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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:11 PM

hmmm an interesting history lesson Jules and Darren.... thanks! Smile [:)]

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:04 PM

Ok now I get it. A bit of early days IFF

Darren

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 29, 2004 7:24 PM

Darren, Galland had it poking out of the windshield, i read that he used it for identifying
A/C at longer ranges, not to improve his aim.........Jules......

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Monday, November 29, 2004 7:13 PM

fighterguru I know how you feel, at this time of year between work and the run up to the silly season, I am knackered. Sometimes I have to almost force myself to go to the workbench. That’s why it so much fun the other night, I was actually feeling ok for once and had a spare evening to myself.

tweety My youngest daughter (2 years old) has just come down with chicken pox again Sad [:(]

. I can't believe it, twice in 12 months. I hope your little boy is feeling better soon.

nmayhew There's not long to go now, but the closer the start date gets the slower time seems to pass.
I don't understand what you mean by "109 e-4 Galland, with the telescopic site hat he had specially fitted". Where did he put the telescopic sight?

Oh yeah, only 2 weeks to go and I am outa here. I'm taking the family down the coast to the beach for a week of sunshine, blue skies lapping waves Big Smile [:D]

Cheers
Darren

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 29, 2004 7:05 PM

Hey Nicholas wasn't that a rifle scope he had fitted to his 109 Question [?]

As far as warm up builds go i should be finished my Spit1 for the Old Guns GB in a couple ( maybe a few ) days so i'll stick up a pic for you guys to have a look at when it's done... Thumbs Up [tup]

Geez i'm getting frustrated with this no scanner thing, i have hundreds of A/C profiles that i can't share cause i still have no scanner Sad [:(]

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nmayhew

Member since
July 2003
From: Kent, England

Posted by nmayhew on Monday, November 29, 2004 1:06 AM

tweety1 - i hope the little one is better soon! Black Eye [B)]

darson - thanks for the heads up about the m4a1; i've read reviews etc, and although yu can do a 43 model ( i think), to make it into an el alamein tank, you need direct vision ports and the suspension from say tamiya's old m3 lee kit...but that's for another group build!! Wink [;)]

[#offtopic
back to matters here, i'm still waiting on my defiant to arrive, but have heaps of BoB craft to do in the mean time, just as a "warm-up" (they always teach you how important warm-ups are in excercise now, don't they?? Laugh [(-D]

)
i think i am going to do hassegawa's 109 e-4 Galland, with the telescopic site hat he had specially fitted Cool [8D]

, in tandem with my defiant.
i also have a he-111 (waiting for exhausts from bill koster to make it authentic BoB), and a tamiya 109 e-3 which i will do in JG51 Pips Priller markings....there are soooo many cool schemes out there i need to build about 50 aircraft!![:0] Smile [:)]

basically, i can't wait until the build starts!

N

Kind regards, Nicholas

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:07 PM

Well, I had a turn of luck, if you could call it that Confused [%-)]

Got the call from day care that my little boy had a temperature, so took the rest of today off of work.

He's ok, but can't be too careful.
So while he plays, I am doing some modelling, and when he goes down for a nap, I'll do some spray painting.

I'ts kinda cool really, he doesn't want me to play with him, but he likes being in the same room as me, and doing his own thing.

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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fighterguru

Member since
February 2003
From: north carolina

Posted by fighterguru on Sunday, November 28, 2004 4:36 PM

I haven't been able to do any modeling on anything in about a month my work schedule is crazy and Im to tired to work on any thing after work I may try to get some build time in tonight as Im off from work tonight and tommorow.

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 28, 2004 6:53 AM

Darren Thanks for the email mate Thumbs Up [tup]

thats one awesome looking Stuka,i'd be stoked if mine turned out half as good Big Smile [:D]

Tweety, no progress for me this weekend either Sad [:(]

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razordws

Member since
September 2004
From: Vernon, BC, Canada

Posted by razordws on Sunday, November 28, 2004 1:56 AM

Cruzr: just a word of warning about internet orders from the States. I ordered something from Great Models and had them ship it through UPS because the shipping was cheaper. Turns out I got hit with $30 customs brokerage fee!! Angry [:(!]

