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Viet Nam War Aircraft Group Build

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, April 17, 2020 10:47 PM

Here's what berny said:

"The proper loadout for Showtime 100 on their MIG killing mission is as follows.

One centerline 600 gallon tank

Two AIM-7E Sparrow missiles on the aft missile wells.  The forward missile wells were empty.

Inboard pylons loaded with TER's and 6 MK-20 Mod 1 Rockeyes.

Four AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles.

Outboard wing stations empty.  No tanks or pylons were carried.

The biggest defugity (Defined in the senior NCO dictionary as Something Ain't Right) were the markings.  The black triangle at the base of the vertical stab is shown with and without the MIG-21 outline.  No one can say for a fact it was or wasn't there.  The centerline tank is another problem as what type of markings were carried.  Some say the tank had a black stripe painted on it.  Most say the stripe was not there and had VF-96 painted on the tank.  Some say no markings were carried on the tank at all.   

 

Berny"

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Michigan
Posted by silentbob33 on Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:59 PM

Fantastic paintwork guys!

I finally got all the decals on the Tweet.  I forgot to paint the colors at the tip of the tail, so instead of trying to mask over decals I painted it by hand.  It isn't perfect, but it's good enough for me.

I also have things for under the wings ready for decals too.

On my bench: Academy 1/35 UH-60L Black Hawk

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  • From: the redlands Fl
Posted by crown r n7 on Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:49 PM

Really looking good  !!!

 

 

 Nick.

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Posted by ikar01 on Saturday, April 18, 2020 10:17 PM

Always kinda liked the 6,000 pound dog whistles.

We used to have the Thai A.F. fly them in every so often to refuel on their way for a strike mission.

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, April 19, 2020 11:28 AM

Started the weathering on upper surfaces yesterday...

 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by crown r n7 on Sunday, April 19, 2020 11:45 AM

Oh the fun part! I like weathering

 

 

 Nick.

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Posted by oortiz10 on Monday, April 20, 2020 5:16 PM

OK gang, I have some progress to share. Not much, but some.

The biggest hurdle with my Skyhawk was getting that slat strut fixed. I spent a little time working on it, and I'm happy with the way it turned out.

I think once the slat's installed, it will look fine. I can still see that it's not a perfect fix, but of course I think it's because the picture is zoomed and blown up. From normal viewing distances, things look OK. 

I started doing some decal work on both airframes. The A-7 is pretty much done except for some tiny stencils.

I noticed that one of the decals moved while it was drying. It's the plane number on the right side of the nose. It's not super-obvious, but I did see it. If you're not looking for it, you should (hopefully) overlook it.

My Skyhawk has most of the decals on. I'm waiting on the few remaining because I still need to paint the anti-glare panel on the nose. I figured it'd be easier to mask without having to worry about decals.

I'm not super happy with the way the national insignia settled over the vortex generators on the left wing's top, so I may need to sand some wrinkles out and touch-up with paint.

While the decals are drying and settling, I'm working on the ordnance. First, I drilled out all the sway braces for the Skyhawk. While dry-fitting, I noticed that the little "nubs" wouldn't be enough to hold the assemblies together. So, I'll use wire that runs up through the sway braces into the pylon(s).

I'm also using wire run through the A-7's Sidewinder rails to hold everything together.

Nice and strong!

I also added some wire to the A-7's struts to make it more robust. The "trailing" strut that makes up the main gear's "triangle" was just a butt-joint assembly. I wanted to make sure it would stand the test of time.

So, I'm going to spend some time with the fiddly-bits in preparation for the turn towards home.

As usual, comments, questions, and criticisms welcome.

Cheers!

-O

-It's Omar, but they call me "O".

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Monday, April 20, 2020 7:33 PM

Looking good there... but I think you’re something of a madman with all that drilling and pining....

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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  • From: Between LA and OC, SoCal
Posted by oortiz10 on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 2:01 PM

AW CRUD!

I need some feedback here, FSM...

OK, so I have been working on my Skyhawks decals for the last few nights. I decided to leave the stabilizers off to help make room while I worked with the rudder's striping. Well, when I went to apply THE LAST TWO stencils, the markings that show the decflection of the stabilizers, I dry-fitted the stabilizers to line up the decals and...

GRRR!

