at this stage of my patience with this hobby, i like to get kits without many parts. like the Tamiya P-51D stang, a nice, well designed kit that can be built in a few days without headache. lovely to me. i get bogged down with a gazillion parts to detach, sand, shape, and glue on, just give me the simple ones, i'm happy. i don't like alot of ordinance either, but i'm sure all of this will change with the "growth" curve. sorry you guys are disappointed with your kits. hang in there though, you'll be surprised to see how well they look when sanded, filled, painted, and decaled. later.