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AIRCRAFT - Battle of Britain Group Build (Jan 1st 2005 - May 31st 2005)

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Posted by osher on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 2:46 AM
Thanks guys, I'll give it a shot! At least the second coat went on really nicely, and the blotches of the first coat (caused by my not stirring enough) have blended in.

The way I used the kitchen roll, was to tear of a strip, and make it into a ball, which I pushed into the gaps. Oh well, I've been learning a lot recently!
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Posted by taxtp on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 6:28 AM
Hi Osher,
I've never had the problem you experienced, so my advice may not help, but I hope it does..
I usually use cut (not tear) small pieces of tissue and stuff these into the bay. Then I wet the tissue until it is quite damp but not soaked by dipping my finger in water then touching the drip to the tissue. Capillary action does the rest. Once you've sprayed the first coat, it tends to bind the tissue together and you don't need to re-wet it for subsequent colours or coats.

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 12:15 PM
Ditto on tony's method... and if it dries before you can take it out, just a few drops of water rebinds it together... any left over bits get taken out with a damp Qtip...
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by taxtp on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 8:12 PM
Despite earlier promises to myself to not use Tamiya decals ever again, I've found myself doing it again, as the aftermarket sheet I was going to use had some differences that meant I couldn't use them.
The main problems I have with Tamiya decals are bubbles and silvering, which are both symptons of air being trapped under the decal, I think. They are also thick and tend to obscure Tamiya's exceptional panel lines underneath.
For the first time, I'm using Johnson's Supershine (our Future equivalent) as the decal solving/setting agent.
So far I've got 75% of the decals on, some minor bubbles which I'll fix in one cross, but no silvering, the bane of my life. I should add that I'm trimming as much decal film as I can.
I'm really happy with the way it's gone so far, but now I arrive at the moment of truth.
I've got to put the kill markings, which are numerous, so I can't trim around them, on the rudder. The rudder is not a completely smooth surface, having a panelled effect, and some mottled paintwork over it already. I've also got to do the wing walk markings, which always seem to want to silver badly.
If I pork it up, I can't get the kill decals from aftermarket, as they are specific to this aircraft.
Hopefully my new technique will go Ok, but this will really test it.

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 8:53 PM
Tony - I've used future to sit decals down with good results.... mostly on smaller decals like instrument panels and such, but it works like a charm! good luck to you, if you soak them in supershine to get them to release from the backing (instead of water) then the fuselage should be primed (and cured) with supershine as well... then when you put them on brush supershine over them making sure you go past the edges of the decal they should go down fine...
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by madmike on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 2:04 AM
Well the Doc has given me the week off as I have caught a nasty bug floating around the office. One can only rest so much, so I am going to get elbows deep into my Spitfire.

A question to all those blokes who have used the Eduard Camo masks. Did you mask the whole plane at once or follow the staging plan as suggested by Eduard? The masks look excellent.

The sky undersides are on and I have masked up ready for the dark earth. I even noticed that Eduard even include ventral masking for the demarcation line between sky and upper camo.

cheers

Mike
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 5:46 AM
Mike sorry mate i've never used the Eduard masks before i've always cut my own, but even with my own i always paint the wings first and then do the fueselage in another painting session............

Hey Osher have you ever considered using blue tac, it can be a bit of a chore to get it all off but thats what i use..............
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 5:48 AM
Oh yeah Tweets thats the last time i look at one of my kits in the sunlight, nah i'm glad i saw the little spits and the model looks that much better with them goneThumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by osher on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 7:20 AM
Thanks guys! On this model there are no more bits to be filled in for painting (the canopy will be masked with, er, something (either maskol or masking tape) and the gun taped over). Next time I do need to fill something I'll try out the techniques you've suggested.
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Posted by jboutin on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:36 AM
Well, little prgress on the Hurricane, I put the dullcoat on it last night. I thought I'd be done by now but I've been dealing with the aftrmath of a little fender bender from last week.Angry [:(!]

Once I get my pastels on for weathering, then I'll just have re apply the dullcoat, put on the canopy and gunsight, clear bits, radio wire and voila, one RCAF 1 Sqdn Hurricane.Big Smile [:D]
JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 -
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:00 AM
Sounds great Jay. Looking forward to seeing the finished bird.

Regards, Rick
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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Posted by razordws on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 11:16 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jboutin

...but I've been dealing with the aftrmath of a little fender bender from last week.Angry [:(!]


Hope it didn't invovle your bike and that no one was hurt. Those Calgary driversDisapprove [V]!!!

Dave

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Posted by jboutin on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 11:35 AM
NO, but I had my bicycle in the trunk! I was on my way to a bike shop to get the bottom bracket cartridge removed (it was rusted in and I couldn't remove it with my own tools). I rear-ended a guy. Totally my fault. I was so mad (at myself), now I have to deal with insurance. The only consolation was that it wasn't with my wifes car, I drive an old beater of a ford taurus with 250k and rust and other dents and stuff. Sad [:(] the thing is too old and ugly to replace, I'll probably get it written off and then my wife and I will be forced to get a new car earlier than expected, we were thinking of getting a new one at the end of summer, oh well. Life happens!

