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                        Battle of Midway Aircraft Group Build

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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, August 27, 2005 7:35 PM
                        Jules --- how long can you go on using the same tired excuse??? the batteries are charging???? Wink [;)] just kidding, I got caught in the same problem not too long ago...

                        I agree on the engines not being seen, but for me I continue to try to get the most out of them because like the cockpit, *I* know what they look like on the inside... Nevermind the exteriors of mine are only slowly getting better, the parts you can't see look fabulous!! Wink [;)]

                        I think I am going to scratch the Zero I started for this build and do another one... as this seems to be an endless GB we have plenty of time.. I might get the Hasegawa or the Tamiya 1/32 one for the next one... I saw one on sale in squadrons monthly sale paper today...
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, August 27, 2005 7:38 PM
                        oh... and I agree on the amount of new GB's lately...... "WWII anything group build" or "Build an old aircraft GB" is kinda vague to me... I am about to drop a couple I got into as I am learning that building on my own is fun too.. I might just stick to building with the usual suspects...
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 27, 2005 8:33 PM
                        Amen Tom, I'll be sticking with the "Usual Suspects" as well, I think the Battle of Germany GB and the Battle of the Atlantic GB as well as Grumman cats Gb and Midway will be it for me in 2006, the other Gb's seem a little Vague or just plain silly like The GB badge GB where you glue 2 pieces of plastic together and get a badge, to me that seems to defeat the purpose of actually being in a Gb because your not sharing a build with fellow members which IMHO is the reason for participating in a group build......I wonder what "Kremps" would think..........Anyway just myMy 2 cents [2c]
                        BTW seein as how Midway will be going on through 2006 and considering Pingy is starting another build i think i'll finish the AM Avenger for this build as well as the ZeroThumbs Up [tup]

                        Edit::::::::::::::::forgot forward slash in bold.............
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                        razordws
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                          September 2004
                        • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
                        Posted by razordws on Saturday, August 27, 2005 8:51 PM
                        Wot... This GB continuing on into 2006? Must have missed something? Confused [%-)]

                        I'll have to see if I can sneak another build in here somewhere but with the Canadian GB and three lined up for the Battle for Germany it'l be tough.

                        So... your batteries charged up yet Jules?

                        Dave

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                        pingtang
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                          April 2003
                        • From: NSW, Australia
                        Posted by pingtang on Saturday, August 27, 2005 9:00 PM
                        I agree on the too many GB's thing lads. There are too many people out there just trying to start GB's for the sake of it. I reckon alot of them buy a kit and think "I'll start a GB for my kit". I like the builds like this one that centre around a particular battle or aircraft type. But the WW2 aircraft GB and WW2 armor GB are just silly IMO. Half of the GB ideas that are put up here don't even get any people in, they just push the "good" builds onto lower pages.My 2 cents [2c]

                        I'm just about finished my King Tiger (just have to find that part that I lost so I can finish it), so I might make a start on the Devastator soon. I've done a fair bit of the re-scribing on the right fuselage.
                        -Daniel
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                        PanzerWulff
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                          November 2004
                        • From: Salisbury Massachucetts USA
                        Posted by PanzerWulff on Saturday, August 27, 2005 10:34 PM
                        i like this gb the japanese aircraft and the A-10 build im in but i guess my mirror / mirror idea didn't go over well i only have 2 positive joins an 2 possibles so i guess it's one of the ones that should go to the wayside Sad [:(] I like the what if format but i guess it's not all that popular . on a higher note my buffalo is all buttoned up and it didn't take much cleanup on the seams i'll be going to paint soon once i have what i need masked ready
                        ACE??? you were NEVER an ace AN ace HOLE maybe! (Lister to Rimmer on BBC's RED DWARF) Chris"Hey GRAVITY still works"Gray
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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, August 28, 2005 8:47 AM
                        Panzer - actually yours was original, I really thought of what would the Wildcat look like in IJN green with a blueblack cowl when I saw your GB, the Thunderbolt would be even better... it would remind me somewhat of a Frank or something I think...... I wouldn't give up... it took me about a month to get more than just the usual slobs suspects into this one.. I think all of us are getting into the hard parts of several GB's right now and don't have the energy to post much anywhere else...

                        That said, a build like this is unusual, most people want a firm end date for the build but this one seems to be flowing along and still attracting the occasional new person. I imagine at some point it will end... I just hate to because it seems like most of us here take a n inkling to the type of aircraft we are doing here.
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        pingtang
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                          April 2003
                        • From: NSW, Australia
                        Posted by pingtang on Sunday, August 28, 2005 9:22 AM
                        I thought the Mirror/mirror GB was a good idea too. I think there are just too many GB's on this forum now. I don't know about other people, but alot of the time I just look through the pages for the builds I'm interested in and don't even notice the rest. Makes it difficult for new builds to get going, but it doesn't mean it's a bad idea. Just keep bumping the build back up every now and then, and you might get a few more in.