I noticed that I applied the MARINES markings too far aft!

 

Really, my only two options are to sand, repaint, and reapply...

OR

Leave it.

What do you think? 

 

-It's Omar, but they call me "O".

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Posted by jmoran426 on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 2:06 PM
Omar! Bummer, Dude! I've done the same thing though. I think Plan A is the only solution. No Marine maintenance man would let that go. Wash, rinse, repeat!

jmoran426

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Posted by JacknewbIII on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 3:30 PM

Nice work Stik and oortiz! Looking really good over here. I agree with Stik on the stabilizing because I don't have that kind of dedication!

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Posted by keavdog on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 5:57 PM

Bummer on the decals.  Have you sealed them yet?  

Stik, that green pops!

Thanks,

John

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 9:19 PM

Omar, I’m with JM on correcting the decals. I hope you have some spare Marine markings.

Jack, thank you. This one is getting there.

John, no green on my A-7. Just blue and some red.

 

For the past few days I’ve been fiddling with the weathering on this one. Add here, dial it back there. I am now at the point where I’m gonna stop while I’m ahead with the weathering. I want this one to look well used, and I think that I’m there now....

 

 

 

Next up, top coats, final detail painting, and adding the last bits such as wheels and ordnance...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:24 AM

Whoops - wrong A7.  Sorry about that Stik.  Sharkmouth is cool on the big mouth birds.  That is a dirty working bird indeed!

Thanks,

John

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  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:10 AM

oortiz10

AW CRUD!

I need some feedback here, FSM...

OK, so I have been working on my Skyhawks decals for the last few nights. I decided to leave the stabilizers off to help make room while I worked with the rudder's striping. Well, when I went to apply THE LAST TWO stencils, the markings that show the decflection of the stabilizers, I dry-fitted the stabilizers to line up the decals and...

GRRR!

I noticed that I applied the MARINES markings too far aft!

 

 

 

Really, my only two options are to sand, repaint, and reapply...

OR

Leave it.

What do you think?

At least Omar's not considering photoshopping itBig Smile

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:45 AM

keavdog

Whoops - wrong A7.  Sorry about that Stik.  Sharkmouth is cool on the big mouth birds.  That is a dirty working bird indeed!

 

Thanks John. And yes, the A-7 could get pretty dirty underneath in sustained combat ops

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:52 AM

I vote Plan A.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, April 24, 2020 1:33 PM

If you haven't read this, "Bury US Upside Down", the story of Operation Commando Sabre. "Misty" pilots. They flew FAC over the HCM Trail in F-100F's.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:07 PM

GMorrison

If you haven't read this, "Bury US Upside Down", the story of Operation Commando Sabre. "Misty" pilots. They flew FAC over the HCM Trail in F-100F's.

 

Yes that’s one that I’d love to read. And I need a F-100F in my collection too!

 

This morning, before the heat really turned on here, I did the final airbrush session for this kit. Undersurface of the wings with a semi gloss topcoat, side whites and upper whites in satin topcoat , both to replicate the effect of weathering on the original gloss white paint. And another dash of flat coat to selected gray areas to better replicate tropical sun and salt water air effect. I also  removed the masks off the radome and canopy.

Here is a sneak peak...

 

 

This build won’t place in any contests unless I’m up against my grade school self, but it will look decent enough from a foot or two away in my collection.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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    May 2004
  • From: Land of Lakes
Posted by cbaltrin on Saturday, April 25, 2020 6:06 PM

stikpusher

 

 
GMorrison

If you haven't read this, "Bury US Upside Down", the story of Operation Commando Sabre. "Misty" pilots. They flew FAC over the HCM Trail in F-100F's.

 

 

 

Yes that’s one that I’d love to read. And I need a F-100F in my collection too!

 

 

Ditto that. Almost bought that book a few weeks ago!

 

Stik, Corsair looks great.  Looks like u r going to beat me to the finish line yet again. 

Actually, have not felt like modeling much lately with all the nonsense going on in the world, but I think I mightjust sit down at the bench tonight and try to get the hun done...we'll see how it goes though!

