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Japanese Group Build XII

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Posted by GreySnake on Wednesday, January 18, 2023 1:06 PM

RG, I could make an educated guess that the Japanese were worried about the Soviets making super heavy tanks and having to face them eventuall. The Battle of Khalkhin Gol did show the Japanese how inferior the tanks that had and I believe they were only facing light Soviet tanks. 

From reading the little history on O-I the design was in response to the poor showing of Japanese tanks against the Soviets. 

One thing to keep in mind that all major combatants during WWII had super heavy tank programs. No power wanted to fall behind. 

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Posted by Glamdring on Thursday, January 19, 2023 9:05 PM

GreySnake
 

One thing to keep in mind that all major combatants during WWII had super heavy tank programs. No power wanted to fall behind. 

 

Yup, and the manufacturers have been releasing kits of most of them over the last decade.  Meng released the British A39 Tortoise, and I think DML the American T28, both of those are in my stash too. 

To get this back on track of the theme of the GB, I am getting close to a project decision.  It is down to a plane, aircraft carrier, or a vehicle.  

Robert 

"I can't get ahead no matter how hard I try, I'm gettin' really good at barely gettin' by"

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, January 19, 2023 10:35 PM

Yeah, the thing is so just plain weird I had to have it. I've got a lot done on her, hopefully I'll be ready for paint soon. Hope have some photos up before much longer. 

Robert: Sounds cool, looking forward to seeing what you pick! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, February 2, 2023 11:03 PM

Well, the O-I is together. I did get a little more done on the hatches after this photo:

Here is she is sitting next to a 'normal' Type 89 medium tank: 

I sprayed her with a rusty red-brown primer last night. It's a little patchy and I'll have to hit her again this weekend. Then I'm going to spray some hairspray on her and scrub a little off to get a worn paint effect to show the primer/rust look. 

Or that's the plan anyway... 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by waikong on Monday, February 6, 2023 5:28 PM

A new Japanese GB? How can I resist?  Its like an annual thing! I am in, not sure what yet and will be a month before I can start.

GAMERA, That is one monster of a kit!

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, February 6, 2023 8:24 PM

Waikong: it's great to have you along! 

Steve/Modelcrazy stated it's like an annual thing too! I keep saying I'm going to drop it but I always get several people ask if I'm running it next year so I always end up doing another one... 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by waikong on Monday, February 6, 2023 10:59 PM

Drop it? What are saying? Thats crazy talk. Its gb #12! Honestly this gb always inspires me.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, February 8, 2023 10:10 PM

Okay, she's coated with primer red brown. I think the Japanese used the same red brown primer. Anyway a couple coats of hair spray and I'll lay down the parched grass green and chip and wear it away to show a little of the primer.

Or so is the plan:

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Deeve_ on Wednesday, February 8, 2023 11:47 PM

Gamera

 

Id like to get in on this GB if I could. 

 

I have a vintage original 1977 boxing Hasegawa N1K2-J George I would like to build.

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 In Progress.

1/72 Italeri XB-70 Valkyrie

1/72 Heller P47n

1/48 Monogram FW190A

1/72 Hasegawa HE111H6

 

Deeve_

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Posted by Real G on Thursday, February 9, 2023 12:42 AM

Gamera,

That tank looks more like a pillbox/fortress!  It's hard to imagine the Japanese would have had enough metal to make such a monster!

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, February 9, 2023 7:37 PM

Deeve: Sure! I've got you down. What scale is she? 

Real G: Yeah, it was originally intended as a mobile fortress, aka if the Soviets invaded Japanese held China these things were supposed to trundle forward to the front line and then be dug in. There they'd support infantry and smaller tanks with their big guns. As I understand they weren't intended to move about during the fighting. 

And as to lacking metal the Imperial Navy largely put the end to the project in not giving the army the steel they needed for these monsters. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Deeve_ on Thursday, February 9, 2023 8:26 PM

Gamera. 

 

72 scale. 

 In Progress.

1/72 Italeri XB-70 Valkyrie

1/72 Heller P47n

1/48 Monogram FW190A

1/72 Hasegawa HE111H6

 

Deeve_

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, February 9, 2023 8:59 PM

Deeve_

Gamera. 