                        Tom I thought this build was dead a while ago, but it just keeps coming back. Good thing too, I like the subject matter of this GB, and the company makes it even more enjoyable. By the time we're finished, I plan to have built every aircraft flown by the US for this GB. Wink [;)]
                        -Daniel
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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, August 28, 2005 10:39 AM
                        Right Daniel - then we start on the Japanese ones.. Wink [;)]
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 28, 2005 10:26 PM
                        Yeah i didn't have the Mirror/mirror GB in mind when i mentioned the Gb thing in my last post, there was a similar Gb about a year ago that attracted a lot of members but like Daniel i just look at the Gb's i'm in and skip the rest cause i simply don't have time to build anything for other GB'sThumbs Up [tup]
                        AS far as this one being a neverending Gb i might have to build that Aussie P-40N late next yearThumbs Up [tup]
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                        pingtang
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                          April 2003
                        • From: NSW, Australia
                        Posted by pingtang on Sunday, August 28, 2005 11:04 PM
                        I've got two of those things on the bench at the moment Jules. One is painted and decalled and I'm just working on putting a resin cockpit in the Mauve kit. I'll catch that one up to the other and finish them at the same time.

                        Last night, I marked all the panel lines I have to re-scribe. Turns out there are alot more panel lines on the Monogram kit than were on the real aircraft. Works out well for me, less re-scribing.Party [party]

                        Tom - This thing will keep on going forever if I start the Japanese aircraft too. After that, I'll do all the carriers, battleships and to finish it off, a scale model of Midway island......Wink [;)]
                        -Daniel
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 28, 2005 11:15 PM
                        Make sure you post up some pics of "Black Magic" for me to see will ya Pingy
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                        pingtang
                        • Member since
                          April 2003
                        • From: NSW, Australia
                        Posted by pingtang on Monday, August 29, 2005 1:04 AM
                        Yeah, I'll make sure I do that mate. I've got "Cleopatra III" flown by Geoff Atherton on the go too, so I'll post it up too.
                        -Daniel
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 29, 2005 4:41 AM
                        Cool Daniel between the 2 of us we almost have a sectionThumbs Up [tup] BTW I have decals for "Waddy's" machine............
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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Monday, August 29, 2005 6:25 PM
                        Daniel - don't forget once you're done with your mock up of Midway you could also do one of the Aleutians and the Dutch East Indies as well... those were both battles affecting Midway in one way or another... oh and while you're at it maybe one of Japan too...
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        bobbaily
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                          November 2003
                        • From: Nashville, TN area
                        Posted by bobbaily on Monday, August 29, 2005 7:51 PM
                        First attempt at an 'artist oil wash'-I'm happy with it. Definatly easier to work with than the acrylic wash I usually do.

                        Bob

                         

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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Monday, August 29, 2005 9:17 PM
                        Bob - good job!!! you might try a rag with a touch of turpatine (turpentine substitute) It will get some of the streaks off, but I agree... it looks good!! I like the way the oils blend so well....
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        PanzerWulff
                        • Member since
                          November 2004
                        • From: Salisbury Massachucetts USA
                        Posted by PanzerWulff on Monday, August 29, 2005 9:30 PM
                        anyone notice that alot of late 30's and early 40's navy and marine fighters have windows on their bellies even the early corsairs had em i guess it was for observation purposes or to give a better view of what may be blocked out by the wing?
                        ACE??? you were NEVER an ace AN ace HOLE maybe! (Lister to Rimmer on BBC's RED DWARF) Chris"Hey GRAVITY still works"Gray
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 4:47 AM
                        Looking good Bob, the wash came out real niceThumbs Up [tup] and i can see the FSM mag in the background, been reading up on washes eh.............
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                        bobbaily
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                          November 2003
                        • From: Nashville, TN area
                        Posted by bobbaily on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:21 AM
                        Tom & Jules-thanks. Will probably follow your advise and go over it with a lightly soaked rag this pm. My understanding is that the oil wash is very slow drying.

                        Jules-yes, that was a FSM in the background-oil wash on a Tiger Tank. Inspiring me to do a piece of armor for the Battle for Germany GB-no canopy to mask!

                        Bob

                         

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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 6:32 AM
                        Ah yes Bob no canopy to mask but about a million road wheels to paintEvil [}:)]
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                        bobbaily
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                        • From: Nashville, TN area
                        Posted by bobbaily on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 7:00 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison

                        Ah yes Bob no canopy to mask but about a million road wheels to paintEvil [}:)]


                        Oh yeah...how soon we forget......Black Eye [B)]

                        I kinda remember reading that one of the newer kits (Dragon maybe?) had seperate parts-i.e., wheel & hub. Maybe one of the armor experts can help here.

