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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 5, 2004 1:55 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mach12003
Joel, in these pictures the roll cage looks great. What do you not like about them? You said you sprayed them with a rattle can, what kind of paint did you use? Reason I ask is I have some Alclad Chrome, in a rattle can, that I haven't used yet. I'm not sure what to expect.


Nahh...it looks ok from a distance (and so does my mother Big Smile [:D] ) I had planned to paint it and found out too late that I hadn't emptied the can for airbrushing. In my frustration (wich isn't a good state of mind for modelling) I decided to use the can. It came out pretty dull and corny, probably due to too much paint. Will sand it down and redo it with the airbrush.
I've used Tamiya TS-17 and the match is pretty good. Take a look at your references, for me I would guess the Alclad Chrome is too shiny for a roll cage.
regards
/joel
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 4, 2004 9:51 PM
has anybody built the steve parks penzoil car # 1 i waited 4 yrs to get the decals from silxx and was it worth it. i've built pretty much all the cars in the winston cup.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 3, 2004 8:47 PM
All right here are some prog. pics of the silver anniversary #3. this is my #2 build. hope that you like it, the pics are fuzy if you enlarge them as I said I am still gettig used to this cam.











Hope you like these.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 3, 2004 5:43 PM
Mach12003 thanks for the good word on this model. I am working on the silver anniversary car at this time. I should have some pics up on it tonight. Also I to understand about the thunderstorms and humidity. Here in Texas it has rained for the past 3 weeks. I think the June has hit a new all time high for the wetest June with about 12 inches of rain. That is why I am glad to have a room the is being worked on, that I have turned into a paint booth.
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Posted by mach12003 on Saturday, July 3, 2004 12:36 PM
R-CMan, I'm really looking forward to seeing the rest of your cars, especially the Silver Anniversary car.

Joel, in these pictures the roll cage looks great. What do you not like about them? You said you sprayed them with a rattle can, what kind of paint did you use? Reason I ask is I have some Alclad Chrome, in a rattle can, that I haven't used yet. I'm not sure what to expect.

SeaBee, I understand your frustration. Here in the southern United States, we're getting thunderstorms everyday and humidity is high. My patio is covered and sometimes I paint anyway and pray for the best.
Eric http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/showgallery.php?cat=3705&si=&page=1&sort=0&perpage=15&password=&ppuser=1108&stype=0
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Posted by SeaBee on Saturday, July 3, 2004 10:40 AM
R-CMan - it's looking real good!

Nice going, Joel! Looks good.
Thumbs Up [tup] to you both!

We've had a terrible weekend weatherwise and I could not do any spraying thusfar! Ah well, at least there's plenty sport to watch on the telly this weekend! Maybe tomorrow... Sigh [sigh]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 3, 2004 10:28 AM
Here's some pics of what I've accomplished so far.





I'll have to redo the rollcage as I sprayed it with rattlecan and the result wasn't really satisfying. This weekend I've worked on my decaling skills and they suck. Trying to decal the gas tank and door insides with cf and it looks like crap. If I don't improve by the end of two decal sheets I'll just paint them instead.
Over and out for now
/Joel
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 3, 2004 10:00 AM
Like I said all comments will be taken in stride. Thank you for the tips this is my first cam like this one. I am still learning the software and the way it works. I am used to the old 35mm cams.
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Posted by mach12003 on Saturday, July 3, 2004 8:24 AM
Sign - Ditto [#ditto]
the car looks great, one of my favorite DE cars. The pics are a little out of focus when you look at them full size. Just practice with the camera a lttle and you'll get it right on.
Eric http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/showgallery.php?cat=3705&si=&page=1&sort=0&perpage=15&password=&ppuser=1108&stype=0
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Posted by proosen on Saturday, July 3, 2004 3:06 AM
Hey! From what I can see it looks quiet good! A tip on photographing, step away from the object and you will more likely get the whole object in focus. Use some software to cut away unnecessary portions around the object. Can hardly wait to see your other builds, mine is on idle because of other projects near completion.

Cheers!
Niclas

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 3, 2004 12:04 AM
Luke thanks for the help on photobucket. Here are the finish pics of my first build in 15 years. I hope that all will like them. Comments will be taken GOOD AND BAD ones.





