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Posted by lewbud on Friday, March 30, 2018 1:07 AM

taxtp

Buddy, I've just put your first entry in, let me know if you want to enter the 2nd or wait until you complete te first. Thats a kit in my stash, so I'll be keen to see it work out. Good luck with the canopy framing !

Cheers

Tony

 

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Posted by Sailing_Dutchman on Saturday, March 31, 2018 10:59 PM

I wold like to enter with a 1/35 Dragon Tunisian Tiger. I built it about two years ago, but after the painting failed I stripped it down to the primer and put aside to finish later. I have looked at it a few times, but every time I tried to start again something came up I had to put it back on the shelf. Here is where it is now:

   

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, March 31, 2018 11:10 PM

taxtp

Hi Rob,

I'll put you down for the Bergepanzer, let me know if I got it wrong or it changes. Welcome aboard.

Cheers

Tony

 

This kit hasn't been touched since I took this picture. The photo is dated October 2011, nearly 7 years ago. It is the Tamiya Panzer IV that I got from a sale forum. It didn't have a turret and I bought the CMK bergepanzer conversion for it.

Now to dig out this old thing.

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  • From: San Francisco Bay Area
Posted by bufflehead on Sunday, April 1, 2018 7:27 PM

Dutch, that is one heck of a Tiger mess you got there!!  Its going to be very cool to see it rebuilt and painted again!

Rob, cool Pz. IV conversion!  Looking forward to its completion!  I've got a couple of very old shelf queens from 2007 that I should probably complete for this GB! 

So today is the official start date of the GB and here's the Dragon T-34/85 1944 kit practically complete.  I spent nearly all day finishing up the assembly, but it really wasn't all that much...most of the assembly was done back in 2015.  Today I just had to redo all the ice cleats and PE straps, added a tarp to the turret, completed a few PE details and fixed a couple of broken parts.

Now its ready for primer and paint:

Model Kasten tracks, Aber metal barrel, old Lion Roar PE set and a couple of scratchbuilt parts to replace part that were lost.

Ernest

Last Armor Build - 1/35 Dragon M-26A1, 1/35 Emhar Mk.IV Female

     

Last Aircraft Builds - Hobby Boss 1/72 F4F Wildcat & FW-190A8

     

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Posted by Griffin25 on Sunday, April 1, 2018 8:14 PM

What a great looking build. Very sharp! Those tracks really set it off. 

 

 

Griffin

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  • From: From the Mit, but live in Mason, O high ho
Posted by hogfanfs on Monday, April 2, 2018 12:15 PM

Ernest,

The T-34 is looking great! I have to say I really like the Model Kasten tracks. I know they are time consuming to assemble, but, they really do stand out well on your build!

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

  • Member since
    May 2013
  • From: From the Mit, but live in Mason, O high ho
Posted by hogfanfs on Monday, April 2, 2018 3:23 PM

This is what I had posted on FSM when I first started the Japanese Type 4 tank:

I am presenting to you my WIP of the Japanese Type 4 “Chi-To” tank. It’s a 1/35 scale model from Fine Molds. First I would like to give a little history of this tank:

 The Type 4 medium tank Chi-To was one of several medium tanks developed by the Imperial Japanese Army towards the end of World War II. While by far the most advanced Japanese wartime tank to reach production, industrial and material shortages resulted in only six chassis being manufactured; only two of these were completed with neither seeing combat.

The Type 4 Chi-To was a thirty-ton, all-welded medium tank with a maximum armor thickness of about 75 millimeters (3.0 in) on the frontal plates.[1] Manned by a crew of five, it was 6.73 m (22.1 ft) long, 2.87 m (9 ft 5 in) high, and 2.87 m (9 ft 5 in) wide. Main armament was a turret-mounted long-barreled 75 mm/L56.4 (4.23 m) gun capable of being elevated between -6.5 to +20 degrees. An 850 meters per second (2,800 ft/s) muzzle velocity gave it an armor penetration of 75 millimeters at 1,000 meters. A single 7.7 mm machine gun was mounted in the hull.

The Type 4's 300 kW (400 hp) gasoline engine was significantly more powerful than the 180 kW (240 hp) engine of the 19-ton Type 3 Chi-Nu,[3] giving it a top speed of 45 km/h (28 mph) on tracks supported by seven road wheels.
 
Development of the Type 4 Chi-To medium tank began in 1943 as an intended successor to the Type 97-kai Shinhoto. The first prototype was delivered in 1944. Similar in appearance but significantly larger than the Type 97, it was the most advanced Japanese tank to reach production.

