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75th Anniversary of 1942 (World at War)

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Posted by DantheMan85 on Saturday, November 11, 2017 1:12 PM

Eric: Very nice Panzer IV.

Thanks Bish.

Thanks Checkmate.

Thanks Lostagain: Great work on the Marder.

Thanks Jgeratic.

This Stuka build has just flown by, very simple and easy construction. A little bit of filler, very tight fits. After filling and sanding the wing and fuselage, I went over them with 2000 grit sand paper. The engine fitted perfect in the cowling.

 8 by Daniel Smith, on Flickr

 

Items prepared and ready for airbrushing. I'm guessing the bombs are painted RLM 02, instruction's don't say.

 9 by Daniel Smith, on Flickr

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Saturday, November 11, 2017 9:54 AM

Sounds good, Eric.  The Panzer is up--really nice snow effect!

And I've added the Wildcat.  Looking forward to that one, too!

Thanks for another contribution to the GB.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by taxtp on Friday, November 10, 2017 4:54 PM
I love your work Eric, and I am really looking forward to a fully faded Wildcat. I've saved the photos of your dio for future reference. Cheers Tony

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Posted by EBergerud on Friday, November 10, 2017 3:52 AM

Check: I suppose any photo with snow on it will do. Doesn't matter. You're running a great build here, so let's continue. Put me down for a 1/48 Tamiya Wildcat - we'll have it join the Marines at Guadalcanal. I wrote a couple of books about the campaign - about time I did a model for it. Also want a quick build. I'll put serious effort into a proper South Pacific fade. But the kit isn't complex and I've got an Eduard Marston Matting base that'll do perfecto so no dio. I owe Bish a Sunderland for the RAF build - want to leave some time for that. The kit is supposed to be very good, but it's not going to fall together by itself - especially if I give it a water base. No snow for either. (I really should do a Stalingrad topic - but I can put that off until next year - battle didn't end until 1943. I've never built a T-34 and I've got what's supposed to be a very good one from DML in the stash.) Eric

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Thursday, November 9, 2017 12:38 PM

Exceptional work, Eric.  It makes me cold just to look at it--and it was snowing this a.m. in the Badger State.

You've got quite a few excellent photos posted.  Do you have a preference for the front page?

Thanks for contributing to the GB.  I think you've created quite a work of art with the snow-bound Panzer.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, November 7, 2017 3:25 PM

Eric, i really admire those who can pull off a damaged vehicle build, and yours pulls it off brilliantly. I think the snow dusting is really well done, i really like the look of it on the foliage as well as the tank. I have only used that stuff once, on an aircarft dio, but wil be useing it on an armour dio next year, hope i can pull it off like you have.

Personaly, i am not a fan of the idea that a vehicle has to fit into the terrain. On hard gound, frozen or sun baked, they do run across it rather than sink in it.

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Posted by ManCityFan on Tuesday, November 7, 2017 7:11 AM

Hey Eric, I think that dio looks excellent. I appreciate the explanation of your thought process.  I have not attempted a dio yet, so this is helpful when I get there.  Thank you for mentioning the products you use, as this is very helpful as well.

I know this did not come out the way you were hoping, but as someone who doesn't have the picture of what you were shooting for in my head, I think this dio works.  That said, I have posted finished models where I got lots of compliments, but when I look at it, I know what I could have done better, and it bothers me, so I know where you are coming from.  I think we all share this, where a build or dio looks really good to others, but we are not satisfied ourselves.  "Occupational hazard"?

I am impressed with both your technique and thought process.  Hats off for trying something so ambitious.  I think you pulled it off quite well.

D

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Posted by jgeratic on Tuesday, November 7, 2017 1:11 AM

Eric, I think that's a bang up job.  Yes

Really great scene, it feels cold and abandoned.  As for things that could of been done differently, I think we all have builds that echo this. 

regards,

Jack

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Posted by EBergerud on Monday, November 6, 2017 7:27 PM

 

OK: enough with dead Panzers in the snow.

 

 left by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 As I feared, the overall project doesn't work. I got too ambitious. But everything was worth it anyway. I wanted to practice a number of winter effects. If you count the beans, in the Nazi-Soviet War there was a full year of winter – throw in six months of “in between.” Anyway, if one wants to do Eastern Front subjects, especially if put in dios (or “vignettes”) it's a good idea to get acquainted with winter weathering.

