All Subjects - Aussie Group Build 2005

Mike i was thinking all subjects from WW1 to present.....
I think considering it's an Anzac GB it must be anything that served within the Australian and New Zealand armed forces from that timeframe

BTW i no one has any objections i was thinking that the 2nd badge is the one to use.....
Like Tweety1 said it's befitting
Cheers Jules......

yes, that would work for me!

I have a number of subjects I could do. Just need to pick one now

cheers

Mike

Well, I'm not really up to date with Aus and NZ aircraft and armour (no shock there), so if anyone could give me some pointers, I was kinda thinking I might give some armour a go, only ever made 2 tanks and a multitude of a/c, but what do we/they use?

I'm aware of the leopard tank, and thats about as far as my armour knowledge goes.
Is there anything NZ used that Aus didn't?

I'm not really up on it either Tweety but i already have my subject, It's a Chevy truck operated by the Kiwi's in North Africa as a part of the LRDG and it even has a Kwi bird decal on the front of the bonnet........
I'll post up a pic of it shortly................Jules..........

boy, you Aussies are gonna keep this South Texas boy busy! First mention of a N. Africa build which immediately caught my eye (found a Fi.56 this weekend I might use for my very first dio ever built just for that GB) now an Anzac build... and I have been doing my homework on aircraft and might be willing to have a go at that one if possible...

on a side note I just picked up a copy of "Pacific Fighters" from Ubisoft... a WWII Combat Flight Sim (same people who did the IL-2 Sturmovik series) and I was pleasantly surpised to see both the RAF and the RAAF included as Air forces you could fly for... right now I am still in a Beaufighter as it is early in the war... but on the box or in the opening screens they showed a beautiful shot of a B-25 with RAAF markings coming in low over a mountain... this company seems to go for more of a historical aspect as well as the commercial one... there's about 8 different Af's you can fly for... RAF, RAAF, IJN, IJA, USN, USMC and some others I cant remember now.,.. those are the only pilots I have started so far... it's worth a peek if you are into flight sims!

Yeah we'll keep you churning them out Tom
Btw your flight sim game sounds pretty cool

Jules, Badge 2 works for me also.

Mike, I think the models should be based on military subjects that were used by either the Australian or New Zealand forces since WW1 as this was when the ANZAC was created.

Tweety, Im not sure what the New Zealanders used in the way of armour during WW2, but the aussies used Matildas, Grants, M3 Stuarts plus a few captured Italian tanks in the desert.

AH YES!!!!

Have to go back through the Aussie forum and find that pic of the Italian tanks that someone posted.

Hmmm, might have found my topic

A good book to get is Australians at War isbn no186503865-2, it's 365 pages of information going back to the Boer War and is available from the Warehouse for $20.00
............Jules.............

Had a bit of a look around for New Zealand armour in WWII and they pretty much used Valentines, Stuarts and Universal (Bren) Carriers until about half way through the war when the Kiwi's left Africa for Italy. From the little that I found, from then on they used the Sherman III, Sherman Firefly IC, Sherman Firefly VC, Sherman M4A3, etc, etc.

There seems to be quite a few really good reference pics available on the web, so if you're planning on doing a mid/late war Kiwi tank you shouldn't have too many problems.

For myself, at this stage I was thinking of either a Grant or Matilda for Nth African build and ANZAC builds with maybe a Kittyhawk thrown in for good measure for one of them.

Cheers
Darren

Hey Darson i have both the Matilda and the Stuart honey and i can tell you the honey is a real honey of a kit

Tweety here's the little Italian tank, it's in the book i mentioned in my previous post


Oh yeah this is the 100th post

AHA, 101!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nup, not as special as 100...............................

Jules, stop stealin' all the big post numbers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sooooooo, what kind of a tank is that anyways???

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1 AHA, 101!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nup, not as special as 100............................... Jules, stop stealin' all the big post numbers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sooooooo, what kind of a tank is that anyways???

Sorry Tweets, I'ts just a matter of timing

Ahhh the Tank if you could call it that......

M.11/39
weight - 11 ton
armour- 30mm
range- 200 km
max speed-33kmh
armament- 1 37mm main, secondary 2 8mm MG

The captured tanks were used by the divisional cavalry 6th Australian Division..
Cheers Jules......

Hmmm, what make of tank was it Jules?

Looks alot like a Vickers to me.

Count me in for the ANZAC build ... Personally, I'll be using the GB as a good excuse to continue my personal collection of RNZAF aircraft. Got a few on the shelf waiting for such an excuse. I will keep an eye on this GB as it progresses ... Good luck guys

Paul you are quite welcome to join in the ANZAC build. At present time the ANZAC Group Build is only at a discussion and planning stage. Keep your eyes open in both this and the Aussie modellers thread for future details. Any input you have into this build will most welcome.

Cossack glad you are joining us for the Anzac GB, kick off or sprue off is Anzac day 05

Tweety yeah it does look a little bit like a Vickers but it's an all Italian tank made by
Carro Armato Fiat-Ansaldo, quite a mouthfull eh....