 

72 scale. 

 

Got it! Awesome, and thanks!!! 

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Posted by Deeve_ on Friday, March 3, 2023 7:19 PM

I put the finishing touches on my Hasegawa 1/72 N1K2-J George tonight. I tried to do some paint chipping by laying down primer, then aluminium, then the topcoat. Afterwards I expected the Tamiya topcoat to just chip off easily. This wasnt the case. I chipped it with a toothpick, then a Dremel barrel sanding bit (I tapped it all over and dragged it around a bit), then scraped an xacto blade gently. Got a mixed bag of results. Not too satisfied but it was an experiment. Next time I will either use the salt method or the hairspray method. I didnt have any hairspray (not much use to me) so I tried without. Seeing how easily paint seems to chip for me when I dont want it to, I figured it would chip without any problem! Kit went together pretty easily. Not much detail but for a kit thats almost as old as I am, I am impressed with it. Big Smile  Anyways, heres some pics I took.

 

 

I paid $6.99 for this one at a LHS. I had to laugh at the $1.40 price tag on it. I imagine this is the price the original purchaser paid for it.  

 

 

 In Progress.

1/72 Italeri XB-70 Valkyrie

1/72 Heller P47n

1/48 Monogram FW190A

1/72 Hasegawa HE111H6

 

Deeve_

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, March 3, 2023 10:05 PM

Looks cool Deeve!!! 

I usually just use hairspray, about three light coats seems to do the trick. 

Going to post you now and thanks again for joining us! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, March 3, 2023 10:33 PM

I think it looks great.  Maybe if you did the chipping before the Tamiya paint had cured very hard it might have been easier, who knows.

John

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Posted by cbaltrin on Saturday, March 4, 2023 7:36 AM

Nice build Deeve (Although, I think I missed the in-progress posts Whistling). The wavy demarcation line between the grey and green paint on the nose is a nice touch! I have this kit in my stash as well -- almost chose it for this GB since for last year's GB I built the 1/72 N1K1, but I whimped out and chose a Tamiya ki61 Angel.  Would like to find some nice aftermarket for my Shinden-Kai before I tackle it...  But enough about my  plastic pipe-dreams -- youd did a real nice job here. Great work!

Deeve_
I put the finishing touches on my Hasegawa 1/72 N1K2-J George tonight. I tried to do some paint chipping by laying down primer, then aluminium, then the topcoat. Afterwards I expected the Tamiya topcoat to just chip off easily. This wasnt the case. I chipped it with a toothpick, then a Dremel barrel sanding bit (I tapped it all over and dragged it around a bit), then scraped an xacto blade gently. Got a mixed bag of results. Not too satisfied but it was an experiment. Next time I will either use the salt method or the hairspray method. I didnt have any hairspray (not much use to me) so I tried without. Seeing how easily paint seems to chip for me when I dont want it to, I figured it would chip without any problem! Kit went together pretty easily. Not much detail but for a kit thats almost as old as I am, I am impressed with it.   Anyways, heres some pics I took.  

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Posted by cbaltrin on Saturday, March 4, 2023 7:43 AM

I tried the hair spray chipping on my N1K1 for last year's Japanes GB (yes apparently everything is about last year's n1k1 for meAngel). It worked amazing. It just turned out to be too much chipping for what I was after so I ended up painting over it and going with the factory fresh look.  I think I will give it another go with my Tamiya Ki-61. Want to do a heavily weather ship - we will see how it goes. 

On that note, I hope to start my build soon. I might Tag Team with a FB Group build "Model in a Month" theme that is starting soon... Hope that does not get me in the dog house.. Whistling

Gamera

Looks cool Deeve!!! 

I usually just use hairspray, about three light coats seems to do the trick. 

Going to post you now and thanks again for joining us! 

 

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Posted by Deeve_ on Saturday, March 4, 2023 10:02 AM

cbaltrin

Nice build Deeve (Although, I think I missed the in-progress posts Whistling). The wavy demarcation line between the grey and green paint on the nose is a nice touch! I have this kit in my stash as well -- almost chose it for this GB since for last year's GB I built the 1/72 N1K1, but I whimped out and chose a Tamiya ki61 Angel.  Would like to find some nice aftermarket for my Shinden-Kai before I tackle it...  But enough about my  plastic pipe-dreams -- youd did a real nice job here. Great work!

