Bakster: That looks good! I too think you've got it!!! 

Just for fun I did find this: a board taken from the teak decking of the USS North Carolina in 1999 for the refubishment that I bought. Not sure it would be any help at all- considering it's from a fifty year old deck tramped across by millions of tourists...

That ink does look good. Let it set for a day or two, then lightly sand because the USN would have those decks honed and I miss the yellow.

Nick..PT looking good.

Bakster.. I like that a lot.  Think I'd leave it alone now.  Good job

Bakster

 Bakster

I have doubts about this, mainly because the decking seems to have a coating that is non-porous. My fear is that it will be like the stain, it won't stick.

 I just had a thought. I wonder what would happen if I sprayed a layer of Dullcote. Maybe that would give the pastel something to sink it's teeth into. As is, the coating on the deck seems to be a hard gloss.

Spitballing. 

I have a few things I can try. Worst case, I leave it as is and move on.

 

Nick, fantastic job on the PT

That is looking sweet 

By golly, I think I've got it!

This is what I was looking for. I was able to create a cast of gray whilst maintaining the wood detail below it.

And I did it with this...

This so-called ink lays down a translucent layer. It was so easy to put down. I had this in my stash from another project, I thought I'd give it a try.

Nick, I love seeing the 109 come together. You are moving along fast. 

Thanks about the planking. I made a breakthrough tonight; I will post shortly.

mach71

Your welcome.

 

I didin't think much would be useful, but it is the same class.

 

I'd love the see any photos you might have taken, they sound cool.

Nick: She looks sharp, I'd be tempted to run her around a swimming pool...

TB: Now that sounds interesting!!

Your welcome.

I didin't think much would be useful, but it is the same class.

thanks guy's for your comments.

TB the fitzgerald thats is intresting in card stock?

Bakster good luck with that planking.

latest pics on pt boat.

TB, the Fitzgerald would be great. I've never tried a card model before but think they look great when done.

I'll get you on the roster tonight. 

Oh Funny;

  I am getting to this one late. How about the S.S.Edmund Fitzgerald? A card Model for sure.The company makes quite a few lakers. Tanker Builder

Bakster: I've got some photos of the USS Wisconsin somewhere, I need to find them but keep forgetting. Going out to Norfolk/Virginia Beach on vacation in November, if you need any photos I'll see about taking them for you.

Nick: That PT boat is looking sharp!!! 

Bakster

I have doubts about this, mainly because the decking seems to have a coating that is non-porous. My fear is that it will be like the stain, it won't stick.

I just had a thought. I wonder what would happen if I sprayed a layer of Dullcote. Maybe that would give the pastel something to sink it's teeth into. As is, the coating on the deck seems to be a hard gloss.

Spitballing. 

I have a few things I can try. Worst case, I leave it as is and move on.

modelcrazy

Bakster, like GM said, you have to be careful about it. It's the nuclear option if you will. Use pastel powder and lightly brush it on. Decks get worn with constant sea water and traffic, but are pretty tough. The world learned a thing or two from centuries of sailing. If the deck is painted, ie. American ships then the paint will wear off in high traffic areas but the deck apes, or the "Boats" rather, will get them on it to repaint. It takes a lot of time during transient from one duty station to another. The hull is a different matter. You can't get a lot of guys over the rail in boatswains chairs to needle gun and paint underway.

If you use a pastel in a color you trying to achieve it might just work. 

 

I guess I will try the pastels next. I have doubts about this, mainly because the decking seems to have a coating that is non-porous. My fear is that it will be like the stain, it won't stick. Pastels are cheap enough though, so it won't hurt to try it.

modelcrazy

 

 

GMorrison

the deck division

 

 

That's why they're called deck apes. 

 

mach71

Bakster,

Work will take me to Honolulu today. I could pop over to Pearl and visit the USS Missouri and get some reference photos for you if you want. Just let me know what you need.

 

I know she has been refitted many times, but there might be something useful.

 

Bakster, like GM said, you have to be careful about it. It's the nuclear option if you will. Use pastel powder and lightly brush it on. Decks get worn with constant sea water and traffic, but are pretty tough. The world learned a thing or two from centuries of sailing. If the deck is painted, ie. American ships then the paint will wear off in high traffic areas but the deck apes, or the "Boats" rather, will get them on it to repaint. It takes a lot of time during transient from one duty station to another. The hull is a different matter. You can't get a lot of guys over the rail in boatswains chairs to needle gun and paint underway.

If you use a pastel in a color you trying to achieve it might just work. 

GMorrison

the deck division

That's why they're called deck apes. 

Bakster,

Work will take me to Honolulu today. I could pop over to Pearl and visit the USS Missouri and get some reference photos for you if you want. Just let me know what you need.

I know she has been refitted many times, but there might be something useful.

When I use pastels, they are a powder. Kind of like ground chalk. Use a brush that will never have another use and kind of grind it in.

Weathering ships is a trick because they don't get dirty other than the upper parts from smoke, which gets really dirty. but they get salty and rusty and chipped up if operating in an icy climate where the ice gets chipped off by the deck division.

modelcrazy

Bakster, I wonder if you try some pastels. They usually work for me for weathering.

Are you talking about colored pencils? Or pastel sticks? Interesting idea, tell me more.

goldhammer

I wonder if they sealed it with something.

 

Coming right along Crown

Bakster, I wonder if you try some pastels. They usually work for me for weathering.

I wonder if they sealed it with something.

Well, I am a bit underwhelmed:

A= Old Master Aged Oak on actual wood stock. The stain soaked into the wood immediately and beautifully.

B= Dry brushed using Tamiya Sky Gray Acrylic thinned way down. I thought it was worth a try.

C= Dry brushed undiluted Sky Gray Acrylic. I thought is was worth a try.

D= Old Master Aged Oak on decking. I am disappointed with the stains performance here. The decking would not absorb it. I "soaked" this spot several times and the stain mostly comes off. You can see some coloration but it's not much. 

E= Zars Coastal Board. This seem to colorize better but you lose a lot of detail.

If you have any thoughts, I'd like to hear them. Not sure what I think of this yet.

Crown 7, the PT boat is looking sweet!

Crown n7,

That boat sure is looking sharp.  I'm taking notes on your techniques. 

T e d

mach71 its taking shape nicely.

the latset pt pics. the decals are on the wash is done,working on algae hull line and clear flat.