On the Bench: Too Much

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, April 25, 2020 6:25 PM

Thanks CB. I’m gonna try to get more work done around sundown when it cools off some here. 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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    December 2002
  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Saturday, April 25, 2020 6:35 PM

Stik, if I only had even near perfect models in my display cases, they'd be empty!Surprise

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, April 26, 2020 1:08 AM

jeaton01

Stik, if I only had even near perfect models in my display cases, they'd be empty!Surprise

 

John, I have yet to build one anywhere near perfect... They all have gigs. I know where the bodies are buried... lol!

Ok, I’m at the 99% completed mark now. I reached that point this evening just before sundown. Tomorrow I just need to paint the navigation lights and that pretty much it. These photos will do for now.

 

 

 

After I paint the lights I’ll get some all around photos...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Sunday, April 26, 2020 2:48 AM

Looks great Carlos.  Super clear glass always helps.   Nice job on one of my favorite birds!  I have the 1/48 Hasegawa kit in the stash.  Well done.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by jmoran426 on Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:26 AM
Looks great! A believable replica of a hard working warbird. In the Ocala National Forest, the Navy has a bombing range that served the Jacksonville Marine and fleet training. On the edge of the range was an observation tower that got you above the trees. The A-7s were regulars to the range, mostly the Marines from Craig Field, but also the carrier birds at Mayport. They would circle the range at 300 ft. AGL lining up for their strafing and bombing runs. It was neat to watch as they went by, their little white helmets bobbing in the canopy as they went by at about 300 kts. From the tower, you could barely see their run to the target until they got to the top of the final arch over the target. Now a lot of them have been retired to display duty, one of them at the High Springs Middle School.

jmoran426

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, April 26, 2020 10:56 AM

John and JM, thank you for your kind words. This turned out better than I thought that it would at some points of this project. 

John I have the Hasegawa kit as well. After this one, I am looking forward to the Hasegawa kit one day.

JM, I crossed paths a few times with A-7s in my service career. Their drivers were good, and I sure would not have wanted to be on the receiving end of their fury in combat.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, April 26, 2020 4:15 PM

 

After looking across every A-7 Vietnam war photo that I could find online, I settled on the warload modeled as it had the TERs and Mk.82s, as in this kit, but also some Rockeye CBUs and Shrike ARMs for a nice variety of weapons that is historically accurate for the time. The Shrikes and Rockeyes came from Hasegawa weapon sets.

As for the aircraft itself, I chose VA-93 because I really liked the sharkmouth markings, and because they flew the A-7B for three deployments in Vietnam between 1970 and the cease fire in 1973. In particular I wanted to model an aircraft from the Linebacker period. I was able to track down a website with information on all A-7s built, their Buereau of Aeronautics numbers, squadron assignments with Modex if known, and fate. From a few decal sheets I was able to cobble together markings for this aircraft NF 314 Bu.No. 154506. Originally assigned to VA-125 when built, it was transferred to VA-93 on USS Midway in 1972, likely when she was sent back to line in response to North Vietnam’s “Easter Offensive” in spring 1972. Not quite yet six months after they had returned from their last combat cruise aboard USS Midway in November 1971. After a short period at Dixie Station off South Vietnam flying against the NVA ground forces, USS Midway and VA-93 moved north to Yankee Station and participated in Operation Linebacker strikes from early May 1972 throughout the summer, and into the fall of 1972. NF 314/154506’s luck ran out six months later on November 10, 1972 while flying armed reconnaissance. Damaged by AAA, the pilot was able to guide the mortally wounded aircraft out over the Gulf of Tonkin where he successfully ejected and was rescued. One of three, and the final, combat loss for VA-93 during Operation Linebacker.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for looking, comments and critiques are welcome

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, April 26, 2020 5:40 PM

That's a worthy addition to the GB, Carlos, and a great writeup, but then I would expect that of you.  Well done, yer on the Wall.  Let me know if you would like a different photo than the one I choose and I'll swap them.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, April 26, 2020 5:59 PM

Thank you John. And for you hosting this GB. The photo of chose is perfectly good for the wall. I’m glad that you liked the write up. I love it when we can turn up that sort of information. I felt it rather appropriate as this was just another aerial workhorse that flew and fell during the long air war. And with the good ending of rescue for the pilot.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, April 26, 2020 9:41 PM

Yes, the rescue makes it all the better.  Not like Robbie Risner's wingman in the Korean War.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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