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AIRCRAFT - Battle of Britain Group Build (Jan 1st 2005 - May 31st 2005)

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Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:15 AM
I haven't got a "warm up" build per se... working on my Naval Aviation a/c, almost to the point where the build picks up speed... got the coclpit 80% done just have to splap the fuselage together and paint!
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:14 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison

Yeah Tom i did but this time it's definatly final unless..........................................nah it's final

BTW Tom you know that your'e expected to join the 2005 Aussie GB aswell, i think an Aussie bird would look good in your collectionThumbs Up [tup]


actually I was thinking about asking to join! I've seen a few a/c and a little history around them so I'll jump in... when I find my build I'll post on that BG thread if it's already going...

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 3:36 AM
Darren, thanks for that. I've got a bit of a late 30's fighter thing goping on at the moment, hence my I-16 and PZL P24G, and the 109 would fit that theme beautifully.

Think I'll just have to put that Hobbycraft 109 on my wish list.

I had a look at my Hasegawa Hurricane night fighter last night, looks like I'll be replacing the cockpit hood, wheels, decals & adding belts at the very least, and adding the wheel bay insert, as I'm not sure I can face cleaning up those ejector pin marks! Why couldn't they put those on the other side, you know the bit no one can see?

Karl

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Posted by tweety1 on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 2:26 AM
Nice CP pics Darren
Once again it shows how different these aircrafts are from one to the next.

The main colouring on the sidewalls is different to a few other pics I have.
When I find em, I'll post em up.

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Posted by darson on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 10:44 PM
In order to keep this thread alive until we start building I thought I might post a little update on where my warmup build is at.

The cockpit is done and assembled and has turned out pretty good. I've built it OOB except for the addition of the Ultracast seat with harness. The only other item I added was an oxygen hose made out of two different grades of fuse wire. It was easy to do and looks good, so I'll be using that technique again.

I was going to use the decal for the IP but once I applied it, I knew it wasn't going to look any good so off it came and the IP was dry bushed as usual.

If anybody else is doing a BoB warmup, post your progress and maybe some photos.

Also, for all those doing Bf 109 E’s here are a couple of superb cockpit shots I found during my reference hunting.

http://www.raf.mod.uk/bob1940/images/cockpit1091.jpg
http://www.raf.mod.uk/bob1940/images/cockpit1092.jpg

Cheers
Darren
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Posted by darson on Monday, November 15, 2004 5:21 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by KJ200

Darson, do ME 109Ds count? As these were stationed in Norway during the BoB, even if they didn't have the range to engage the RAF.

Just thought I would ask, I keep looking at that Hobbycraft 109D you see and the AM decals to go with it. Any excuse to buy another kit!!

Karl


Karl,

I have looked but I cannot find any reference to active Luftwaffe squadrons using the 109D while participating in the BoB, so I'm afraid they don't count.

I know what you mean about that Hobbycraft kit though, I am on a bit of an early 109 kick at the moment and would love to do the 109D in Condor Legion markings.

Cheers
Darren
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Posted by KJ200 on Monday, November 15, 2004 1:04 PM
Darson, do ME 109Ds count? As these were stationed in Norway during the BoB, even if they didn't have the range to engage the RAF.

Just thought I would ask, I keep looking at that Hobbycraft 109D you see and the AM decals to go with it. Any excuse to buy another kit!!

Karl

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Posted by darson on Monday, November 15, 2004 6:21 AM
Here is my list (to the best of my knowledge anyway) of the aircraft and the versions of them that operated in the Battle of Britain and who is building what. There are still plenty of more unusual aircraft waiting to be built if anybody is looking for a challenge.
As far as I can tell the F4F Martlet did not actually see combat during the battle, but 804 squadron FAA were equipped with them late in the battle so it's allowable.

If there are any changes or mods you would like made to this just let me know.

