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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, September 16, 2019 9:59 AM

Welcome back captain, Well done Nick!! I see you had a successful patrol. Tie up to the pier and give the libery call. The liberty chest is open so grab your beverage of choice BeerDrinksToast

Which picture do you want on the wall?

Oh and BTW Capt. I have a little something extra for you for being the first back in port. I'll present it tonight when I get home.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, September 16, 2019 10:05 AM

Bakster
modelcrazy

Also, if your PE set does not come with a radar, there are some nice generic sets that work just fine for a great price. It might take a month to get them though Huh?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ship-Vessels-Detail-Update-PE-1-700-062-WWII-US-Navy-Radar-set-free-shipping/362380872484?hash=item545f954b24:g:Z~sAAOSwezVWwskD

 

 

 

  

Admiral,  I can’t wrap my brain around this. SPS-49 is what I am looking for. Does the PE you linked me to have it? I don‘t see it. Below is what I purchased and unless I need to combine pieces somehow, I don’t think I have it. The radar that Mongoose made looks the animal I need, I think.

http://www.hobbylinc.com/toms-us-fast-battleships-detail-set-iowa,-sd,-nc-class-plastic-model-ship-accessory-1:700-725

Sorry Bakster, when I sugested the radar set I was thinking WW2 Propeller

There are nice sets for the SPS-49 air search radar antenna but they are for 1/350. I did find something that was made for 1/700

https://flagshipmodels.com/products/1-700-scale-modern-warship-radar

The set you ordered is for WW2 so you won't get the modern electronics but there is some very nice PE in the set you can defenatly use.

 

P.S. the set I gave a link to will be very small.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, September 16, 2019 11:15 AM

modelcrazy
P.S. the set I gave a link to will be very small.

You are the man for finding a solution! You mentioned it will be very small... are you saying it might not match the kit piece in size? 

I will need to mull this over, not sure I want to pay $17 for the 1 radar antenna I need. 

Thanks a bunch for your help!

 

 

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Posted by TheMongoose on Monday, September 16, 2019 11:19 AM

Bakster

 

 
modelcrazy
P.S. the set I gave a link to will be very small.

 

You are the man for finding a solution! You mentioned it will be very small... are you saying it might not match the kit piece in size? 

I will need to mull this over, not sure I want to pay $17 for the 1 radar antenna I need. 

Thanks a bunch for your help!

 

 

 

my SPS-49 radar in 1/350 is about 1” across and 3/4” deep. In 1/700 lets say its 1/2” across and 3/8” deep then.

In the pattern: Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! leaning out the list...NOT! Ha, added to it again - Viper MkVii, 1/32 THUD & F-15J plus a weekend madness build!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, September 16, 2019 2:31 PM

Like Mongoose said. The actual tree will also be about 3x2 or so. Makes one think about the price Confused

Steve

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, September 16, 2019 3:16 PM

modelcrazy

Like Mongoose said. The actual tree will also be about 3x2 or so. Makes one think about the price Confused

 

Yup. I don’t mind paying for something as long as I am not bending over in the process, and with this, I feel like I am when I consider what I’d get. I am not overly impressed with the radar either. I really appreciate you searching that out me though. It is a nice find considering I couldn’t find anything!

Maybe I can fabricate something using the PE I have. I will look at that next.

Thanks again...

 

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  • From: Michigan
Posted by Straycat1911 on Monday, September 16, 2019 5:09 PM

Well, after doing a little more research I decided she’s going to be Z5 (D170) formerly known as USS Dyson.

Her claim to fame under American colors was being part of DesRon 23, Arleigh Burke’s Little Beavers. For her service in WWII, she received a Presidential Unit Citation plus 11 battle stars. 

She served the German Navy between 1969 and 1982, then was transferred to Greece to provide spare parts for other ships. She met her end in 1993 being broken up for scrap. 

Her Wikipedia entry:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Dyson_(DD-572)

 

Deck has been installed:

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, September 16, 2019 6:09 PM

Hey Nick, congrats on the PT. It looks great!

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Posted by TheMongoose on Monday, September 16, 2019 8:37 PM

Ok guys looking for some input here - i was thinking the rust stains from the bilge holes would mellow out after putting a flat clear on it, but it didn’t. Take a look at these and tell me if they need to be lighter, or if i can do something to make them more realistic? Used 3 colors when doing it. Put on a drop and then pulled it down. Tried to keep the brush damp but not dry or wet. 

 

Heres a few more pics. Hey what would a group build be without tons of pic right! I sprayed clear yellow, i think 3 coats, along the whole bottom width. Then went back and sprayed brown down the center. These re with the clear coat on it. Let me know what you think?

I looked through some other builds and tried to duplicate some methods. In the end it’s about how the effect comes across so very interested in your thoughts and ideas on weathering.

chris

In the pattern: Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! leaning out the list...NOT! Ha, added to it again - Viper MkVii, 1/32 THUD & F-15J plus a weekend madness build!

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  • From: the redlands Fl
Posted by crown r n7 on Monday, September 16, 2019 10:48 PM

Great looking ship! What I use are a combination of Orange, brown and red chalk slowly build up for desire affect it’s what I used on my gato sub.