Intended Type 4 Chi-To output was 25 tanks per month spread over two Mitsubishi Heavy Industries factories. Late war shortage-induced delays caused by the severing of supply lines with conquered territories and U.S. strategic bombing of the Japanese mainland resulted in only six chassis being built by 1945. Just two were completed and neither saw combat.

 

And for those of you who are interested:
Japanese Tank Nomenclature
There were Two systems: Order System and Classification System, both of which are under the Army Imperial Year System
Army Imperial Year System
 
The Imperial Year was used as the standard for designating the type, based on the mystical founding of Japan in 660 BC. The accepted practice was to use the last two numbers of the year as a type number, as in the Type 89 medium tank of 1929, with Type 100 for items accepted in 1940. After 1940 only the last digit was used, so Type 2 equipment was accepted in 1942.
Order System
Each tank is given a separate name, based on the order in adaptation. The Type 89 medium tank was the “I-Go”, or “first car/model” while the Type 95 light tank was the “Ha-Go”, or “third car/model” (no second model has been identified).
 Classification System
Starting from the Type 97 Chi-Ha, the naming system was changed to incorporate the classification of the tank. Each tank would get a two letter name, with the first letter standing for the type of tank and the second for the order in which the tanks were developed.
 The majority of tanks fell into three categories – Chi, Ke and Ho, or Medium, Light and Gun, with Chi and Ke used as single character abbreviations for Chiu (or Chui) and Kei. There seems to have been a category for Heavy (O, short for Oo), but this is only “confirmed” in the sense that it was the unofficial name given to the 120 ton tank O-I.
The numbering system used was based on the Iroha, a Japanese poem. This used every character from the Japanese syllabary once, and for a long time was used to put those characters in order (in a rather poetic version of the ABC). The first two lines of the poem, transliterated in roman letters, ran:
 
 
i ro ha ni ho he to
chi ri nu ru wo
 
 
If we summarize the naming system:
Chi: Medium
Ke: Light
Ho: Gun (Tank Destroyer)
O: Heavy
 
1- I or Yi
2 – Ro
3 – Ha
4 – Ni
5 – Ho
6 – He
7 – To
8 – Chi
9 – Ri
10 – Nu
11 – Ru
 
12 – O or Wo
Using the medium tanks as an example:
 
Chi-I (Medium First): None (most likely Experimental Type 1 Tank)
Chi-Ro (Medium Second): Type 89 I-Go
Chi-Ha (Medium Third): Type 97 Chi-Ha
Chi-Ni (Medium Fourth): Type 97 Chi-Ni (never got out of prototype status)
Chi-Ho (Medium Fifth) Type 98 Chi-Ho (never got out of prototype status)
Chi-He (Medium Sixth): Type 1 Chi-He
Chi-To (Medium Seventh): Type 4 Chi-To
Chi-Ri (Medium Ninth): Type 5 Chi-Ri
Chi-Nu (Medium Tenth): Type 3 Chi-Nu
 

Taken from: http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/12/06/japanese-tank-nomenclature/

 

I will post some progress pictures in the next couple days, thanks for looking!

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, April 2, 2018 3:27 PM

That is a tremendously informative post. I now know about five times as much about japanese tanks as I did before.

Question: why would the japanese want tanks? Japan certainly isn't tank country, and their amphibious navy wasn't modern.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Australia
Posted by taxtp on Monday, April 2, 2018 7:34 PM

I'm a couple of days late with really getting this thing rolling, as I was away for Easter.

Thanks for all of that terrific inforrmation Hogfan. I knew none of it before your post.

Sailing_Dutchman - I've added you and your Tiger to the roster. Should be good.

I like your Panzer IV conversion Rob, interesting.

Ernest, your T-34 is coming along well.

I've also added another entry for myself. It's a Hasegawa 1/200 Airbus A320. It's been in the 'Box of Doom' for some years. It was a kit that I bought 2nd hand, thinking it was unstarted, but I got it home and saw that someone had joined the fuselage, and forgotten to add a nose weight. Into the box of doom it went...

Now I think I can thread some solder into it, and glue that into the nose, then proceed with the build.

THe decals are for ANA, but they've yellowed, so I'm going to pinch the decals fro mAn Ansett Australia version of the same kit thats also in the stash. Oh well, my airliner collection is all Australian registered aircraft anyway. My 1/32 T-33 is coming along. I'm just about ready to glue the cockpit into the fuselage, but nothing fits at all, haha.

I'll post some photos later today.