                        Let me see......U-boats have no canopy or road wheels....yeah, that's the ticket! Big Smile [:D]

                        Bob

                         

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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 7:09 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by bobbaily

                        QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison

                        Ah yes Bob no canopy to mask but about a million road wheels to paintEvil [}:)]


                        Oh yeah...how soon we forget......Black Eye [B)]

                        I kinda remember reading that one of the newer kits (Dragon maybe?) had seperate parts-i.e., wheel & hub. Maybe one of the armor experts can help here.

                        Let me see......U-boats have no canopy or road wheels....yeah, that's the ticket! Big Smile [:D]

                        Bob, mate your just gonna have to face it, we are in a no win situationSad [:(]WWII A/C have canopies to mask, Armour has road wheels, WWI A/C have rigging and U-Boats have a whole heap of Holes in the hull that need to be opened, i spent about 4 hours opening up the drain holes in my 1/72 revell U-Boat.........
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                        bobbaily
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                        • From: Nashville, TN area
                        Posted by bobbaily on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 7:23 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison

                        QUOTE: Originally posted by bobbaily

                        QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison

                        Ah yes Bob no canopy to mask but about a million road wheels to paintEvil [}:)]


                        Oh yeah...how soon we forget......Black Eye [B)]

                        I kinda remember reading that one of the newer kits (Dragon maybe?) had seperate parts-i.e., wheel & hub. Maybe one of the armor experts can help here.

                        Let me see......U-boats have no canopy or road wheels....yeah, that's the ticket! Big Smile [:D]

                        Bob, mate your just gonna have to face it, we are in a no win situationSad [:(]WWII A/C have canopies to mask, Armour has road wheels, WWI A/C have rigging and U-Boats have a whole heap of Holes in the hull that need to be opened, i spent about 4 hours opening up the drain holes in my 1/72 revell U-Boat.........


                        Sad [:(] sigh.....you are absolutlly right my friend......guess I'll just cut my losses and practice my canopy masking....and the occasional road wheel painting session.....Wink [;)]

                        Bob

                         

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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 7:47 PM
                        Bob To be honest with you i've started using Canopy masks for all but the simplest canopies, It's not that i can't mask them, I just hate doing it...........
                        Sigh [sigh] Remember the days when we built them in a couple of days, not worried about filling and sanding seams or canopy masking..........
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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 9:17 PM
                        oh you bunch of weenies!!! you all need to suck it up and get out your roll of Tamiya tape and start masking like a man!! Wink [;)]

                        Some call it a psychosis but I actually enjoy masking canopies... it gets relaxing to get in that intent on something... of course that Ju-87 canopy was a bit of a challenge but it came out in the end!!!

                        ::shaking head:: and here I thought you guys were hard core...

                        (Jules: don't tell anyone but I used precut masks on my SBD... and liked them! I'm just too lazy to order a set for every build, these came in the box so I was just curious and tried them...
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 1, 2005 4:06 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900

                        Some call it a psychosis but I actually enjoy masking canopies...

                        Hmmmm I think it's time to give you know who a call again TomWink [;)]

                        BTW I've made some progress................
                        The pit is all done and later i'm gonna give it a coat of flat clear followed by some little drops of future on the instuments tonight when the little Devils errr little Angel [angel]Kids are in bed.............After that i'm gonna join the fues halves togetherThumbs Up [tup]
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                        bobbaily
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                        Posted by bobbaily on Thursday, September 1, 2005 7:11 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900

                        oh you bunch of weenies!!! you all need to suck it up and get out your roll of Tamiya tape and start masking like a man!! Wink [;)]

                        Some call it a psychosis but I actually enjoy masking canopies... it gets relaxing to get in that intent on something... of course that Ju-87 canopy was a bit of a challenge but it came out in the end!!!

                        ::shaking head:: and here I thought you guys were hard core...

                        (Jules: don't tell anyone but I used precut masks on my SBD... and liked them! I'm just too lazy to order a set for every build, these came in the box so I was just curious and tried them...


                        Quilty as charged.......normally, masking the canopy isn't an issue. Well, not much of one anyway.... However, with the Accurate Min. F-6A, the frames are very shallow to non-existant. Then the Eduard masks were lacking adhesive properties. However, the thought of using the mask template as a guide to cut tape came to mind (and someone mentioned it-not sure which came first...Wink [;)]). Then someone mentioned BMF, which may work even better. That and I'm thinking of testing the address labels that one runs thru a printer. The canopy for the Tamiya Wildcat should be a piece of cake though....just a matter of working it into the schedule..... The planned four day weekend has been pared back to a three day weekend....Dead [xx(]

                        Bob

                         

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                        tho9900
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                        Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, September 1, 2005 7:21 AM
                        Bob - you should have no prob at all with that wildcat canopy, well defined frames and mostly straight lines.. Good luck!!
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        tho9900
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                        Posted by tho9900 on Friday, September 2, 2005 7:42 PM
                        wont be able to get on much until later guys. I am playing host to my in-laws from New Orleans... will try to post some maybe Sunday...
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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