Cheers
Darren

RAF Fighter Command
Hawker Hurricane Mk.I, II - darson, rjkplasticmod, KJ200, nicodemus, Lucien Harpress, Aurora-7, lodni_k
Supermarine Spitfire Mk.Ia, Ib, II, IIa - darson, madmike, lodni_k
Bristol Beaufighter Mk.I
Fairey Fulmar Mk.I
Westland Lysander
Bristol Blenheim Mk.I
Boulton Paul Defiant Mk.I, II tweety1, nmayhew
F4F Martlet Mk.I - tho9900
Gloster Gladiator Mk.II

Luftwaffe
Heinkel He 111 H, H-2, 3, 4, P-2 - razordws
Heinkel He 59 C-2, D-1
Heinkel 115
Dornier Do 17 P, M, U, Z-1, 2, 3
Dornier Do 215 B
Dornier Do 18 D, G
Dornier Do 24
Messerschmitt Bf 109 E-1, 3, 4, 7, F-1 - j.s.harrison, rjkplasticmod, Cruzr, tweety1, jcsloureiro, lodni_k
Messerschmitt Bf 110 C-2, 4, 5, 6, D-0 - Cruzr
Junkers Ju 87 B, 1, 2, R - j.s.harrison, lodni_k
Junkers Ju 88 A-1, 5, C-5
Focke Wulf Fw 200 C
Arado Ar 96

Regia Aeronautica
Fiat Br20 M
Fiat Cr.42
Fiat G.50
Cant Z1007.BIS
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 15, 2004 4:27 AM
Yeah Tom i did but this time it's definatly final unless..........................................nah it's final

BTW Tom you know that your'e expected to join the 2005 Aussie GB aswell, i think an Aussie bird would look good in your collectionThumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, November 14, 2004 6:57 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison

This time it's final no more changes. Lol........Thumbs Up [tup]
Tanks mate...Jules.......


::scratching head:: didn't you say that last time? Big Smile [:D]

Those are always my last words when it comes to my build... ok this is it... I found my build... I'm making good progress on my USN Aviation build so should be in the clear for a Jan start... even might have time to get my dads two models out of the way....
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 14, 2004 2:10 AM
Darson iv'e had no luck in finding a Do17 in 1/48 and i don't yet have the skills to turn the Revell Do217 into a Do17 so my builds will be the same as before a 109E3 flown by Werner Molders and a Stuka from StG 77.......This time it's final no more changes. Lol........Thumbs Up [tup]
Tanks mate...Jules.......
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Posted by Cruzr on Saturday, November 13, 2004 6:23 PM
Well here's a list of BOB aircraft that i have. the only problem is that i don't know what some versions were flying at that time(mk.I/II or E-3/4/5 etc.) so i left those off the list. So if there someone who knows those details, or if i missed any please add.

Spitfire
Gloster Gladiator
Bristol Beaufighter
Hurricane
F4F Martlet
Boulton Paul Defiant
Bristol Blenheim
Bf 109
Ju 87 Stuka
JU88
Arado AR196
HE115
HE113
FW200
Do215
Do17
HE59
Do18
BF110
HE111
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Posted by darson on Saturday, November 13, 2004 5:19 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Cruzr

I'd like that list aswell if it's alright. The model shop screwed up my order Angry [:(!]so i now have a JU52 JU86 and a BF110.
DARSON: don't update me yet since the way things are going on my end god knows what i'll have for the build, i'll keep you posted


No problems Cruzr, I'll put a list together of what can and is being built and what is still available. There are plenty of knowledgeable people on the build who can help out and add to the list to make it complete. Also, even though most people have already done this, could you post a short note on what squadron/aircraft you are building? Once the list is completed I will post it back to page 1 of the build and keep it updated.

Cheers
Darren
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Posted by madmike on Saturday, November 13, 2004 12:00 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1


11th hour,
11th Day,
11th Month,
We Will Remember Them,

Lest We Forget............................


Sign - Ditto [#ditto] Tweety



...Jules...


Sign - Ditto [#ditto]

They shall not grow old, as we that are left grow old;
Age shall not weary them nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.


Lest we forget

I lost my Great Great Uncle in WWI. He was killed in 1915 at Gallipoli at the age of 16 serving with the 10th Light Horse.

ANZAC day and Rememberance day have a special meaning for me!

