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AUTOS - Racing Car Group Build (ends 12/1/04)

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  • From: Paarl, South Africa
Posted by SeaBee on Monday, June 7, 2004 6:10 AM
Hmmm... why so quiet? I have a good excuse - was in bed with the flu since Thursday. At least gave me time to paint something now and then and build over the weekend. Basically my chassis is almost done - will finish it tonight. The the interior starts, beginning with the dash.

U-96: I presume it's your first car build. Welcome! It looks like a very nice kit - something very different - cool! Do enjoy!! By accident I saw an insert on the history of the Acropolis rally over the weekend.
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Posted by U-96 on Saturday, June 5, 2004 6:42 AM
Crikey! What am I letting myself in for! 140+ parts!
That's about twice the number of anything I've built so far (well except maybe the Italeri PzIV, but millions of road wheels don't count Dead [xx(]), so this is going to be an interesting few months!


On the bench: 1/35 Dragon Sturmpanzer Late Recent: Academy 1/48 Bf-109D (Nov 06) Academy 1/72 A-37 (Oct 06) Revell 1/72 Merkava III (Aug 06) Italeri 1/35 T-26 (Aug 06)
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 2, 2004 8:09 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by luke
you could scan the decal (the orginal in white print - is that correct?) and have a graphics programme (like Adobe Photoshop or PaintShop Pro) and change the colour to yellow, and then print it out on decal paper on an ink-jet printer. You can make your own decals!


I had that in mind but I think I'll try the All Model decal's first. Otherwise I have to buy paper and the stuff to go on top of the print so they could equal in cost. If the new set is wrong as well (perhaps in size this time...) I'll go your way ---> an even more expensive model Big Smile [:D]
/Joel
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Posted by U-96 on Wednesday, June 2, 2004 7:39 AM
haha thanks for the welcome, luke, no need to give "her indoors" an excuse, she's grateful I'm out of the way so she can catch up on the soaps!

Just one Q for anyone that may know... is it the case that the Revell 037 is a reboxed Hasegawa mould? If so, will the Hasegawa-designed etched parts be suitable for it? It's the back grille I'm keen to replace, the idea of drilling out the holes in the plastic fills me with trepidation Shock [:O]
On the bench: 1/35 Dragon Sturmpanzer Late Recent: Academy 1/48 Bf-109D (Nov 06) Academy 1/72 A-37 (Oct 06) Revell 1/72 Merkava III (Aug 06) Italeri 1/35 T-26 (Aug 06)
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Posted by luke on Wednesday, June 2, 2004 7:20 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by joelwideqvist

Found a car with a lovely scheme and my idea was to superdetail the kit. And then you realize that the decals doesn't corespond to the actual car... Don't you just hate when this happens?
I can accept minor flaws but to have the roof "206" decal that you can see in this image printed in white instead of yellow makes you wonder....

There went my great build Dead [xx(] I think it's pretty impossible to paint it in yellow so I have one idea to try. I found the sheet from another manufacturer (That I haven't heard of before, perhaps I could get the decal from that one instead and hope that the quality is OK. Great build --> Expensive build...

regards
/Joel


you could scan the decal (the orginal in white print - is that correct?) and have a graphics programme (like Adobe Photoshop or PaintShop Pro) and change the colour to yellow, and then print it out on decal paper on an ink-jet printer. You can make your own decals!
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Posted by luke on Wednesday, June 2, 2004 7:12 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by U-96

Hey folks, can I play? Big Smile [:D]

Modelling's been on the back shelf for the last few months with moving house and getting married, but this gives me a reason to have a crack at the Revell 1/24 Lancia 037 that's been sitting in a box for the last couple of years. And the timescale is realistic for us less-than-ubermodellers!

Plus I get my first GB groovy icon Wink [;)]


Sign - Welcome [#welcome] aboard mate . . . I have to give you an excuse to use on your 'new' other-half Wink [;)].
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 2, 2004 5:09 AM
Found a car with a lovely scheme and my idea was to superdetail the kit. And then you realize that the decals doesn't corespond to the actual car... Don't you just hate when this happens?
I can accept minor flaws but to have the roof "206" decal that you can see in this image printed in white instead of yellow makes you wonder....