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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 2, 2004 7:07 PM
Hey Murray, Yeah I might have taken to big a bite for the GB because this is the first one to build in 15 years. I am still having problems with photobucket so that is why I have not posted any pics as of yet. When I do get the pics up I hope that you guys with be truthful with me and tell me your reall feelings about my builds. All will be taken Good And Bad.Shy [8)]Sigh [sigh]
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Posted by mkhoot on Friday, July 2, 2004 12:39 PM
mach12003 glad you like it. I really like the new testors lacquer just follow the directions on the can a light dust coat let set 2 min then wet coat . Gloss coat 2 hrs later and you get a nice gloss finish. The wheels are painted with alclad pale burnt metal over grey primer then a black wash. mkhoot
When in doubt just build it. Mark http://www.ipmslivonia.org/ipms/
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Posted by nicholma on Friday, July 2, 2004 7:03 AM
Some great photos here guys, nice looking models.

Someone makes a mask for the Peugeot "206" on the grill. I have one and also the "FORD" for the Ford WRC. Studio 27 I think is the manufacturer or Renaissance - I'll check tomorrow.
Kia ora, Mark "Time flies like the wind, fruit flies like bananas"
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Posted by mach12003 on Thursday, July 1, 2004 8:32 PM
mkhoot... that 289 Cobra is going to be SWEET..... this has to be one of my favorite cars of all time.

How did the new testors lacquer work for you? It looks good in the pic.
What did you use on the wheels?
Eric http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/showgallery.php?cat=3705&si=&page=1&sort=0&perpage=15&password=&ppuser=1108&stype=0
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Posted by mkhoot on Thursday, July 1, 2004 8:15 PM
Here are some progress shots of my 289 cobra
here's the engine
here are the wheels & tires
and the body flared the rear fenders added the front fender grills and painted with the new Testors marina blue lacquer & gloss coat
When in doubt just build it. Mark http://www.ipmslivonia.org/ipms/
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Posted by mach12003 on Thursday, July 1, 2004 7:57 PM
Thanks for the compliments folks...

U-96 and Joel (and others too...) I'm willing to help however I can, If I can.
Eric http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/showgallery.php?cat=3705&si=&page=1&sort=0&perpage=15&password=&ppuser=1108&stype=0
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Posted by U-96 on Thursday, July 1, 2004 3:30 PM
Luke, great idea with having a mini compo for the GB badge. I like yours, but I did come up with an alternative which surprisingly also used the chequered flag Wink [;)], but also a stopwatch as there are quite a few rally nuts out there. It's on my work machine (the product of a rainy lunch break) so I'll try to post it next week.

mach, that is some superb decalling. I may call on your advice when it comes to the big Martini stripes on my Lancia Big Smile [:D]
On the bench: 1/35 Dragon Sturmpanzer Late Recent: Academy 1/48 Bf-109D (Nov 06) Academy 1/72 A-37 (Oct 06) Revell 1/72 Merkava III (Aug 06) Italeri 1/35 T-26 (Aug 06)
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 1, 2004 12:16 PM
Mach 12003 - that's an awesome Corvette. You did a great job on that! I wish I could do big decals like that!

joelwideqvist - I agree with mach12003. I'd build the whole thing first, then tackle the paint issue second. The BMF trick sounds like the best way to go.

RCman73 - wow, 7 builds! I must have missed that. Can't wait to see the pics of the first one...

A little update on my build: the #63 2001 C5-R Corvette from LeMans
- within the last couple of days I have mostly just been puttying, sanding and priming. There were several body panel lines that needed to be filled. What should be simple has caused me much grief...
- I managed to get the vents in the hood finished. Sorry no pics yet, but they will be coming soon. As a reminder, I didn't like the way they were molded in the kit, so I cut them out and made new vents from plastic strip. They're not perfect, but to my eye they look better than the originals.
- I also re-built the rear diffuser (I think that's what it's called) under the back/rear of the car. The kit piece was attached to the chassis, and very thick. I used some scrap sheet brass to build a new one. Again, pics to follow later...