 

Lol. I tend not to post in progress work due to how difficult it is to post pics on this forum compared to others. Big Smile

 

That demarcation line on the nose was only on the 343-45 instructions I downloaded. None of the others had it, just a straight line..

 

 

 

 In Progress.

1/72 Italeri XB-70 Valkyrie

1/72 Heller P47n

1/48 Monogram FW190A

1/72 Hasegawa HE111H6

 

Deeve_

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Posted by BrandonK on Saturday, March 4, 2023 10:19 AM

Nice work, Deeve. And I use the hairspray method and it works great. Your bird looks very convincing and well worn. Great work.

BK

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Posted by cbaltrin on Saturday, March 4, 2023 10:32 AM

LOL, I would have done the same! Always defer to the cool paint scheme! And , if all else fails, a bit of manufactured ignorance does not hurt either...

Deeve_
That demarcation line on the nose was only on the 343-45 instructions I downloaded. None of the others had it, just a straight line..  

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Posted by Deeve_ on Monday, March 6, 2023 2:39 PM

BrandonK

Nice work, Deeve. And I use the hairspray method and it works great. Your bird looks very convincing and well worn. Great work.

BK

 

 

Thanks. I am gonna try it in the near future. Working on a Wildcat now, but I want to do it pretty fresh. After that a ME110. :)

 

I have piles of Japanese stuff in the stash so theres plenty of opportunity.

 

 In Progress.

1/72 Italeri XB-70 Valkyrie

1/72 Heller P47n

1/48 Monogram FW190A

1/72 Hasegawa HE111H6

 

Deeve_

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Posted by Deeve_ on Monday, March 6, 2023 2:40 PM

cbaltrin

LOL, I would have done the same! Always defer to the cool paint scheme! And , if all else fails, a bit of manufactured ignorance does not hurt either...

 

 

 

My thought is to always go with the more interesting paint schemes. Big Smile

 In Progress.

1/72 Italeri XB-70 Valkyrie

1/72 Heller P47n

1/48 Monogram FW190A

1/72 Hasegawa HE111H6

 

Deeve_

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, March 6, 2023 9:09 PM

Always happy to see more stuff entered guys!!! 

 

BTW, I need to get some photos up. The O-1 is painted in the first coat and chipped. Need to take the photos before I mask her off for the camo. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by GreySnake on Saturday, March 11, 2023 7:53 PM
I’m finally back to working on models again getting older isn’t any fun.
Painted part of the lower hull and road wheels on the Type 10 today. Sorry for the poor picture my cat chewed my usual backdrop to pieces.
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Next up will be painting the rubber on the road wheels and tracks.
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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, March 15, 2023 8:45 PM

Looks good Greysnake! 

And I know what you mean about getting older. 

Sorry, kinda busy haven't checked the website in a few days. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by GreySnake on Tuesday, March 21, 2023 1:38 PM
Not a very exciting update I am afraid. Rubber on the road wheels has been painted.
 
Now I need to paint the tracks and attach them. Found out the needle on my Badger was bent and ordered a few new ones and got needles that had been mislabeled for a Badger 150 and the needles were for another model. Finally got the airbrush ready to go yesterday and now the weather is turning sour. Will paint the tracks Thursday and I also need to wash the upper hull and turret since they’ve collected a lot of dust in three months.  
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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, March 21, 2023 9:06 PM

Well any progress is good progress! As long as you're moving forward Greysnake. 

I know what you mean about airbrushes, they only follow women, cars, and computers as the most annoying things in the universe... 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by GreySnake on Wednesday, March 22, 2023 10:03 AM

Airbrushing has become my least favorte part of any project now second to that is painting figures. 

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Posted by waikong on Wednesday, March 22, 2023 4:48 PM

I learned to embrace the Airbrush... PE's not yet.

Please put  me down for the 1/48 Hasegawa Shinden.  An old kit, time to dust it off the stash.

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