There went my great build Dead [xx(] I think it's pretty impossible to paint it in yellow so I have one idea to try. I found the sheet from another manufacturer (That I haven't heard of before, perhaps I could get the decal from that one instead and hope that the quality is OK. Great build --> Expensive build...

regards
/Joel
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Posted by U-96 on Wednesday, June 2, 2004 4:34 AM
Hey folks, can I play? Big Smile [:D]

Modelling's been on the back shelf for the last few months with moving house and getting married, but this gives me a reason to have a crack at the Revell 1/24 Lancia 037 that's been sitting in a box for the last couple of years. And the timescale is realistic for us less-than-ubermodellers!

Plus I get my first GB groovy icon Wink [;)]
On the bench: 1/35 Dragon Sturmpanzer Late Recent: Academy 1/48 Bf-109D (Nov 06) Academy 1/72 A-37 (Oct 06) Revell 1/72 Merkava III (Aug 06) Italeri 1/35 T-26 (Aug 06)
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Posted by SeaBee on Wednesday, June 2, 2004 1:31 AM
QUOTE: It's June 1st . . . .

"Gentlemen . . . start your engines."


Sorry, have to do some other stuff before getting to start the engine on mine! Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D] But at least I'm up and running! Will post pic(s) as soon as I have something sensible to photograph.

Even my wife was excited yesterday eve - for the first time she came to me, asking whether I've started building yet... (Allready one good thing came of this GB! Wink [;)] )
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Posted by luke on Tuesday, June 1, 2004 8:37 PM
Sign - Welcome [#welcome] Daryl Huhtala to the FSM Forums; and great car!

joelwideqvist - i dont use stretched spur, but like SeaBee, I use stiff wires or a hair off a large house-painting paint brush. These brush hairs are long and thin and you can cut them to any length.

SeaBee - you may already know this, but I'll type it for others who want to know. Right mouse click on the enlarged photo format, select properties, and copy the photo's address URL in full (eg this is my example - http://img67.photobucket.com/albums/v205/lbsyl/Tam24PeugeotWRCFSMGBlbs01.jpg). Place this inbetween the two symbols [ img ] **place here** [ /img ], but don't leave any spaces inbetween the brackets (I need to leave the spaces so that a red square mistake doesnt come up - you'll know what I mean if you leave a space).



It's June 1st . . . .

"Gentlemen . . . start your engines."
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Posted by Daryl Huhtala on Tuesday, June 1, 2004 8:11 PM
New to this board and just found this group build. It sounds like what I need to get started on my Fujimi 917K. I'm trying to post a pic here as a test to see how this board works. Here goes........
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Posted by SeaBee on Tuesday, June 1, 2004 7:10 AM
Thanks Luke - I have an account on another place for hosting pics. I presume that will be fine, so long as I just get the URL right.

Joel:I am very much looking forward to replies on problem 1. I have had some kits recently where they actually do not supply the antenna's - you are supposed to make them with stretched sprue. I am yet to have success - I usually end up taking wires, pins or whatever comes handy for an arial...

As for painting wheel bolts: are you talking about the big one (that needs to be loosened in changing the wheel - typically in a pit stop) or the small ones on the brake assembly? The big ones I find easiest if you mentally break it up and paint the straight edges first, then fill in the centre. (With you being used to bike wheels, this should be fine.)
The smallish ones, I tried a few techniques and at this stage I take a fine round brush (can't recall the number off-hand, sorry) with a little paint on and simply touch the top of the bolt. It does the job for me - dry-brushing causes more redo's than anything else.

If on a rally car, where they have quite a few smallish bolts to loosen the wheel, instead of one big one, try the following. Paint your rim the correct colour. Seal it wit a gloss layer (NB: Of another type of paint than your normal thinner!). Make a black/brown wash and give the indentations around the bolts a wash, removing excess with and earbud dipped in your normal thinner. Then just dab on the colouring for the bolt - it should stand out really well and you'll have the natural "shadows" in the recesses.