I'll be going on vacation for a week, so I'll be checking in, but likely without any updates (unless I can put together a travelling model bench to take along.... : )

Murray
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 1, 2004 12:05 PM
Ok Luke Here goes nothing: My list of builds and completion %.
1) Dale Earnhardt #3 Wrangler Monte Carlo 100% Complete
2) Dale Earnhardt #3 Silver Anniversary Monte Carlo 085% Complete
3) Dale Earnhardt #3 Daytona Triumph Monte Carlo 005% Complete
4) Dale Earnhardt #3 Goodwrench Service Monte Carlo 000% Complete
5) Dale Earnhardt #3 Oreo Shootout Monte Carlo 000% Complete
6) Dale Earnhardt Jr. #8 Budweiser Monte Carlo 020% Complete
7) 2001 Corvette C5-R Daytona 24 Hours #3 000% Complete

And like I have said hopefully I will be able to have pics up soon.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 1, 2004 9:39 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by SeaBee

Joel, just for interest sake: does the newer 206 models have a mask for that "206" sign on the from air intake (mesh)? If not, how are you planning to do it?


No mask included unfortunately. I've read that people do take a copy of the page illustrating this step in the manual and then cut a template out of that. Could work. For my part it's easy as I have a p/e set in wich the mask is included. Hope that's answer to your question.
regards
Joel
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Posted by SeaBee on Thursday, July 1, 2004 9:01 AM
Joel, just for interest sake: does the newer 206 models have a mask for that "206" sign on the from air intake (mesh)? If not, how are you planning to do it? I have to admit when I did mine, I think it was 99 or 2000 version, that was not included and I chickened out of it, rather leaving the mesh "as is" than screwing up the whole thing with a dodgey-looking (and very visible) hand-painted "206".

As for the rest... My short leave was way too long, it seems! Finished allready? Well done, you beat me by far! Got the roll cage assembled - with a few word of choice when I found the one arm a wee bit too short... Oh well, it was a quick fix and looks quite nice - pity it won't be visible! As of tonight/this weekend/next week the next step will be to start *evil grin* painting the exterior... Quite an interesting model, this one, with the gull-wing doors, etc. Had I not been so fast asleep I should have (famous last words) done a bit more with the dash...
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 1, 2004 7:47 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mach12003
....then cover it with Bare Metal Foil, trim with an exacto blade and pull away the excess. This leaves a very shrp edge and since the BMF is so thin it gives practically no paint build up along that edge.


That was a great idea! I'll go for that one.
regards
Joel
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Posted by mach12003 on Thursday, July 1, 2004 7:13 AM
For you last question I use CA for everything (except clear parts).

As for the gravel gaurd or also called rocker panel, I would get it looking the way you want it and mount it on the car before any painting is done. Then paint the car red and then mask off the gravel gaurd and paint it black at the same time you do the window frames and trim. Use a thin masking material like Tamiya tape or if you think the edge is going to be difficult to mask up to then cover it with Bare Metal Foil, trim with an exacto blade and pull away the excess. This leaves a very shrp edge and since the BMF is so thin it gives practically no paint build up along that edge.
Eric http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/showgallery.php?cat=3705&si=&page=1&sort=0&perpage=15&password=&ppuser=1108&stype=0
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 1, 2004 6:22 AM
Now to something I need help with. Can't decide how to go ahead with one step in the process of detailing the body.
Take a look at this picture:



On the gravel legs the Peugeot has a gravel shield mounted on the sides of the car, you can spot it as the black area on the lower right side. I found this idea on a web site and this is how I'm going to replicate it.



My problem is, like I mentioned above that the shield is going to be black. My question now is in wich order I should mount and paint the shield. I see two ways

1. Mount the shield before painting the body red. This way it's more likely to get it right and fix it if something goes wrong. My thaught is that it could me troublesome to paint the black area properly, seems to be hard to paint the upper edge of the shield when you've masked off the red. The plasticard strip isn't thick...
2. Paint the body red and THEN add the shield. That way I can get some paint on the gravel shield edge before I mount it. But this leaves some big flaws as I can ruin the red paint job when attaching the plasticard strip.

Seems I lean towards no1, what do you think?

And yes, one more thing. Should i use CA glue for the thin plasticard strip. I don't want it to lose shape.

regards
Joel
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Posted by mach12003 on Thursday, July 1, 2004 6:16 AM
Since we're in the same CBP together (I'm from Scale Auto) I thought I would post here as well.

My build is all finished..... The John Greenwood Stars-n-Stripes Corvette as raced in the 1971 Sebring, according to the box art. It doesn't look exactly like the pictures of the real car but the real car never really looked the same in all the pictures either. So for me, I think it looks good and makes a good shelf model. Accurate or not?? who knows? I like the look of the car either way.

