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Posted by Bish on Friday, June 16, 2017 4:09 PM

Looks good there crown, keen to see how that camo turns out.

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Friday, June 16, 2017 2:27 PM

pj:  great looking cockpit and especially the IP.

tj:  excellent Jaguar; well done!

crown:  looking forward to seeking the results of your masking and painting; looks good

Fred:  very interesting watching how you do the gunbays; nice work!

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Fredthefoot`s Models on Friday, June 16, 2017 1:15 PM

 i cut the wing panels off , frame inside the wing , then used strech sprue and card to try to create the gun bay , just a rough dry fit to see how i feel ,  tomorrow a little tidyin up to do then paint  n glue should look fine :)

  

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Posted by Fredthefoot`s Models on Friday, June 16, 2017 1:04 PM

crown thats looking great :) tempest , dam that looks awsome mate :)

  

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, June 16, 2017 12:19 PM

Crown: Nice work on the pre-shading there, that's going to look awesome finished. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bossman on Friday, June 16, 2017 11:47 AM

PJ,  very fine cockpit detail - the IP looks real.

Eric - thanks for more decal tips.

Crown - look forward to seeing how that camo pattern comes out.

Chris

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Posted by Bossman on Friday, June 16, 2017 11:39 AM

tempestjohnny

Wow Johnny !  That nose IS Loooong !    You need a panoramic camera just to fit it in the photo !

Very nice looking Jaguar.

Chris

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Posted by jgeratic on Friday, June 16, 2017 10:20 AM

TJ, very nice work on that Jag trainer, and quick too. Yes

ditto on the wanting to see a few more photos.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by crown r n7 on Friday, June 16, 2017 10:01 AM

hey guys those builds all look real good! setting up stencils on my meteor havent done this in awhile need more finessing.

 

 

 Nick.

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Posted by Bish on Friday, June 16, 2017 9:30 AM

O ye, i like that. Thats my favorite of the Sq markings for the Colishall jag's as well. I like that grey as well. The 3 i have will all be from 97 and in the wrap around scheme, i might just have to get another one.

Great work again Johnny, will update the roster tonight.

Thanks again.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, June 16, 2017 9:30 AM

Oh wow that's nice work! Yes

Would love to see more photos. 

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Friday, June 16, 2017 8:54 AM

I'm calling number 2 finished. Jaguar T.2 No. 54 Squadron Coltishall 2004  

 

 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:40 PM

Gamera, Greg , Bish and Fred

Thanks for the comments. Will be closing up the fuselage soon so pictures to follow.

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Posted by Justinryan215 on Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:32 PM

EBergerud

According to Will Pattison on YouTube, A-20 is 54% water mixed with ISP and butyl alcohol (sometimes called butanol) that is commonly found in industrial solvents and thinners. I'm not sure if ISP cut with water would work to help with decals, but it might be worth a try: I'd guess most modelers have a collection of spare decals to test techniques with. It's always been something of a curiosity to me that Tamiya recommends A20 for some tasks and their lacquer thinner for others. It was armor gurus Adam Wilder and Mig Jiminez that argued Tamiya is actually a lacquer paint (if you check auto paints and primers you'll often see the term "acrylic lacquer") and that Tamiya lacquer thinner worked better. I certainly agree with Wilder concerning airbrushing results. (Doog uses Gunze Levelling Thinner - a lacquer thinner - when black basing with solvent based paints like Gunze, Tamiya or Mr. Paint.)

Pattison highly recommends an ISP based thinner by a relatively new company in Europe Ultimate Modeling Products. It's available from Hobbyworld-USA or from Amazon UK. (It's $14 but comes in a hefty 270 ML bottle.) If you go on UMP's web page they claim their thinner can be used with any acrylic and have a chart giving the % of thinner to use with any acrylic paint presently on the market. (They claim it will work on Vallejo Model Color - but that paint is bound by polymer which will break apart if thinned with anything. Perhaps a fast drying alcohol would "restitch" the polymer when it dried, but I have no plans to try it when I know thinned polymers like airbrush medium or extender work perfectly well.) UMP is also bottling Badger Stynelrez primer in a multitude of colors.

