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Posted by EricB on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 3:42 PM
MC You by chance doing the 1/350 Hasegawa Akagi? Looks like a great kit that might take two years to build. Eric
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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 3:42 PM

Looking good BK, like the colour.

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 3:41 PM

Glad to have you on board Eric, i will get you added.

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Posted by EricB on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 3:28 PM

 

Hi all

 As Finescale has decided to restore the email link between the Group Build and my computer, I'll report in. I decided to build the new tool 1/35 Tamiya Valentine. I was thinking of a Asuka/Tasca Firefly, but it would have been a more complex build, I'm under a little time pressure and the build already has a Firefly. Here it is:

  kit by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 Here is what it's supposed to represent:

  ValPic1 by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 This is a very interesting kit. First, the tank itself was very small – not much bigger than the Panzer II, although better armored and heavier – figure 16-17 tons. The last tank I built was the Tamiya SU-76 and the kits are very similar in size. This is not a simple kit – part count is 250+, and a modeler is well advised to follow the instructions because the build sequence very important because the hull is made of separate pieces.

 That said, this might be the best engineered model I've ever built. (I'm not done yet, and troubles may lurk, but I doubt it.) In all seriousness, the fit is so good that I could have made almost all of this kit with white glue. I'm working on the pretty complex multi-part suspension now and the thing just clicks onto the side. Amazing really. Tamiya's recent kits all have very thin sprue gates – thanks to my very neat Tamiya long blade nippers, I deal with very little clean-up. And the detail can't be faulted. (Lots of it underneath if you can figure out how to show it.) It's done with link and length tracks which probably aren't needed if you build the British version because, judging from online WWII pics, almost all of the desert Valentines wore the big sand skirts which will hide the sag created by the complex tracks. Many Valentines ended up in Russia (where they were very popular) and there are no skirts there. I'd build the Russian configuration – except that wouldn't fit a British Army Group Build very well.

 Phil Flory did a kit review on YouTube and he did a lot of close up examination of parts showing crisply molded pieces that look like they're two pieces (and would be two or three pieces if Dragon made this kit.) Flory concludes that Tamiya is feeling competition from Meng, Takom etc, and decided to remind the world that they still make the best models available. I am a hard-core Tamiya fan, and can't disagree and give this kit highest recommendation. BTW – Tamiya also put out a version of the Archer – a self-propelled tank killer built on the Valentine frame mounting a 17 pounder. To mount the huge gun on the little frame, it was necessary to mount it pointing backward – looks neat. Anyway, here are two pics showing progress so far. A detail pic shows some of the splendid detail.

  body1 - Copy by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

  detail1 by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 More soon.

 Eric

 

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Posted by BrandonK on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 2:51 PM

At this point I have completed the major painting portion, only need to start the small amount of hand painting some details and begin some minor weathering, clear and then decals. I painted this UK Light Sand on the upper hull and side armor, the skirts and lower hull are painted Irag Sand to break up the monotone and help with future weathering to the Irag desert buildup on the lower skirts and hull. More to come.

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Posted by jgeratic on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 10:27 AM

Firefly won't be going into the GB, won't be tackling it this year.  

Already got custom printed decals for it, Canadian 1st Hussars vehicle that came ashore during the Normandy invasion.  In the first five days of landing, the vehicle accounted for 7 enemy tanks - 5 Panthers and 2 Panzer IV's, all belonging to the 12th SS.  No photo appears to exist, but literature/war diaries do include a nick name COMTESSE de FEU (countess of fire) and was first vehicle of third troop, C Squadron.  Only unknown is the WD number.

My Canadian studies indicate the .50 cal seems to have been carried initially for the landings but soon removed after, usually replaced with a .30 cal.

Nothing to report build wise on the Humber Scout.  Was working on another build that requires some custom PE, so working on a PE sheet and have included some things for the Scout to make things easier for me.  Bish, I wonder if you have any experience with the company since they are in Scotland: https://ppdltd.com/

 

 

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Jack

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 6:30 AM

Look forward to seeing that one jack. Will you be adding it to the list along with the Scout car.