It came out okay, built right from the box with a few adjustments. The only part I had to make for the kit was the front spoiler. All the pictures I could find of the real car had one so I made one for this kit. Otherwise, it's a fun car to build and the decals aren't all that difficult, just take your time with them...

So here it is... (and a few other pictures of it in my photo album on the last page if you're interested)






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Posted by luke on Thursday, July 1, 2004 1:43 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by U-96

luke, is there a GB icon yet?


ok - I forgot about the GB Badge until you mentioned it Big Smile [:D], and seeing a couple of us have finished, we need to get cracking . . .

For those who dont know (and some people dont), a Group Build Badge is a little picture that you can display in your profile or signature that associates you with that group build. The pic is a symbolic representation that sums up the Group Build. You can look at heaps of peoples signatures or you can check my profile @ FSM for examples. Anyway, the Badge is nominated and designed and voted for, by all of us - including people at ScaleAuto.. I have designed one below as my nomination. If you dont like it, you can choose another design, and if you cant design it, I'm pretty good with graphics and can surely help.



Once voted for, you can only use it once you've finished your car (or your first car if you're building more than one). To make it easier for everyone, cos the guys at ScaleAuto will be helping out aswell, I suggest 1 to 2 months of nominations, and after that time, we vote for the one. What do you guys think Question [?]

**Like with everything that I'm doing, I will place each GB Badge Nomination in Post 1, Page 1, next to the GB Model Nominations, Lists & Rules. This will make it easier for all to view them as time goes by, and then vote for one!

Remember, let's get creative and vote for one at the end.
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Posted by luke on Thursday, July 1, 2004 1:27 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by R-CMan73

Alright! Done with the first of 7 Builds. I just got on photobucket to try to post some pics, but I have not been able to at this time. If I could get some help with this I will post some pics so that everyone in this GB can tell me if I am doing good for not modeling for so long or if I am wasting my time and money. But as I said I am done with the first one so Luke if you would update the first page. Now I should be done with number 2 build but Sunday.Big Smile [:D]Cowboy [C):-)]Thumbs Up [tup]


R-CMan73 - I'll wont update the main nomination list until you tell me what model (eg name, race competition it's in, manufacturer, etc) you've done. I'm not being mean or rude or bossy, but it would just help others to see what car you've actually done Shy [8)]. Who knows, someone else down the track may pick the same model and ask you for some tips Wink [;)]. You can tell us prior to posting the pics!

Secondly, with posting pics - Now you said you use photobucket? Cos if you do, it is very simple using photobucket to post pics. Simply, to post pics within the text, just copy & past the URL address of the picture. At photobucket, it's the Img address - just copy it as it reads enitrely and paste it into the text!

your picture should read (in words) like this (but with the spaces removed)
[ IMG ] http://XXXX.photobucket.com/albums/XXX/XXX/MyPicturesNameHere.jpg[ /IMG ]

remember, remove the spaces from the entire command (I left mine there so you can read it, and a little red cross doesn't come up)

good luck
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Posted by proosen on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 11:59 PM
Phjuuii! There's some fast build going on here in the GB! I've hardly left the starting grid and having trouble gaining speed Wink [;)] Been busy finishing another one of my projects (Pennzoil Skyline from big T) But I'm going on vacation soon(4 weeks) and after that I'll be home with my youngest (6 months old) son for another 4 weeks to begin with. Hopefully he will sleep a lot during daytime so daddy gets some time in the workshop Big Smile [:D]. Anyway, I'm a slow builder as I tend to build a little on several object at the same time, anyone recognize this behaviour? I wish I could stay with one project 'til it's finished before I move on to another one. On my GB-project bad luck struck as I metioned earlier, the funny thing is that with a non metalic color it would not be such a problem to sand and polish the blemishes away. But now I'm stuck with this marks in the paint job so I'll be sanding it down a bit harder and give it another go as soon as I got a new bottle of paint. Hopefully this weekend.

Have a good summer!
Niclas
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 10:50 PM
Alright! Done with the first of 7 Builds. I just got on photobucket to try to post some pics, but I have not been able to at this time. If I could get some help with this I will post some pics so that everyone in this GB can tell me if I am doing good for not modeling for so long or if I am wasting my time and money. But as I said I am done with the first one so Luke if you would update the first page. Now I should be done with number 2 build but Sunday.Big Smile [:D]Cowboy [C):-)]Thumbs Up [tup]
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