I have some of the new Mission Model paints and their thinner must be a close relative to Vallejo Thinner which is designed for Model Air because it has no alcohol odor. I tried the stuff last night to re-black my LA7 mule, and it does lay down a fine coat.

Eric

 

 

Without even thinking about it, I have used Tamiya's x20a thinner to thin Vallejo acrylics. ...successfullyrics at that!  As for a decal solvent, I google it and several links came up, and they all mentioned success, so I went ahead and used it, aND it wor ked fantastically!.  As for the chemical make up of the a20...Is the a20 thinner a different product than the x20a?  Or are they fundamentally the same?

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Posted by EBergerud on Thursday, June 15, 2017 1:45 PM

According to Will Pattison on YouTube, A-20 is 54% water mixed with ISP and butyl alcohol (sometimes called butanol) that is commonly found in industrial solvents and thinners. I'm not sure if ISP cut with water would work to help with decals, but it might be worth a try: I'd guess most modelers have a collection of spare decals to test techniques with. It's always been something of a curiosity to me that Tamiya recommends A20 for some tasks and their lacquer thinner for others. It was armor gurus Adam Wilder and Mig Jiminez that argued Tamiya is actually a lacquer paint (if you check auto paints and primers you'll often see the term "acrylic lacquer") and that Tamiya lacquer thinner worked better. I certainly agree with Wilder concerning airbrushing results. (Doog uses Gunze Levelling Thinner - a lacquer thinner - when black basing with solvent based paints like Gunze, Tamiya or Mr. Paint.)

Pattison highly recommends an ISP based thinner by a relatively new company in Europe Ultimate Modeling Products. It's available from Hobbyworld-USA or from Amazon UK. (It's $14 but comes in a hefty 270 ML bottle.) If you go on UMP's web page they claim their thinner can be used with any acrylic and have a chart giving the % of thinner to use with any acrylic paint presently on the market. (They claim it will work on Vallejo Model Color - but that paint is bound by polymer which will break apart if thinned with anything. Perhaps a fast drying alcohol would "restitch" the polymer when it dried, but I have no plans to try it when I know thinned polymers like airbrush medium or extender work perfectly well.) UMP is also bottling Badger Stynelrez primer in a multitude of colors.

I have some of the new Mission Model paints and their thinner must be a close relative to Vallejo Thinner which is designed for Model Air because it has no alcohol odor. I tried the stuff last night to re-black my LA7 mule, and it does lay down a fine coat.

Eric

 

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:55 AM

Johnny, I was also going to comment on the long nose of the Jag. Bish beat me to it. Very sleek looking aircraft, though it does look ever so slightly odd to my eye.

Makes me wonder where the CG (center of gravity) is on the real ones.

Ernie, cockpit looking good. I sure like the instrument dials. Haven't tried the individual punch method yet.

Also like your seat belts. I keep going back to PE belts and I don't know why as I'm not that crazy about them.

 

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Posted by Fredthefoot`s Models on Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:34 AM
no worrys bish thanks i did wonder if the guns were the same i know the panels are slight differance but the bay is the same shape , will look on my mk1 typhoon :)

  

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:28 AM

Fredthefoot`s Models

plastic junkie  ,  looking great mate like the fact you think like me lol i use pot noodle lids for belts and before any one asks its bombbay bad boy flavour lol

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gamera no worrys i have tons too just not the mkII hurricane lol

 

Bish thanks mate a saw them  just not clear for my eye lol not to worry will have to just wing it as they say lol

 

No, its not very clear is it. But just had a thought. have you looked for Typhoon gun bays. Same guns and same company, the bays will most likely be very similar. At least give you an idea.