 

 

 

 Nick.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, September 16, 2019 10:52 PM

Mongoose,

I usually prefer to use oils for weathering ships. Burnt sienna for light or running rust and burnt umber for old rust, thinned withs some Turpenoid and allowed to just run. It can be wiped off and redone if needed. For the hull fading I use light vertical coats of grey for a hint of wear.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, September 16, 2019 11:04 PM

crown r n7

For the first completed build, you are hereby presented with the Navy commendation ribbon.

I put your build on the wall, and make sure you grab a badge. It was fun to have you aboard sir and again, fantastic job.

Make sure you see us next year for the German ships GB starting Aug 2020.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, September 16, 2019 11:29 PM

modelcrazy
I usually prefer to use oils for weathering ships. Burnt sienna for light or running rust and burnt umber for old rust, thinned withs some Turpenoid and allowed to just run. It can be wiped off and redone if needed. For the hull fading I use light vertical coats of grey for a hint of wear.

Steve, your example looks really good. I am taking notes.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 12:00 AM

I do the same, but use the acrylic versions of those paints over Future, heavily diluted in Turpenoid.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Boston
Posted by mach71 on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 6:49 AM

TheMongoose

Ok guys looking for some input here - i was thinking the rust stains from the bilge holes would mellow out after putting a flat clear on it, but it didn’t. Take a look at these and tell me if they need to be lighter, or if i can do something to make them more realistic? Used 3 colors when doing it. Put on a drop and then pulled it down. Tried to keep the brush damp but not dry or wet. 

 

Heres a few more pics. Hey what would a group build be without tons of pic right! I sprayed clear yellow, i think 3 coats, along the whole bottom width. Then went back and sprayed brown down the center. These re with the clear coat on it. Let me know what you think?

I looked through some other builds and tried to duplicate some methods. In the end it’s about how the effect comes across so very interested in your thoughts and ideas on weathering.

chris

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It looks a tad heavy to me, but I'm not a ship guy. 

 

Looking at the size of your ship and the level of detail, I'm just amazed! 

Great job so far.

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  • From: Boston
Posted by mach71 on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 6:54 AM

crown r n7

The Revell out of the box PT boat is done .This kit brought back many a memory thank you for all your comments and for watching.

painted with tamiya field gray and hull red. weathering with masters touch oil paint and chalks.

 

 

Congratulations!

1st to the dock and a comendation! Well done sir.

 

 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 9:29 AM

Mongoose, as far as the heavyness it's really how you want to portray her. Yes the Navy work hard to keep rust down but sea water, waves and wind take a serious toll on steel, paint and wood. You just can't always get the deck apes over the side in Boatwain's chairs to needle gun and repaint while underway. However, once in port, over the side they go!

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • From: the redlands Fl
Posted by crown r n7 on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:30 AM

Thank you Admiral sir. Lots of fun not as sophisticated as Mongoose,mach71 or bakster. I do like very much how PE looks on ships and yes Im in for the german ship GB .

this was very much out of my comfort zone....Crying

again thank you for your comments and for watching. (hope i didnt leave anyone out)

 

 

 Nick.

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 11:22 AM

Nick: Beautiful job there on your PT boat!!! And congrads on being to first to cross the finish line. 

 

Great work all around guys, don't want to leave anyone out. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: the redlands Fl
Posted by crown r n7 on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 11:39 AM

Gamera many thanks my friend it’s my ADD I try to keep it in checkIndifferent

 

 

 Nick.

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  • From: Boston
Posted by mach71 on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:23 PM

Finally got some bench time. 

The semi gloss black paint.

 

 

So far it looks good. I hope to get a coat of red on the bottom tomorrow.

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  • From: the redlands Fl
Posted by crown r n7 on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:30 PM

Nice Cool 

 

 

 Nick.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:37 PM

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by Ted4321 on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:59 PM

Oooh she sure looks sharp mach

Yes

 

 

T e d

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 11:24 AM

Yeah, that does look good Mach71 esp after all the krap you went though to get there! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Boston
Posted by mach71 on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 12:28 PM

Thanks!

 

The red went on today. It needs a few touch-ups, but so far I'm happy with it.

 

 

 

I have PE 4 tie downs from the Seaview kit I'll add. 

I've been fooling around with a few things to make the lower bow sensor. So far I'm 

not happy with anything I've come up with.

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Posted by TheMongoose on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 4:05 PM

mach71

Thanks!

 

The red went on today. It needs a few touch-ups, but so far I'm happy with it.

 

 

 

OHHH THAT LOOKS SHARP!

In the pattern: Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! leaning out the list...NOT! Ha, added to it again - Viper MkVii, 1/32 THUD & F-15J plus a weekend madness build!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 5:08 PM

TheMongoose
OHHH THAT LOOKS SHARP!

Ditto

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 7:26 PM

Very nice, Mach. Yes

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Posted by mach71 on Thursday, September 19, 2019 6:41 AM

Thanks! 

Now it's all the little things that are left to do.

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