Well, that's just my 2c... Looking forward to alternative suggestions!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 1, 2004 3:42 AM
Ok, here's two questions to start with.

1. I read a lot of stuff about people using stretched sprue for antennas and rivets. My attempts last night ended with a lot of gue and hair thin pieces. I used a candle to heat the sprue but perhaps that's to hot? Any tips regarding this?

2. I was looking through the parts trying to locate any bottle necks and hard-to-achieve details. What I could use are some hints regarding painting of the wheel bolts (is that the correct term?) To get it to look realistic I guess you want to lay sort of a wash between the bolt and the wheel and then you want the bolt itself to be painted silver or chrome. Anyone done this before and have some hints for a guy that's only been painting bike wheels in 1/12...?

/joel
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Posted by luke on Tuesday, June 1, 2004 3:32 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by SeaBee

Aaaah, nomination-time... I think I will stick to what I initially planned to do: a very much out-the-box Open Astra DTM. (Hey, this is my first group build - give me time to settle!) Big Smile [:D]

Dumb Q: How do you post pics here - for when I have pics to post...?


ok - posting pics.
unless you have a webpage to yourself, you need to go to www.photobucket.com and register for an account as they do picture hosting. It's like yahoo mail or hotmail - a free gig. Anyway, once there, upload your pics to photobucket (very easy) and then your ready to post them here.

place this symbol at the start of the picture's URL [ img ]
place this symbol at the end of the picture's URL [ /img ]
ps - you have to remove the spaces between the brackets!
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Posted by SeaBee on Tuesday, June 1, 2004 3:25 AM
Aaaah, nomination-time... I think I will stick to what I initially planned to do: a very much out-the-box Open Astra DTM. (Hey, this is my first group build - give me time to settle!) Big Smile [:D]

Dumb Q: How do you post pics here - for when I have pics to post...?
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 1, 2004 2:05 AM
Hay all,

I know that i'v put my name up to say i'ii take part in this CGB the stupidBanged Head [banghead] think is i can't recall if i have stated what kit i'm going to build?
nicholma i did know that scale auto mem did make same shells

thanx
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Posted by luke on Monday, May 31, 2004 9:10 PM
NB:// Seeing this post has tipped over into 2 pages (on my screen settings anyway), and most likely will continue to grow in size, I will keep the Rules, People Joined, and the weblink to Scale Auto on the First Post on Page 1. Please refer back to that if necessary, but for all major announcements, just make them as we go! Thankyou!
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Posted by luke on Monday, May 31, 2004 9:00 PM
Sign - Welcome [#welcome] jlwilliams & joelwideqvist & all the others guys who have joined but I rudely did not welcome!

ps - g8t webpage joel!!!!Cool [8D]

This is my car. I was taking some other photos and threw this one in aswell:

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Posted by dkmacin on Monday, May 31, 2004 3:58 PM
Teacher? Jethro Tull fan?
Looking at what you have so far I would say you can teach me a few things!
That Focus got Off road tires in the kit??

Don
I know it's only rock and roll, but I like it.
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  • From: South Carolina
Posted by jlwilliams on Monday, May 31, 2004 1:19 PM
I am casting my hat in the ring on this one. I have a hasegawa 1999 Safari Rally Ford Focus that has been started.




On the scale auto magazine forum I use the name teacher.
J. Lee Williams 2007 New Year's Resolution: Complete a group build 2008 New Year's Resolution: Complete a group build on time You load 16 tons and what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt! In my stash gallery: http://pics.jamesjweg.com/gallery/3989211
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 31, 2004 11:26 AM
Cheers guys!
I would like to take part in the group build. It's my first car and I think I could learn a lot this way.
My car will be the Panizzi brothers Clarion Peugeot 206 WRC as it rallied in Turqey 2003. It's based upon the Tamiya 2003 Pug and I will use Renaissance decals and parts (aerial, wheels and perhaps the dash) and probably a Studio 27 PE set.

regards
Joel - www.onetwelvth.com
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Posted by nicholma on Sunday, May 30, 2004 12:53 AM
I had to make room on my bench because I've currently got 4 cars, 1 ship and 1 aircraft on the go plus another car for the Aussie group build and I've already started on one of the 2 models I'm building for this group build! Anyway see my post for the one finished today.