Cheers

Tony

 

 

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, April 2, 2018 7:35 PM
I always thought they were for light infantry support GM, hence the size, light guns and armor. I know the Chi-Ha had some run ins with Soviet BT-7 armor in the second Sino-Japanese war.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • From: From the Mit, but live in Mason, O high ho
Posted by hogfanfs on Monday, April 2, 2018 7:41 PM

GMorrison

Question: why would the japanese want tanks? Japan certainly isn't tank country, and their amphibious navy wasn't modern.

Most of the Japanese tank design was done during the 1930's. The tanks they designed (Type 89, Type 94, etc..) were primarily for close infantry support. They used these tanks with great effectiveness in campaigns against the Chinese and Soviets. The tactics they learned from these campaigns they used when invading the Philippines. After they started to face the American M4's in battle they realized they needed a tank that was capable of tank on tank combat. So, the Japanese knew they needed tanks, but, realized too late they needed improved designs, and were not capable of mass producing these vehicle as well as the US.

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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    April 2005
  • From: Australia
Posted by taxtp on Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:44 PM

Here are the startup shots of my Airbus A320. 

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by TheWaggishAmerican on Tuesday, April 3, 2018 10:56 PM

Put me down for the Revell 1/72 P-38, please. It's been sitting on my shelf, mountains of putty on the booms, for more than a year.

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On the Bench- Tamiya 1/48 Raiden, Rufe, Buffalo, He 162; Academy 1/72 F-89, Eduard 1/48 F6F-3, Accurate Miniatures 1/48 F3F-2, Minicraft 1/48 XF5F, Academy 1/35 Hetzer, Zvezda 1/35 KV-2 (Girls Und Panzer)

 

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  • From: Australia
Posted by taxtp on Wednesday, April 4, 2018 7:02 PM
You're on the roster WA, welcome aboard ! Cheers Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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  • From: Australia
Posted by taxtp on Wednesday, April 4, 2018 7:57 PM

Here are some updates for my two projects.

First the Czechmodel 1/32 T-33A...this is the cockpit assembly. The rear IP was too wide to fit into the tub and had to be trimmed. I had trouble finding clear reference photos for the side consoles, which surprised me.

Now the basic assembly of the Hasegawa 1/200 Airbus A320. I've given it a light prime, there are a couple of minor fixes required.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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  • From: From the Mit, but live in Mason, O high ho
Posted by hogfanfs on Sunday, April 8, 2018 7:41 AM

@Tony,

The T-33 office look beautiful. And I like the start on the A320. Lately I've been thinking of looking into the Hasegawa 1/200 commercial jets. 

 

I have some progress to show on the Type 4, so here we go.

Here is the state of the kit as I restarted this shelf queen:

You may notice a few scratches on the mantlet and barrel. 

This was from a sneak attack from a metal 14" flash light. Lesson learned: If I'm going to shelf a model, shelf all the pieces.

Here is how the rubber band tracks look after I have painted them. I was not able to find AM tracks for this particular tank, and the reviews I have read stated the only drawback of this kit is the tracks. Doesn't look like I will get the desired sag, but, we will see.

Generally, late war Japanese armor were painted in three colors. The base color was called Parched Grass, which is a primer. Then a Green Grass color, and a Earth Brown color. These show the process of masking the base color. 

Then adding some preshading

Then adding the Earth Brown color. I should have extended the color more than I did. Noted for future builds.

And here it is with all three colors

I have some clean up to do. I used Vallejo Air Acrylics. and used Blue Tac White for the masking. Overall I'm happy with the outcome. Right now, the jury is out on whether I try the preshading like this again. We'll see after I get some weathering completed.

Thanks for looking! More to come...

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, April 8, 2018 8:33 AM

Tony, I admire anyone whocan pull off Airliners, even ones in military service. Mine never look quite right.

Bruce, great looking FX's

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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    April 2005
  • From: Australia
Posted by taxtp on Sunday, April 8, 2018 9:07 PM

Thanks MC, lets see how this one goes.

Bruce, as an occasional armor modeller, I've very interested in your weathering techniques. Looks good so far. The circular pattern for the pre shading is interesting.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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    April 2005
  • From: Australia
Posted by taxtp on Tuesday, April 10, 2018 6:45 PM

Here' some progress on the A320. The gloss white coat is done, I'll do the decals next.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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    May 2015
Posted by Griffin25 on Tuesday, April 10, 2018 7:55 PM

hogfanfs

@Tony,

The T-33 office look beautiful. And I like the start on the A320. Lately I've been thinking of looking into the Hasegawa 1/200 commercial jets. 

 

I have some progress to show on the Type 4, so here we go.

Here is the state of the kit as I restarted this shelf queen:

You may notice a few scratches on the mantlet and barrel. 