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 6:29 AM

Sounds like it was caught in the nick of time PJ. I really should post builds over there. I have signed up but not posted in ages.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 12:27 AM

jgeratic

 

 
plasticjunkie

 

 

Which bug did you order Jack

 

 

 

 

this one:

 

 

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That will be much better and more detailed than the Dragon Vc. The box art shows it has sand skirts. Some had it, others were missing them. One thing I noticed was not many bugs with the .50. I took the one on mine off since I was also told the Brits rarely mounted them on their tanks.

Remember to double check the unit markings to verify accuracy so you won’t experience what I did . 

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Posted by jgeratic on Monday, August 3, 2020 11:42 PM

plasticjunkie

 

 

Which bug did you order Jack

 

 

this one:

 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Monday, August 3, 2020 11:06 PM

jgeratic

oooh PJ, that was harsh, I hope the members there were at least friendly about pointing out the corrections.

 

Speaking of the Firefly, I ordered the Rye Field Model from Australia back on April 17th.  Today just received notification it arrived in the port of Vancouver. Surprise

 

regards,

Jack

 

It was ok but direct and informative. The corrections are really very easy to do requiring some minor touch ups. They are up to speed with the minutest details.

It's my fault for not checking things out specially Dragon that is well known for this. 

Which bug did you order Jack?

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Posted by jgeratic on Monday, August 3, 2020 10:50 PM

oooh PJ, that was harsh, I hope the members there were at least friendly about pointing out the corrections.

 

Speaking of the Firefly, I ordered the Rye Field Model from Australia back on April 17th.  Today just received notification it arrived in the port of Vancouver. Surprise

 

regards,

Jack

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Monday, August 3, 2020 9:29 PM

I posted my build on Armorama and several members familiar with the Sherman Firefly schooled me on Allakeefek's markings which Dragon TOTALLY screwed up. The provided divisional and squadron markings are WAY off, belonging to the 27th Armored Brigade. The correct ones are the 22nd AB of the 7th AD. The 27th was never near Villers Bocage. This Firefly is also missing the partial sand skirts which it had when captured at VB. It's also missing a T number on the left side of the hull. Also missing is a small metal box attached to the right rear of the large metal storage locker. It did not have any divisional markings on the back but only the front. The turret did not have a pistol port which I easily removed. I'm in the process of scratch building the sand skirts and correcting the divisional markings.

I will post pictures of the corrected Allakeefek once it's completed. I usually double check my references before I start but neglected to do so this time. Angry

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Sunday, August 2, 2020 8:25 AM

Thanks GS. The Asuka (formerly Tasca)  looks to be more detailed and hopefully better fitting than the Dragon. I have a Tasca  M4A1 in the stash and it looks pretty sweet. 

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Posted by GreySnake on Sunday, August 2, 2020 7:47 AM
Bish, I’m in awe at the Warrior very nicely done. I really like the weathering you did it brings everything together on it. I’m really liking the base as well.
 
PJ, amazing work on the Firefly! You did a much better job on the Firefly then the one I did. I hope my Asuka one when built will look as good as yours. I really like the weathering on the lower hull.
 
BK, how do you do it? It takes me three days just to sand out road wheels it seems like.   
 
I’ve started work on the Sherman again. Not very exciting but I did fold out some of the photo etch a few days ago.
 
I have yet to solder the pieces together. Going to “try” to make some progress in the next couple of days and get the photo etch done.
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Posted by plasticjunkie on Saturday, August 1, 2020 8:21 PM

Thanks Jack!

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Posted by jgeratic on Saturday, August 1, 2020 3:33 PM

Pj, great looking Firefly! Yes

 

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For those interested in British aerial lengths for the no.19 wireless radio set, B mast (that's the one with the raised circular guard at it's base), would be 24 inches, though some sources quote 20 inches.