On another note, I'm glad I hit the guy I did hit as he was rather cool about it and wasn't very upset. Just a few days later, my wife and were at a stop light and someone across the intersection was rear eneded and the two guys got out and were yelling and screming at each other, then they started throwing punches and stuff, drivers in some of the other cars around had to get out and pull them off each other! Shock [:O] I couldn't believe it, it was unreal like something you see in the police videos from 'COPS' or something like that. Sheesh, road rage, poeple need to mellow out a bit. Sorry to carry on like this guys. Ashamed [*^_^*] Back to things that really matter - modeling!
JAY - fighting evil since 2:15pm, July 8,1976 -
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Posted by taxtp on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 4:59 PM
Major decals are all done, and no silvering. Now there's about 4000 stencils to put on.

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 7:28 PM
Looking great Tony. Keep up the excellent work.

Regards, Rick
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 7:31 PM
Tony - ya gotta love those stencils!!! Looking good!
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by tweety1 on Thursday, May 19, 2005 2:36 AM
EXCELLENT work Tony!!!Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]
--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???
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Posted by osher on Thursday, May 19, 2005 8:00 AM
Looking good (and quick!) Tony
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 19, 2005 5:54 PM
Great looking build, Tony! - Calvin
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:14 PM
BUMP
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:53 PM
Jules, your Bump is pretty good, but how's your Grind ?

Kremps wants to know !! Big Smile [:D]

Regards, Rick
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:48 PM
Haha. You're pretty funny for an old fogey Rick.Big Smile [:D]Tongue [:P]Wink [;)]
-Tanky Welcome to the United States of America, a subsidiary of Exxon Mobil Corporation, in partnership with Halliburton. Security for your constitutional rights provided by Blackwater International.
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, May 19, 2005 9:52 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Tankmaster7

Haha. You're pretty funny for an old fogey Rick.Big Smile [:D]Tongue [:P]Wink [;)]


Who you calling an old fogey you young whimper snapper ? I'm old enough to be your Grandpa, so have some respect for your elders. Just for that, I won't let Kremps give you your warm milk & tuck you in tonight.

Regards, Rick
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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Posted by KJ200 on Friday, May 20, 2005 2:08 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod

QUOTE: Originally posted by Tankmaster7

Haha. You're pretty funny for an old fogey Rick.Big Smile [:D]Tongue [:P]Wink [;)]


Who you calling an old fogey you young whimper snapper ? I'm old enough to be your Grandpa, so have some respect for your elders. Just for that, I won't let Kremps give you your warm milk & tuck you in tonight.

Regards, Rick


That's not a punishment, that's a pardon!

Jay Hope you get your car situation sorted.

Tony Great work on the 1098. I'm assuming it's 1/72. or you've got huge hands!?

Progress Update

Hurricane now has wheels, back and front. Need to sort out the tail wheel as mine is sticking out too far at the moment, making it look more like a Sea Hurricane!

Sudenly realised I can't find the radio mast or pitot tube, I know I painted them, but now I can't find them anywhere. So looks like I might be making new onesBanged Head [banghead]

Apart from that, just awaiting the new vac form canopy. Will post pics at the weekend.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 20, 2005 8:27 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod

Jules, your Bump is pretty good, but how's your Grind ?

Kremps wants to know !! Big Smile [:D]

Regards, Rick

Ok now i'm starting to get worriedShock [:O] I think my grind is still ok but just tell Kremps that i've got a broken leg or something will yaWink [;)] one can never be to vigilent around the old girlThumbs Up [tup]
Oh and BTW Rick you do realise that if Tanky misses his warm milk he'll be up half the night keeping the rest of the ward up banging his rattle against his cage err i mean cotTongue [:P]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 20, 2005 8:31 AM
You see with Kremps in my head again i forgot to say what i came here to say in the first place............

Progress Report all the pastel weathering is on and all i have to do is the final assembly and the last coat of flat, should be finished the emil in 2 daysThumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Friday, May 20, 2005 9:47 AM
Karl, Jules. Looking forward to seeing the finished builds.

BTW, Tanky has outgrown the need for a rattle. Now if we could just do something about the thumb sucking thing Big Smile [:D].

Regards, Rick
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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Posted by taxtp on Saturday, May 21, 2005 6:03 AM
Progress update:
All the decas are on the 109 now. Waiting a day or so before I apply 'the wash'.
It is 1/48, and you know what they say about big hands....
Cheers

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, May 21, 2005 6:32 AM
Tony - looking forward to seeing it! I know the feeling with the big hand thing... PE and my hands don't mix well in some circumstances...
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by darson on Saturday, May 21, 2005 9:09 AM
Hi all, its 11:57pm on Saturday night and I thought I had better do some posting to let people know I'm still alive.

Tony, I went down to see Chris this morning after dropping my oldest daughter off at ballet, I told him that he'd been discussed on the web and he had a sort of "oh yeah, OK what was said" type attitude. It only once your name was mentioned that he relaxed a little. Your 109 looks really nice BTW, I am looking forward to seeing some more pics.

JB sorry to hear about your car problems mate, that sort of thing always seems to happen at the most (financially) inconvenient times. I'm glad no one was hurt though.

Tom, PE and my hands don't mix in most circumstances. I always end up sacrificing a few bits to the PE gods regardless of how careful I try to be.

Cheers
Darren
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