I don't know if shipping it through the mail would get around that problem and I'm not sure why it had to go through a customs broker. Maybe some other Canadians out there can answer that question. I'm going to give the Canadian internet sites a try, or order stuff through the LHS (don't know if this is an option for you) before I ever try ordering from the States again. Nothing against Americans you understand, its our own Government trying to grab some cash every chance they get. Angry [:(!]

Dave

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Saturday, November 27, 2004 4:57 PM

Ahhhh, half your luck Darren.

The workbench pic, with the G14 with 2 decals on it, thats as far as I've been allowed to get this weekend!
Work, kid, sport blah blah blah.............

Might be able to get some more in this arvo, before training.

Well, thats the plan.

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Saturday, November 27, 2004 4:04 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Cruzr

Well my desk is the hide-a-way one that i built from the plans that i got from this site( but i modified them of course). i had the 110 on the desk drying as the canopy was glued in the open position. Oh well
My search still goes on for a kit. i picked up a 109D the other day. I've found a Hurricane Mk II night fighter and Dessert Rat version, also a Gladiator ( but the box says late version???) Still looking for a 109E in 1/48. i need to move to a bigger city or somthing.

Hey Cruzr, The late version Gladiator would certainly qualify if you're interested. Also, (I am sorry but I think I have asked this before) have you thought of using a mail order place like Greatmodels or Squadron?

My workbench is locked away in Dad's model room (which is our spare room); I keep the door closed so the kids don't go in. My oldest knows never to go near dad's modeling stuff regardless because it is dangerous.

As a by the by, I was working on my 109 E and my Mustang III last night and had an absolute ball. Four hours just flew by and I walked out of the model room and thought, wow that was a good session. Sometimes modeling can become a bit of a chore and it's nice to remember it is actually fun.

Cheers
Darren

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Cruzr

Member since
October 2004
From: Fort St John B.C. Canada

Posted by Cruzr on Saturday, November 27, 2004 2:16 PM

Well my desk is the hide-a-way one that i built from the plans that i got from this site( but i modified them of course). i had the 110 on the desk drying as the canopy was glued in the open position. Oh well
My search still goes on for a kit. i picked up a 109D the other day. I've found a Hurricane Mk II night fighter and Dessert Rat version, also a Gladiator ( but the box says late version???) Still looking for a 109E in 1/48. i need to move to a bigger city or somthing.

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Saturday, November 27, 2004 3:39 AM

So far I've been lucky. None of my three ever go near my stuff, despite the fact I leave it out lots on my bench. After all I don't need help in screwing things up, I can do that myself.

So far this week, I've dropped my Do217 on the floor, and split the fuselage seem open, thankfully I haven't reached the painting stage yet!

Then last night I dropped a dio base on my part complete PZL 24G and snapped off the tail skid an tail aerial mount.

Like I said, I don't need kids to hash things up Banged Head [banghead]

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 27, 2004 1:07 AM

I know how you guys feel my 3 year old has nailed 2 of mine......... Sad [:(]

Nice looking bench you got there Tweety Thumbs Up [tup]

I can see that G14 sittin pretty Thumbs Up [tup]

i wen't to the LHS today looking for a JU 88 and the only one's they had were late war versions a C-3 nightfighter i think........anyways i'll keep my eyes opon for one and if i see one i'll grab it Thumbs Up [tup]

.......Jules.......

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 27, 2004 12:27 AM

LOL.. oh those last few threads take me back to my own childhood. my uncles a truck driver and built a lot of the Semi models that where available and when i was 3-4 i always wanted to play with them. of course the wheels didn't turn and they'd snap off. solution; buy a R/C kenworth for me to play with when i came over! come to think of it, he played with it more than i did....