Mike
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei
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Posted by Cruzr on Friday, November 12, 2004 10:22 PM
QUOTE: [i]

Tankmaster... there's a lot of oddball planes left unclaimed if ya want something different... we'd gladly let ya know what is open or what planes flew then if ya want..


I'd like that list aswell if it's alright. The model shop screwed up my order Angry [:(!]so i now have a JU52 JU86 and a BF110.
DARSON: don't update me yet since the way things are going on my end god knows what i'll have for the build, i'll keep you posted
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Posted by tho9900 on Friday, November 12, 2004 7:39 PM
Jan is pefect... I should be through with my Naval Aviation spot by then, and be ready to go!

Sad to see ya go fighterguru.. stick around and see the progress if ya want!

Tankmaster... there's a lot of oddball planes left unclaimed if ya want something different... we'd gladly let ya know what is open or what planes flew then if ya want..
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by darson on Friday, November 12, 2004 3:15 PM
OK everybody Jan 1 2005 as a start date is a go.

Jules welcome back, I was wondering where you had got to.

Cheers
Darren
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 12, 2004 9:29 AM
Oh yeah Darson, Jan is fine for meThumbs Up [tup]i wanna start building too
Cheers Jules......
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 12, 2004 9:27 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1


11th hour,
11th Day,
11th Month,
We Will Remember Them,

Lest We Forget............................


Sign - Ditto [#ditto] Tweety



...Jules...
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Posted by KJ200 on Friday, November 12, 2004 5:06 AM
Jan is fine by me!

Karl

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Posted by tweety1 on Friday, November 12, 2004 3:43 AM
Jan works fine for me.
Have decided to tackle at MOST 2 GB at one time, keeps things easier.

Will finish Ol Guns in December, and start BoB, works really well!
--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???
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Posted by nmayhew on Friday, November 12, 2004 1:54 AM
jan is cool with me...Smile [:)]
Kind regards, Nicholas
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Posted by fighterguru on Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:50 PM
Hey Guys Im going to have to back out of this Iv got 2 group builds starting in January and I feel like three is just gonna kills me. Im going back to school in January and Its gonna be tuff getting in any build time. Thanks for leting me be a part of this for as long as I have.
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:06 PM
January is fine with me, as long as the finish date remains unchanged. I probably wont get started by then, but it does give a little more wiggle room.

Regards, Rick
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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Posted by razordws on Thursday, November 11, 2004 8:52 PM
January sounds good to me.

Dave

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Posted by madmike on Thursday, November 11, 2004 8:19 PM
Sounds OK. There is a couple of GB's I am part of on ARC that wind up about then.

I will vote on January

cheers

Mike
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei
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Posted by Cruzr on Thursday, November 11, 2004 7:56 PM
Jan Start date is fine with me.
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Posted by darson on Thursday, November 11, 2004 6:28 PM
ATTENTION PLEASE

Hi all,
I have been thinking about this for a while now and have decided I need to put something to a vote.

How do you all feel about moving the start date for the build from Feb 1 to Jan 1 2005 (the end date will remain the same)?

My original intent was to leave Jan aside as I figured that a lot of people would be away on holiday’s etc. But I see a lot of multiple builds waiting to start a lot of interest in the GB and dammit I want to start building.

Anyway it's up to you, the members of this Group Build just post a response in this thread or send me an e-mail letting me which way you want to jump. Leave the dates 'as is' or move the start to Jan 1.

Thanks
Darren
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Posted by madmike on Thursday, November 11, 2004 6:16 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by darson

QUOTE: Originally posted by madmike

I was thinking, it might be time to dust off my Airfix 1:72 Anson or Arado Ar196. But I may to going to be tackling too much with the Monogram 1:48 Spit and one of the Airfix kits.

All will require a fair degree of elbow grease!

opinions?

cheers

Mike



Mike, It's up to you, but what you could do if finish the Spitfire, see how you feel and then put yourself down for the Arado or Anson if you want too. Your choice.

Cheers
Darren


Darren

Yep, my thoughts exactly. I think one nominated at a time is the best way. I am getting keen to build 1940 era again!

cheers

Mike
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:43 AM
ahh. curses. No matter. It is now an excuse to get more model kits of luftwaffe things.Big Smile [:D]
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