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Posted by Fredthefoot`s Models on Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:17 AM

plastic junkie  ,  looking great mate like the fact you think like me lol i use pot noodle lids for belts and before any one asks its bombbay bad boy flavour lol

,

gamera no worrys i have tons too just not the mkII hurricane lol

 

Bish thanks mate a saw them  just not clear for my eye lol not to worry will have to just wing it as they say lol

  

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:35 AM

Fredthefoot`s Models
hi guys anyone know where or has a photo of a hawker hurricane MKII C gun bay , looked all over the web cant find a clear good photo , found tons just not MKII C even looked at real and 1/24 builds nothing clear grrrrr
 

Fred, best i can come up with is on here.

http://www.k5083.mistral.co.uk/TECHDATA.HTM

Scroll down on the right side theres some sketches.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:30 AM

plasticjunkie

Chris and TJ

Both are looking great. Good luck to Steve as he leaves up for his evaluation today.

 

I got some work done on the Spit. Punched out all the decals and applied each with Solvaset and when dry applied Clear Parts Cement for the lenses.

Made some belts from wine bottle foil and used some scrap pe for the buckles

and the rest

Most detail will be obstructed once the fuselage is closed up but at least it's there.

 

Looking very nice there PJ, really nice work on the IP.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:29 AM

tempestjohnny

 

 
Bish

 

 
tempestjohnny

Paint on the Jaguar. Something different Dark Sea Grey 

 

 

 

Now i do like that. I never realised the 2 seater had such a long nose section.

 

 

 

the T.2 was almost 3 feet longer then the GR.1

 

 

Ye, i can well believe that, it looks it.

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:12 AM

TJ: The Jag is looking good! Nice progress! 

PJ: Nice work there too. Love the instrument panel. 

Fred: Wish I could help you. If it were a Spit I'd probably have a photo somewhere but not a Hurricane. Embarrassed

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:03 AM

Chris and TJ

Both are looking great. Good luck to Steve as he leaves up for his evaluation today.

 

I got some work done on the Spit. Punched out all the decals and applied each with Solvaset and when dry applied Clear Parts Cement for the lenses.

Made some belts from wine bottle foil and used some scrap pe for the buckles

and the rest

Most detail will be obstructed once the fuselage is closed up but at least it's there.

 GIFMaker.org_jy_Ayj_O

 

 

Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!!

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Thursday, June 15, 2017 7:12 AM

Bish

 

 
tempestjohnny

Paint on the Jaguar. Something different Dark Sea Grey 

 

 

 

Now i do like that. I never realised the 2 seater had such a long nose section.

 

the T.2 was almost 3 feet longer then the GR.1

 

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Posted by Fredthefoot`s Models on Thursday, June 15, 2017 5:09 AM
hi guys anyone know where or has a photo of a hawker hurricane MKII C gun bay , looked all over the web cant find a clear good photo , found tons just not MKII C even looked at real and 1/24 builds nothing clear grrrrr

  

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Posted by Justinryan215 on Thursday, June 15, 2017 3:36 AM

Bossman

 

 
Justinryan215
I used Tamiya acrylic thinner x-20a with great success to get the decals to settle down on the lancaster, also using future brushed on the panel as a setting solution worker a treat to reduce silvering!

 

Thanks Justin and PJ.   Yeah - I'll have to try something new.  MicroSol seems to be effective on some, but not all decals.  So I'll give Solvaset or Tamiya's x-20a a try if I can find either one of them (shouldn't be a problem as we have two LHS's in the Rochester area that carry alot of Tamiya product - not sure if I've ever seen Solvaset - but then I haven't asked for it either).

Anything I need to watch out for when using either of these ?   Can they be over-aggressive ? or attack acrylic finishes more than MicroSol ?  (I use acrylic paints exclusively for anything except white.)

Thanks for the tips.

Chris

 

Since Tamiya's x20a is their acrylic thinner,  I would "try it in an inconspicuous area" first.  I used it over a lacquer clear coat with no problems!

"...failure to do anything because someone else can do better makes us rather dull and lazy..."

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, June 15, 2017 1:57 AM

tempestjohnny

Paint on the Jaguar. Something different Dark Sea Grey 

 

Now i do like that. I never realised the 2 seater had such a long nose section.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Fredthefoot`s Models on Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:54 AM

looking great tempestjohnny :)

  

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Posted by Fredthefoot`s Models on Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:53 AM

thank you checkmateking :)

  

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