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razordws

Member since
September 2004
From: Vernon, BC, Canada

Posted by razordws on Saturday, November 27, 2004 12:11 AM

Aren't kids wonderful? I got three of them, the youngest is now 4. That is part of the reason why my models were in boxes for the last 15 years! Big Smile [:D]

Now if I could just do something about that Censored [censored]

CAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dave

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Friday, November 26, 2004 11:07 PM

I am yet to suffer the enjoyment of my son 'finding' my models!

I went to great lengths about 1 month ago to change my model bench, and make a new one, cause I busted him trying to grab the #11 blade from the bench.

This was the ol' bench-

This is the 'kiddy proof' version-

Also every model I make gets it's own perspex case and base.

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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madmike

Member since
July 2003
From: Perth, Western Australia

Posted by madmike on Friday, November 26, 2004 9:37 PM

Ouch!!

my 16 year old son did the same thing to a 1:72 Airfix E-boat displayed on the top shelf of the study when he was 2. I found all the bits bar the 1:72 MG42 bow gun!

Mind you, he never did it again and learned very fast about NOT to touch Daddy's models EVER again!

cheers

Mike

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei

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Cruzr

Member since
October 2004
From: Fort St John B.C. Canada

Posted by Cruzr on Friday, November 26, 2004 8:54 PM

Well my warm up build is now scrap plastic. My 2 year old got a hold of it this morning. The door was left open to my office and he came in to play!!!!!
Needless to say it was a rough flight for the 110 crew Big Smile [:D]

The wings and body are still together but not much else. Found a wheel about an hour ago, haven't found anything else though. My son is to much like me.

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Friday, November 26, 2004 5:19 AM

Those cutaway drawings are gonna help alot mate.

Time allowing, I would like to open up some hatches, and do some scratchbuilding.

Thats the plan anyways.

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 26, 2004 3:16 AM

Darson, yeah mate thats the one, there's another one which was much photographed
"White 3" again from JG 27, funny how i always associate JG 27's emblem with North Africa when in reality JG 27 were wearing it on their A/C during the BoB.....

Tweety good to see i got there safely, BTW does the Defiant cutaway drawing help at all Question [?]

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Friday, November 26, 2004 3:05 AM

April-July sounds fine.
North African conflict needs ALOT more coverage, it was just as important as anywhere else.
The 109 is a must, but I'll look at doing a more obscure one, just for the challenge.
But what else to build........................research time!!!!!!

Still have to order my Defiant, just doing some research on what kits I plan to build later so I can order all the A/M bits before hand, while the Aussie dollar is high.

Jules, got the barrels etc today, thanks heaps!!!!!!!

I've got some parts coming from the states that maybe be useful to you.
They messed up my last order, and sent it via surface instead of air (3months vs 2 weeks!!), might take a while, but they'll get here.

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Thursday, November 25, 2004 6:06 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by nmayhew

for the north african GB i would def do a 109, prob flown by hans-joachim marselle.
i would also like to do some el alemein armour, but subject matter is v hard to find (no-one makes the m4a1 sherman for instance that was used there)....i'd be interested to see what comes up.

kind regards,

nicholas

ps i've ordered my defiant from hannants: it's meant to be a xmas present from my girlfriend - she always buys me a kit for xmas, even if i have to point her in the right direction!
i ordered it early as i said they were selling out fast!!

Nicholas, strange you should mention the M4A1. DML have just re-released their M4A1 75mm Sherman (Early). Here is a link to it from Greatmodels
http://www.greatmodels.com/cgi/display.cgi?item_num=dr6048
I have one on hold for me at the LHS and I will pick it up next pay. This one is going to be a gift from my daughters for Xmas. I should have enough bits to turn this into a British Sherman.

Jules, April 1st to July 31st sounds great to me. As for posting it to the forum, say maybe May 1st. That should give everybody (especially the ones in this build) time to advertise it to everyone else and to work out what they want to build.
Also, is this the Black Eight you are talking about?

Cheers
Darren

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 25, 2004 4:29 AM

Darson Arpil sounds Ok to me, how about April 1st to July 31st, that'll give 4 months building time........might get to build that Stuart honey afterall, and maybe even give ol black 8 a go......
BTW when do you fellas reckon it should be posted in the Forums Question [?]