  I'd like to briefly explain how I approach weathering. Mig Jimenez is right that it's impossible for any of us to make a small thing look like a big thing. He uses this observation to defend the use of considerable “artistic license” for armor modelers. He agrees that not many real world AFVs really looked like (to use Rinaldi's phrase) “tank art” - but argues that it's great fun to make that a goal. After all, there were thousands of AFVs in WWII alone and no doubt some did look the part of something that could be placed in a museum of modern art. (As I've found, there's a whole genre of photography and painting that specializes in rust and rusty things. And that stuff is intended for galleries.) So, if a modeler wants “wow factor” there is history to support the effort. However, I think most history supports the conclusion that war is the enemy of art. I'm a military historian by trade and have seen thousands of photos of WWII war machines of all types. I think most weapons, unless brand new or just overhauled (quite a few items really) would have shown considerable fading, lots of smudging where crew walked around and a good bucket of dust, petro stains, grime and dirt. (I do not believe that in the front line there were clean tanks, trucks, jeeps or soldiers. Same is true with ships, but if you spend six months on one model, aggressive weathering takes nerve, even if history is on your side.) I'm not so sure about lots of chipping and really not so sure about a lot of rust. In any case, I try to evoke with my efforts (humble enough) the way something might have actually looked. So no one will ever describe anything I do as a treat to the eye. That certainly means I won't write any books or win any prizes – but neither would have happened anyway.

 I tried to do several things on this project and each worked in its own way – just not together. First I wanted to make extensive use of oils to turn a very dark gray tank into a kind of grimy light gray – and no blue tint. Here's where I started from and ended up.

  DECals by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

 

 diowos2 by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

 I wanted to use whitewash. But I didn't want a deep winter dio. So that meant I was looking for a whitewash that was largely worn off as opposed to one largely white with big chips. There are a number of ways to do this and I used tank mules to experiment. I finally decided to go back to my Medea Com.Art opaque white. Com.Art is wonderful paint but too fragile for straight up work on styrene. (Some day I'll put GAC 200 hardener in it – be neat if it worked because Com.Art sprays like a dream from a brush.) So I gave the tank a light brushing of white, let it dry, and carefully wore it away with a brush and water. No chipping fluid required. (AK now makes a fading white that also needs no hairspray or chipping fluid.) I should have taken a close-up before the snow dusting, the photo above shows the effect pretty well. I could have left more on, but I knew there was going to be snow on top of it eventually.

 I wanted to do a knocked out tank. Knocked out tanks, judging from a blizzard of photos online, come in all varieties. I didn't have an interior for the kit (nor the time) to do a really wrecked Panzer. (Whitmann's Tiger had its turret blown off in his last fight – you get the idea.) I could have simply put a hole in it – many a dead tank looked like that. No fire, but the crew all casualties. But I wanted to try for some serious fire damage which would be rust and black dusted with white/gray soot. So I imagined a likely enough scenario. A tired Panzer IV southwest of Moscow in late February 42 runs into an ambush or is simply outflanked by Soviet tanks or anti-tank guns and takes two hits just below the turret – right where some ammunition is stored. But perhaps the shell supply is low. The tank dies but isn't blown up. And here's what I got:

  damage by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

 I did the damage with a hot knife. It's a pity the fenders weren't thinner, but I didn't see the need early. The rust is done with Metal Effects an “Oxidizing Iron Paint” from Modern Masters. I've used this before and I like it. (Craft types do too – several You Tube videos but none for models. Comes in different colors – faded bronze etc.) It does take some getting used to. It's a water based thick paint (smells bad, but cleans with water) that has real rust as its pigment. You activate the stuff with a blue liquid that comes with it. (About $12 for a life time supply.) The color varies greatly depending upon how many coats you use and how activator is put on. Originally all of the rust looked pretty much like the muffler:

 

 rear by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

After rusting the damaged area I dabbed some LifeColor Matte Black around the periphery and used a Golden Black Glaze over almost everything else. (The glaze is very translucent.) Then some dabs of black pigment, and a little white pigment. Pretty happy overall.

  I did want a base. I was trying to emulate a rural area with some small trees and foliage in the few weeks between winter and spring – but before the full Russian thaw or “rasputitsa” which would have called for mud galore. So I used Sculptamold on top of a piece of plexiglass. I mixed burnt umber paint into the first batch and then sprayed it lightly with gray and gave it a good dust of several pigments. (My pigments are from the art houses Sennelier and Gamblin – made for professional painters and cost about one quarter what something from Mig or AK would run. I have white, black, yellow ochre, sienna and umber – that will make any earth color imagineable. I have other fading colors in the very useful Tamiya weathering sets and some house brand stuff from Micro Scale. Actually pretty useful for fading green or blue.) I also put on the brilliant flock made by Scenic Express (better than Woodland Scenics except for WS excellent “realistic water” in my view). It comes in about a thousand colors – this was forest floor mixed with a dull pasture brown. The foliage is made with Scenic Express “Super Trees” - a kind of dried lichen from the Norwegian tundra that is far better than anything you can buy or make with wire. I wanted the ground to have a lot of snow – the remnant of what had been a deep cover that was thawing, freezing, thawing, until you've got a lot of thin snowy areas with some revealed ground. So I put on another thin and irregular coat of uncolored Sculptamold. When snow is in this stage, it's dirty and it freezes so I applied both a Com.Art black wash with some Vallejo gloss varnish. (There's just a bit of a frozen puddle made of Golden Gloss Medium behind the tank, but I forgot it was there and didn't make it a major theme.) I also built up more snow than I wanted in the middle so it would hide the bottom of the tank tracks. It didn't help the look, but I didn't want the tank to be “glued” to the base, and without something it sits on top of everything – not too realistic for a 20 ton vehicle. So here's the base without snow dusting, with a close-up of some foliage after being dusted:

  diowoS1 by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

 foliage by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

 And I wanted snow. This was a good chance to use Precision Ice and Snow's very impressive Krycell artifical snow. Here's where things kind of went off. I wanted a nice fresh dusting of light white snow. As expected this pretty much covered any remnant of the faded whitewash – or most of the weathering actually. What impressed me about Krycell in the past was its crystal like texture and scale effect and that it has. However, even this stuff is not fine enough for a light dusting of powder to look like a light dusting of snow. That meant I had to lay off the damaged areas or that would have been lost too: not a price worth paying. So, it's a little like two dios at once: one with a snow dusting and one without. We could say that the snowfall came right before the tank was hit and some was melted – so we will. But that's not what things would have looked like. (Soot etc would have been evident over most of the tank and there would have been zones of ice or water between what remained of the snow and what was melted.) Should add that Precision makes a “Snow Effects” wash that is terrific. (It would have made a great white wash because it comes off easily.) It's on the front of the tracks, and would work very well for a vehicle that had been snowed but had mostly melted. Check YouTube – all of the videos from Precision are super. The snow would have worked nicely if I would have used it on an identical dio without damage on the tank. It would work even better if I used a lot more of it to show a tank with a proper snow fall on it. In retrospect I could have built up more snow on the right side at an angle to emulate a wind driven snow. And in retrospect I should also have gone in and done a final pin wash on the wheels. But frankly, it was time to stop. I've been thinking about my next project (maybe a Tamiya Wildcat dressed for the dance at Guadalcanal?) and when that happens it's time to finish. And so I have. Here are some more pics of “Wrecked Tank in Russian Snow.”

 Eric

 

 right-r by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

 lft-ft by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

 front by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

 left by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

 right-r by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

 right by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

 

 

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Posted by EBergerud on Monday, November 6, 2017 5:23 PM

Hope you can brighten the Marder pics a bit. I've had very mixed success with dot filters. Maybe it's a matter of definition. I've found a simple dot filter is a terrific way to fade. Use it in conjunction with filters - not sure which should come first. Anyway, the last pic shows a very nice weathering even if something is wrecked. (I doubt I've made a kit without something either omitted or scratched because of "battle damage.") Is there something different about the last pic and the one above it - it appears so?

Anyone keen on oils really should check out Mike Rinaldi's latest YouTube efforts. He's almost completely junking "Tank Art" as developed in four volumes of books. (At least they're reasonably priced and still contain very neat ideas.) Now it's water based acrylics (he's affiliated with Mission Models), oils applied directly and some pigments for basically everything. His use of direct oils for pinwashes is very convincing. You can see it best on a half hour piece he did with an AMPS gent who owns a hobby shop in Toronto. The longer pieces are more talk than action. (Adam Wilder is my favorite for videos. And, perhaps this is a trend, his product range now offers a new range of acrylic filters/washes that can "reactivate": just like Medea Com.Art has been doing for years. Looks like some folk are getting weary of using enamel products. I've been there for a long time - although I still use powerful solvents for airbrush cleaning.) Eric

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, November 6, 2017 5:04 PM

Looks great, lost.  The weathering is admirable and realistic.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by jgeratic on Monday, November 6, 2017 1:27 PM

Eric, that winter scene is coming along quite nicely.

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Dan, fine start on the ski equippd Stuka. 

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Lost, outstanding stuff at the weathering stage.

regards,
Jack

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, November 6, 2017 11:02 AM

If it sticks up or out, I will break it off.

Steve

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Posted by ManCityFan on Monday, November 6, 2017 10:45 AM

Really like the weathering you are doing there, LA.  Those tarp supports were asking for it sticking out there like that.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, November 6, 2017 6:00 AM
Nice work on the marder, some good results with the filter. O don't you love those tarp supports.