This was from a sneak attack from a metal 14" flash light. Lesson learned: If I'm going to shelf a model, shelf all the pieces.

Here is how the rubber band tracks look after I have painted them. I was not able to find AM tracks for this particular tank, and the reviews I have read stated the only drawback of this kit is the tracks. Doesn't look like I will get the desired sag, but, we will see.

Generally, late war Japanese armor were painted in three colors. The base color was called Parched Grass, which is a primer. Then a Green Grass color, and a Earth Brown color. These show the process of masking the base color. 

Then adding some preshading

Then adding the Earth Brown color. I should have extended the color more than I did. Noted for future builds.

And here it is with all three colors

I have some clean up to do. I used Vallejo Air Acrylics. and used Blue Tac White for the masking. Overall I'm happy with the outcome. Right now, the jury is out on whether I try the preshading like this again. We'll see after I get some weathering completed.

Thanks for looking! More to come...

 

That looks great so far. That masking technique looks like it really works well. Do you cut the masking tape in the center of the poster tack with a blade? I saw that somewhere. 

 

 

Griffin

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  • From: From the Mit, but live in Mason, O high ho
Posted by hogfanfs on Wednesday, April 11, 2018 7:23 AM

Griffin25

That looks great so far. That masking technique looks like it really works well. Do you cut the masking tape in the center of the poster tack with a blade? I saw that somewhere. 

 
Griffin,
 
Thanks! It does work well, but, it was time consuming. I didn't cut the masking tape, I just laid it over the top of the poster tack. The next time I use this technique, I will try a blade. 

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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  • From: From the Mit, but live in Mason, O high ho
Posted by hogfanfs on Wednesday, April 11, 2018 7:31 AM

taxtp

Bruce, as an occasional armor modeller, I've very interested in your weathering techniques. Looks good so far. The circular pattern for the pre shading is interesting.

Cheers

Tony

 

 
Tony, 
 
Thank you. I just ordered some Wilder products, and I'm going to use some of his weathering techniques on this build. 
 
Also, the A320 in gloss white looks perfect. I applaud you for such a fine effort. 
 
 
 
 

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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    May 2015
Posted by Griffin25 on Wednesday, April 11, 2018 12:48 PM

Started putting the M113 back together. Wheels and side skirt. It broke off and took some chunks with it. I'm going to attach the tracks last. I'll staple them then run the joint up under the skirt. Nothing too exciting happening yet. 

 

 

Griffin

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  • From: Northern Virginia
Posted by ygmodeler4 on Wednesday, April 11, 2018 10:00 PM
I have a couple...at least a couple I’m willing to finish...kits to add in. For now I’ll go with an Academy Space Shuttle w/747 Transport. The scale eludes me. It’s basically at the paint stage. Won it in a raffle and started it for my wife (then girlfriend). It’s been relegated to shelf of doom multiple times over a 2 year period and she was asking about it the other day. So I reckon I better finish it soon...

-Josiah

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Posted by Griffin25 on Thursday, April 12, 2018 7:48 PM

I've starting painting. I am noticing I'm missing some small parts, never to be found. I'll have to scratch a few things but I'm not going to worry about it all. This is a third owner apc. It's got issues. 

 

 

Griffin

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    April 2005
  • From: Australia
Posted by taxtp on Friday, April 13, 2018 1:55 AM

Thanks Bruce.

That M113 is looking good Griffin, I'm wiht you on the missing parts.

Josiah, I've added your 747 with Shuttle to the roster, welcome aboard !

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by Griffin25 on Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:18 PM

Still working on the paint. Did a bunch of dry brushing. Going to make some homemade armor around the turret you can see it in gray I still have to paint it to look like raw steel. I made some raw steel looking patches for the numerous holes that I have nothing to put in there and don't want to fill it with putty. I don't know if it's the best idea but.... the armor on M113s is aluminum. It's hard to weld steel to aluminum but it can be done. I'm actually a welding inspector/welding QC in real life. Smile Does anyone know what the inside of the hatch color should be? I need to fix that. Thanks

 

 

Griffin

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    April 2005
  • From: Australia
Posted by taxtp on Monday, April 16, 2018 6:54 PM

It's coming to life Griffin. I don't know what the inside hatch colour on a third owner M113 would be. 

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:02 AM

Griffin25

Does anyone know what the inside of the hatch color should be? I need to fix that. Thanks 

The inside color of the hatch is forest green or OD green if it is an older 70s-80s era vehicle.

Which kit do you have? I have a parts kit M113 that may have some pieces you need.

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:28 AM

Thats coming on nicely Griffin.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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