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nmayhew

Member since
July 2003
From: Kent, England

Posted by nmayhew on Thursday, November 25, 2004 12:41 AM

for the north african GB i would def do a 109, prob flown by hans-joachim marselle. Cool [8D]

i would also like to do some el alemein armour Cool [8D]

, but subject matter is v hard to find (no-one makes the m4a1 sherman for instance that was used there Disapprove [V]

)....i'd be interested to see what comes up.

kind regards,

nicholas

ps i've ordered my defiant from hannants: it's meant to be a xmas present from my girlfriend - she always buys me a kit for xmas Smile [:)]

, even if i have to point her in the right direction!
i ordered it early as i said they were selling out fast!! Wink [;)]

Kind regards, Nicholas

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Thursday, November 25, 2004 12:20 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison

Mike thats definately a great lookin Hurricane

Ok so you fellas all want to have a North African GB........
Thats fine with me i don't mind moderating it but when do we start it and is it all subjects or just for us wingy thingy builders

So back to the BoB i'm gonna have a look at the LHS tommorrow for a Ju88 in 1/48, i know they have some there but i have to make sure it's a A/4 or an A/5.......
Darson don't add it to the first page yet cause i don't know whether or not i'm going to build it, if i can get the 109 done in Jan i should have enough time to do it.....
Jules.........

Jules, just my My 2 cents [2c]

but I wouldn't mind an all subjects GB actually. I might do an aircraft and a tank. I don't do much in the way of armour so it would be fun.

As for the start date, any time after April is good for me.

No worries on the Ju88.

Cheers
Darren

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 25, 2004 12:02 AM

Mike thats definately a great lookin Hurricane Thumbs Up [tup]

Ok so you fellas all want to have a North African GB........
Thats fine with me i don't mind moderating it but when do we start it and is it all subjects or just for us wingy thingy builders Question [?]

So back to the BoB i'm gonna have a look at the LHS tommorrow for a Ju88 in 1/48, i know they have some there but i have to make sure it's a A/4 or an A/5.......
Darson don't add it to the first page yet cause i don't know whether or not i'm going to build it, if i can get the 109 done in Jan i should have enough time to do it.....
Jules.........

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darson

Member since
February 2003
From: Melbourne, Australia

Posted by darson on Wednesday, November 24, 2004 11:23 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900

thats a sharp looking plane mike... I especially like the way you vaired the weathering from top to bottom... the top faded, blurred, the bottom where the "gunk" kicks up more a dirty shade... looks really nice! I am thinking on trying something like that on a AV-8B Harrier I have 80% built just for grins.. shade the panel lines, hightlight the panels etc... after seeing the second model done this way I think this is something I will take on to!

can't believe we have sooooo long to wait for this to officialy start... might have to do a warm up just to keep from getting too frustrated haha... have a He-111 I *might* do for fun... after my USN Aviation build is done...

Tom,

It's actually only 5 weeks to go till kick off day. Take away the Xmas New Year frenzy and you're really only talking about three weeks dead time.

p.s. Don't tell anybody else but if you get board after your USN Aviation build is complete, I don't think anybody will mind if you (or anybody else for that matter) wants to make a bit of an early start Whistling [:-^]

Cheers
Darren

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tho9900

Member since
July 2004
From: SETX. USA

Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:27 PM

thats a sharp looking plane mike... I especially like the way you vaired the weathering from top to bottom... the top faded, blurred, the bottom where the "gunk" kicks up more a dirty shade... looks really nice! I am thinking on trying something like that on a AV-8B Harrier I have 80% built just for grins.. shade the panel lines, hightlight the panels etc... after seeing the second model done this way I think this is something I will take on to!

can't believe we have sooooo long to wait for this to officialy start... might have to do a warm up just to keep from getting too frustrated haha... have a He-111 I *might* do for fun... after my USN Aviation build is done...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!

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