Luke yes I think Tamiya also do seated rally crew as a seperate set. Modellers used to do a very nice set but I'm not sure if they're still doing them.
Kia ora, Mark "Time flies like the wind, fruit flies like bananas"
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Posted by luke on Saturday, May 29, 2004 10:31 PM
Sign - Welcome [#welcome] dkmacin!

dont worry if you just open the box! I've joined a couple of other group builds and I havent even bought a model for them yet. Those GB's go for six months so it doesnt matter if i join up now or in Sept, cos I'll have some time to finish cos those ones finish in Dec. That's why I made the finish in Dec; also you can leave at anytime (that's if things get to heavy for ya - but that's no fun LOL).
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Posted by dkmacin on Saturday, May 29, 2004 4:40 PM
I have been casting this back and forth for quite a while, should I join or not? I have sooo much to do I do not think I can, but If I have six months. . .
Interesting About having the Subaru in your hand SeaBee. . .I have a piece of a Subaru driven by Solberg! It doesn't look like much, and it has major road rash on it but it was from his car.
Anyway, (big breath) Count me in. I'll start on my WRC on the First of June. . .even if it just means I open the box!!

Don
I know it's only rock and roll, but I like it.
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Posted by SeaBee on Saturday, May 29, 2004 2:25 PM
As it happens, I stood with a Subaru in my hands earlier today. Tempted as I was, I had a think back at the heap that still has to be done and left it. (Now that took some guts!) I am pretty sure it had seated driver figures noted as a feature on the box. Not sure about which spesific kit it was, but I think it was a 2002 one. For sure Sollberg was one of the options, and I thinmk with a #11, so it can't have been a 2003 kit.

As for decals... I agree with nicholma. Softener and patience will get you there. I am used to building bikes, where the curves and decal complexity of some make you shiver! And recently built 2 Mercs in Original-Teile colourschemes: the DTM one, as well as the Le Mans car... Decals straight from hell! It looks great once you're done, but you loose a lot of weight due to stress! Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D] Naah, it's not that bad. Believe me, it's much easier than it looks!
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Posted by luke on Saturday, May 29, 2004 3:55 AM
nicholma - yeah kit 24262 - it comes with 2x figures that are standing with a trophy and a bottle of bub. I aint gonna build those guys - aint too crazy about them.

Can you get 1/24 seated drivers/navi's?
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Posted by nicholma on Saturday, May 29, 2004 12:35 AM
Good stuff, is that the 2002 car? I have 2 of them as well (got both for Christmas presents but I really only want one). Decals are fine as long as you take time and use a decal softener. Use this forum to help when you start on them.
- we'll get you through !!!
Kia ora, Mark "Time flies like the wind, fruit flies like bananas"
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Posted by luke on Friday, May 28, 2004 8:07 AM
today I picked up Tamiya's 24th Peugeot 206 'winner version'.

This is my first rally or racing car. My others were just normal civial sports cars (if you can call them that!). There's heaps of decals, and I dont like doing them very much - fearing I'll stuff them up - but I will conquer this one lol.
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Posted by nicholma on Friday, May 28, 2004 4:04 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by SeaBee

Challenge no. 1: which box, which box, wich box...? Confused [%-)] Wink [;)] Whistling [:-^]


How about that one you've been putting off because of some reason Evil [}:)], nows the time to do it, there again do them all!! Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]
Kia ora, Mark "Time flies like the wind, fruit flies like bananas"
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Posted by SeaBee on Friday, May 28, 2004 3:54 AM
Nicholma, it sounds as if your mind is as decidedly made up as mine! Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]

Still wondering which kit to go for! Coinsidently, I have that self-same Toyota kit. But as that is my last remaining WRC kit, I will most likely go for the F1 or DTM option. Challenge no. 1: which box, which box, wich box...? Confused [%-)] Wink [;)] Whistling [:-^]
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