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Posted by lostagain on Monday, November 6, 2017 5:36 AM

Eric,

Looking good there, the celluclay is doing a good snow job. Looking forward to seeing how the fresh snow comes up.

Dan,

Interesting Stuka variant, looks like it will be fun, and another snow scene coming up!

The Marder is into the weathering stage, started with the dot filter:

Then I went and did the pinwash around the details, and there are plenty on this riviter's nightmare:

My final touch for the session was to break off the two tarp supports at the back of the compartment. Didn't do them together, no I broke one off, thought "better take care not to do that again" and ten seconds later neatly snapped it off too...

oh well at least I didn't drop it - yet...

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Posted by taxtp on Sunday, November 5, 2017 6:15 PM

That area that looks like it's been scarred by fire is very convincing Eric, it really draws the eye to it.

Cheers

Tony

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Sunday, November 5, 2017 3:41 PM

Well done, Eric.  Very realistic finish.  Looks suitably trashed.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Sunday, November 5, 2017 3:38 PM

 Good start, Dan.  Interesting configuration with the skis.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by ManCityFan on Sunday, November 5, 2017 2:53 PM

Bish

Stunning work there Eric, very impressive.

 

Ditto  The shot damage and weathering is very convincing.  Pretty ambitious dio.  Looks pretty darn good to me!

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, November 5, 2017 2:02 PM

Stunning work there Eric, very impressive.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, November 5, 2017 1:54 PM

Dan, looks good. Glad to hear the fit is good, i had really issues with my 32nd hase Stuka.

Is that cockpit all out of the box, it looks very nice.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, November 5, 2017 1:48 PM

That looks great Eric. I love doing destroyed builds. It allows one to really have fun with weathering.

Steve

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Posted by EBergerud on Sunday, November 5, 2017 2:24 AM

Almost there. Thought I'd post these because I think looks reasonably good as it stands. Actually I think that sculptamold (after lightly washed with black Com Art and given a brush here and there with gloss varnish) looks pretty good as once deep snow covering and soon heading for thaw. (I grew up in Minnesota - I know what it looks like.) But in for a penny .... we need a nice dusting of fresh snow. Hope it doesn't do more harm than good.

Eric

 diowoS1 by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 diowos2 by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 Diows3 by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

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Posted by DantheMan85 on Saturday, November 4, 2017 11:04 AM

 

Great work everyone, my apologies for being away from the group build. Started work on my Trumpeter 1/32 Junkers Ju87B-2/U4 Stuka. The kit so far has been pretty simple to build, no major problems.

 1 by Daniel Smith, on Flickr

 

 

Painting the cockpit, the engine is complete. The only down side is it'll be covered over.

 5 by Daniel Smith, on Flickr

 

 

The skids.

 6 by Daniel Smith, on Flickr

 

 

 

Dry fit the fuselage to the glued wings, there is a small gap where the fuselage meets the wings.

 7 by Daniel Smith, on Flickr

 

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Posted by Bish on Friday, November 3, 2017 2:35 PM

LA, really nice looking Marder, be good to see the paint on.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Friday, November 3, 2017 1:14 PM

Looks really impressive, lost.  Nice paintwork!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by ManCityFan on Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:25 AM

Hey Lost, that Marder is looking good.  I have tried the same technique with dark and light panels, but still have trouble with getting light coats.  Tend to be heavy handed with the paint (patience issues yet again).  You nailed it, though.  Excellent job.

Only caught the last 30 minutes of the Napoli vs. Man City game.  From what I saw, the game lived up to the hype.  Both teams really going for it.  Looks like Napoli are going to wash out of the Champion's League, which is too bad. 

D

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Posted by lostagain on Thursday, November 2, 2017 7:37 AM

Dwayne,

Like the T34, that last photo does show the pigments better. It's great to try something new and have it come off so well.

Chelsea need to shape up if we are going to scare anyone, that was a shocker against Roma. Man City vs Napoli, you were on a winner either way!

Jack,

A lot of work on the Sword kit is paying off as ever.

Eric,

Your PzIV is looking suitably ugly there. Watching your snowy finish with interest.

Rooster,

That is a very different scheme on your 109. hard to belive they would do it like that until you see the photo...

The Marder has had its first coats of paint. Did some dark and light panels trying to get a visual separation of panels. Went from Nato black to Dark Sea Grey on to white. First try wasn't enough:

Second try was better:

Then it was pulled together with a light overcoat of German Grey, there is still some of the contrasting panels showing through. Next is to do decals, filters and pinwashes:

 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, October 31, 2017 12:29 AM

Shouldn't be to tricky. The company that sells them is based in Germany and only has them in 72nd, i haven't seen anyone else do anything similar.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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