will allow me to join. I hope I manage to get the towed gun done by then.
So have you finalized any criteria regarding vehicle type, or anything like that?

I'm in. I'm new, so i'll say giday to you all, but i'm looking forward to learning from you in this group build.
I think i'll also build an American M20 in 1/35th scale. What's the general feeling about the two kits, tamiya and italeri?

I wish everyone, who wants in to tell me by May 20th. You can start anytime after April 4th. I believe that the finalized criteria are somewhat like this-found on the first post on the first page. You can have armoured cars, trucks, military vehicles-jeeps/kubles/humvees, halftracks, and wreckers-just the vehicle part for the build, but not the trailer-you can build that to if you want to. Display is anyway you want. Any size, or era is good with me. We will wait for you to finish the other builds-I am also involved in M1, but not the towed group-although I have a 25pdr in the works right now. Just let me know, I think you have, and you will be a part of the build.

Padawan! Welcome to the Dark Side Forum! Hope you learn a lot from this build! FYI, I built the Italeri M8-you probably know that it is an M20 with a 37mm gun turret. I am not sure if Italeri makes this kit-they probably do--but I found it an awesome build for the M8, and I have no reason why an M20 would be any harder. I will be doin Tamiya's M20, but I have heard that the wheels are a bit oversized. I might scrap the M8-it was my first build, and half is broken-the axles, I want the correct scale wheels off of it.
The Tamiya kit looks nice and clean, with no readily aparent errors on it.
Welcome!

Welcome Padawan, you made the right decision, the Dark one

Interesting that padawan has felt the power of the darkside.

Anyone read the new Tanks in Detail on the SdKfz 250?

Well they say once you have gone over to the dark side you never go back. I know that I have a wingy thingy in the works but it may end up like the other wingy things i started,, unbuilt and on the shelf with that sad puppy dog look saying finish me please!!!!!!! But alas the dark side wont let go of me and I am drawn back to Armour and all things grounded.

Welcome aboard Padawan

Hahahaha, you guys might just scare him away!
it's the light(really dark light) side...oh heck, never miind
lol

Gnsnow, I have not read the Tanks in Detail book, but I did see it in the store and flipped throught it. From what I saw, most of the pictures can be found on the AFV interiors site. Here is the link, just in case you have not been there yet:

http://afvinteriors.hobbyvista.com/250/250a.html

I love that site, I think that it willl help out a lot, only with future stuff-I can't use most for my M20

Cheers guys, i feel much welcome already. i'll check out the tamiya m20. I'm guessing that it comes with an interior? seeing as there is a guys looking out from a hatch in all the photos i have seen of it?
but the dark side or the light side, it's going to be all arour for me.
catch yous round

Yup, I have broken into the M20, it has a full interior-albeit not as good as one that you might want-you can always upgrade with AM parts, but I am going out of the box style

Thanks for welcoming my good mate Padawan to the build and forums.
We work together (he is, actually, more or less my padawan!!).

Funny thing about M20/M8 wheels. apparently both are accurate. The Tamiya's are WW2 and the Italeri's are post war. I can't remember where I saw this, it was late last night on the net, but the source was FSM contributor Cookie Sewell. This is only me passing on info, I know precious little about M's but I had heard about the wheels.

I'm not an accuracy freak, but I hate knowing there is something major wrong with a kit. Take Tamiya's Sdkfz 251 c. I love halftracks, and would love to some conversions based on this affordable kit, but apparently it has MAJOR accuracy issues.

Same with my 223 that I will be building for the build. I just can't ignore that the back should be 'open air'.

Okay, I will hop down off the soapbox now, sorry 'bout all that.

Matt

nice, i'll have a look at the tamiya. i'd like to try something with an interior.

QUOTE: Originally posted by beav It's sounds like the larger vehicles-FAMO's and Dragon Wagon's will be included, but they are stretching the envelope, and anything bigger, might not work.

Is there anything bigger than that?
I want to join, but I am not completely sure if I can. I've got alot of school stuff coming up this week and spring break after that. I wont be back till the 16th. Count me in until I say no. I will either build a 1/76 M8 Armored car of M20 UV. Till later Adios Amigos!

I finally got my stuff (British Quad and Eduard PE). Anyone else doing a Quad?

I changed my mind, I'll be doing a 1/35 Demag which will tow my nebelwerfer for the towed build. the demag will be italeri's kit w/ nebelwerfer

Ok Gang I am getting ansy here that 222 keeps calling my name,,,,,, April 4th seems like a long ways away. Oh well If a friend of mine can give up chocolate for lent then I can wait.

I picked up a Tamiya German half track for the build. I might change to something else though.

Which halftrack John?

Matt

half track has a tank track on the rear axles and tires in the front. You'd know what it was if you saw a pic.

No one else doing a Quad? Oh well no biggie. I remember seeing this kit when I started this hobby back in the 80's (without the field gun, Tamiya sold that separately) but I never got a chance to do one. I thought I would take the oportunity and finally build one.

Joe

Whoops, left the forum for a few days... jkeller!, I have a quad, and I am most done with an included gun with it. I will do the quad for this build, only if I finish my M20 first...mabey the temtation will get me, and i'll start it also on April 4th...lol.