The A mast would be made up of 4 foot lengths that screwed into one another, and were available in three diameters.  Usually the mid size would be doubled up when using an 8 foot aerial.

 

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, August 1, 2020 1:21 PM

Thanks Steve. It will be worth the wait.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, August 1, 2020 1:10 PM

Bish, my detail set should be in on the 10th. I'll start on the Apache when we return from holiday. I know it's not a big deal but I thought I'd give a heads up. 

Steve

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, August 1, 2020 10:49 AM

Very impressive BK. I thouught my 109 was going quick. Looking good.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Friday, July 31, 2020 5:46 PM

Thanks Steve.

Wow BK that is a record!!

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Posted by BrandonK on Friday, July 31, 2020 5:32 PM

Well, I gotta say this is a record for me. I built the whole kit in 3 days. Now I can begin priming and painting.

BK

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:44 PM

plasticjunkie

 

 
Bish

PJ, there is a set of Star Decals of a Ic hybrid with the scheme i think your after.

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/star-decals-35-c1172-sherman-firefly--1158860

 

 

 

 

 

Tha's the same sheet I had. If you recall some pages back in the GB, I had a bad experience with them on my Firefly. I contacted Star Decals and explained what hapenned and was assured it was a bad set and was sent a replacement set direct from Sweden. One heck of fantastic customer service. The set I was sent I asked for a different Sherman build so I'm hopeful those decals will be ok when I eventually use them. 

Also the one in the sheet is for  a Hybrid 1c and the one I have is the welded hull 1c which is different but thanks for your suggestion.

 

Wasn't sure if it would be the same type. the only ones i could find on scalemates with that scheme were Vc's or Ic Hybrids.

Ye, i remember your issue with the decals, good they sorted you out, thats nice to know.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:36 PM

Bish

PJ, there is a set of Star Decals of a Ic hybrid with the scheme i think your after.

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/star-decals-35-c1172-sherman-firefly--1158860

 

 

 

Tha's the same sheet I had. If you recall some pages back in the GB, I had a bad experience with them on my Firefly. I contacted Star Decals and explained what hapenned and was assured it was a bad set and was sent a replacement set direct from Sweden. One heck of fantastic customer service. The set I was sent I asked for a different Sherman build so I'm hopeful those decals will be ok when I eventually use them. 

Also the one in the sheet is for  a Hybrid 1c and the one I have is the welded hull 1c which is different but thanks for your suggestion.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:34 PM

Excelent Firefly PJ. You must have put that up just before I got the Apache up so I didn't notice.

 

BTW, I also ordered the gun Bish. Wink

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:08 PM

PJ, there is a set of Star Decals of a Ic hybrid with the scheme i think your after.

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/star-decals-35-c1172-sherman-firefly--1158860

 

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Posted by Sergeant on Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:06 PM

Gamera977

 Hello Harold, that would be me. Great job there on your M4, the tracks and the replacement antenna look great. Sorry, I haven't commented on anything in the armour forum as yet since there's three weeks of posts and I just don't have the time at work. I need to sit down some evening and go through everything I've missed. 

 

Gamera I was starting to wonder, thought maybe you went on vacation or something. You have been so active in the Forums I missed your imput. I am glad you are back online and doing well.

Harold

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, July 30, 2020 12:41 PM

Thanks Bish, BK and Gamera. Glad you guys like how the bug came out. I have another Firefly in the stash but it's a 1c and currently looking for decals with markings that had the squiggly white barrel/muzzle scheme. I think it looks super cool and way different.

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Posted by BrandonK on Thursday, July 30, 2020 12:24 PM

Wow, PJ, that Firefly...holy cow, it's stunning. Well done and perfect weathering.

BK

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:15 AM

Yes

Got it, as well as the masks. I'll look into the barrel.

Steve

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