This one is available from Pacific Coast Models for a whopping $103:95 USD
so you may want to check and see if Italeria make one

But then again we all know how much you love these MultiMedia kits.....

OH yeah i forgot to mention PCM only has one left........
Cheers Jules........

That might be going a tad over my budget.

I'll keep looking me thinks.

That is heading up pricewise with the Fisher Models 1:32 Panther and Cougar. I want each, but I know I will never get them as they are way out of my price range!

BTW, they are AU$250 including postage!

cheers

Mike

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1 That might be going a tad over my budget. I'll keep looking me thinks.

sorry brother, I don't even think cooking for the missus, nor cleaning and puttin the young ones to bed early will get you that one... I'll keep thinking see if I can get an angle for ya... it would have to be something along the lines of a new car I think...

---edit---

read: new car for HER

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900 QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1 That might be going a tad over my budget. I'll keep looking me thinks. sorry brother, I don't even think cooking for the missus, nor cleaning and puttin the young ones to bed early will get you that one... I'll keep thinking see if I can get an angle for ya... it would have to be something along the lines of a new car I think... ---edit--- read: new car for HER

New car might do it, but would have to have a wireless in it.
Actually she's ben pretty good lately, got me a bit scared.

I'll bet she's gonna hit me with something massive for her Christmas order.

I dropped the hint I wanted the Defiant for Christmas, so she did a search on the net and said $25 bucks for a kit was ok.
I pointed out to her I wanted the 1/48 CA kit, she searched again, looked at me and raised 1 eyebrow.

I'm probably getting a paintbrush, and thats it.

A paintbrush eh, you should think yourself lucky with that, my missus would never buy me anything to do with models, she reckons i spend enough on em myself......

While i have photobucket up i might as well show you blokes what i'm planning on building for the Anzac GB........
Note the funny lookin flightless bird on the bonnet

What bird?

QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison While i have photobucket up i might as well show you blokes what i'm planning on building for the Anzac GB........ Note the funny lookin flightless bird on the bonnet

a penguin??? I though they lived in the snow, wouldn't they get hot in the desert???

looks good Jules, still haven't quite got my build for that yet but have plenty of time to think about it.. I have enough on my plate right now so it can wait...

QUOTE: Originally posted by South Aussie Jules, Badge 2 works for me also. Mike, I think the models should be based on military subjects that were used by either the Australian or New Zealand forces since WW1 as this was when the ANZAC was created. Tweety, Im not sure what the New Zealanders used in the way of armour during WW2, but the aussies used Matildas, Grants, M3 Stuarts plus a few captured Italian tanks in the desert.

The Matilda's were altered here and are fairly different to those in the Tamiya Kit, especially the tracks. We used them mainly in the Pacific and after the war. The M3A5 Grant's, too were not as per the standard Tamiya Kit.

Here are 2 great sites to visit for Armour info:
http://www.thunderandsteel.co.uk/index.html
http://www.mheaust.com.au/Aust/Austindex.htm

Are you limiting the Group Build to combat used? or just used by the Aussie or Kiwi armies? If you want to widen the scope to any vehicle used, you have a huge variety to choose from. Ie, for the Aussies alaone:
Vickers Medium Mk 11
Vickers Light Mk V1
Churchill Mk VII (31 obtained) and Mk VIII 95 mm howitzer (15 obtained, 2 of which had the crocodile flame throwers)
LVT 4 Buffalo
LVT(A) 4 Alligator
DUKW
M3A1 White Scout Car
Staghound (available as a resin Kit)
Canadian Lynx Scout Car
Ford Dingo (Not the ' Daimler Dingo" as per Tamiya kit)
Ferret Scout cars
Saracan Armoured cars
Saladin Armoured Car
M113 series vehicles
Centurian Mk 5
M548A1 Tracked carriers (AFV Club do a US version which can be used)
Land Rovers
Leopard AS1 (1A1)

and the vehicles obtained for trial and evaluation, such as:
Crusader Mk 1
Churchill Mk's IV, V,VI
M4, M4 composite hull and M4A2 Sherman
M24 Chaffee
Cromwell Mk 1
Covenantor Bridge Layer
LAV 25
Fiat 6614 APC
FV 432
M114A1CRV
Scorpion Tank
M155 Sheridan
M60A1 Tanks

and of course, the M1A1 Abrams.

Either bage works well Julian.

Wow, thanks for the listing Peter.

Thankfully your not as lazy as I am.
I started looking, then just didn't have the drive to continue.

Thanks heaps.

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1 Wow, thanks for the listing Peter. Thankfully your not as lazy as I am. I started looking, then just didn't have the drive to continue. Thanks heaps.

lol! we're a lazy lot aren't we? I was thinking the same thing!

Speaking of Cows......wrong GB.......

AHA....................BUMP!!!!!!!.....................